UKMT Winterval 2023/24 - Zero-Tolerance Zones in Hotpot Areas

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bessantj: Jul 27, 2004

kecske posted:

its (allegedly) about perceived unfair advantage, although nobody ever gave a hot gay gently caress that michael phelps was racking up the golds with more cheat code advantages than anyone. Including but not limited to having a body that was observed to produce only half as much lactic acid as any peer athletes, massively reducing fatigue and recovery times in comparison.

Unless you're Caster Semenya then they care about finding a way to stop your unfair advantage.

NotJustANumber99 posted:

I don't think sports are pointless and I do value competition but I think worrying about transpeople in sports is like at the figure this out later end of the scale due to the numbers involved suggested earlier.

And by figure it out later I mean once you've figured out to respect people for who and what they identify as, cos probably once you've done that, the sporting rulebook edits are a much less difficult task.

Yeah I think there are bigger things we need to look at as well and, remembering I am a cis male, I wouldn't complain if they decided to shelve trans women's involvement in women's sports until they sorted those issues out.

Ms Adequate posted:

It's an effective wedge issue because it feels like it makes sense, and you can twist it so you feel like it's not a contradiction to say you support trans people but this is a special area that needs special consideration. Without knowing some of the effects of things like HRT it's understandable that some people would think "Trans women have an advantage because of their bone structure/male muscles/etc" and not realize that things are far more complex than that.

It's depressing that it has been blown up into such a large issue as if it dominates all trans discourse.

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Convex: Aug 19, 2010

fuctifino posted:

The govt have rolled back plans to raise the salary threshold for foreign dependants

edit: oh it's still going up to �29k though, which is ridiculous

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# ? Dec 21, 2023 21:33

Doctor_Fruitbat: Jun 2, 2013

Not only does Michael Phelps get a pass, but inversely female athletes have always been punished for excellence, such as the creation of female leagues allowing vastly more funds to be siphoned to male leagues, or women just being banned from competing for their own natural advantages: https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2021/07/two-cis-black-women-banned-olympics-natural-testosterone-levels/

There's a much wider conversation on sex-segregated sports to be had that would naturally include the place of trans people anyway, but regardless, anyone who suddenly decided that fairness in women's sports was the most important thing in the world after flatly ignoring it for their entire lives is a disingenuous prick who doesn't actually give a poo poo about the subject and only wants a stick to beat trans people with, so even if there's a salient debate to be had their opinions on the subject are quite literally worthless. So bluntly they can take the half-formed opinions they suddenly decided to have and gently caress off on the horse they rode in on.

# ? Dec 21, 2023 21:35

NotJustANumber99: Feb 15, 2012; somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

sinky posted:

Pretty hosed up that someone can get an indefinite hospital order for hacking

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I wonder why they might be violent while held in custody

Also at the judge for trying to make people care that some videogame clips got leaked / cost four companies an entire �10m. Nvidia alone made $4billion in profit this year.

There seems to be a lot of other stuff they did that harmed real people. So yeah. They need to be held to account.

Maybe we could have just pushed him over and yelled wasted at him over and over though

# ? Dec 21, 2023 22:00

forkboy84: Jun 13, 2012; Corgis love bread. And Puro

Tesseraction posted:

Being fair breaching it by pointing a bunch of Frenchmen at the Nazis seems like a pretty low mark on a person's record.

Yeah, it's a funny anecdote rather than an outrage, I just saw it on his wiki page and had to share

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Tesseraction: Apr 5, 2009

kinda feel that in a game that kind of thing shouldn't be an issue, given that the problem was misappropriating the red cross

but then I guess I'm a stickler for the spirit of laws rather than the letter

# ? Dec 21, 2023 23:10

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

I think the original Cannon Fodder got complaints about the same thing like 30 years ago.

The red cross gets very protective of its trademark.

# ? Dec 21, 2023 23:18

NotJustANumber99: Feb 15, 2012; somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

i guess to be fair to them it is one that kinda matters

# ? Dec 21, 2023 23:21

NotJustANumber99: Feb 15, 2012; somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

a lot of ruthless dictators, rogue states and completely respectable g8 countries have used the excuse that some computer games have really obfuscated whose a viable target in a warzone these days.

# ? Dec 21, 2023 23:22

Bobby Deluxe: May 9, 2004

Doom also had problems with it IIRC - direct ports are still able to use the original red cross, but any new version where they have changed the graphics substantially, they've apparently had to change it to a green cross (or a pill in the N64 port, which is by far the weirdest version).

# ? Dec 21, 2023 23:27

Enjoy: Apr 18, 2009

HoI4 used the red cross on the pic of medical equipment. I think it took about 2 years for the Red Cross to notice and email the company though.

# ? Dec 21, 2023 23:47

Marmaduke!: May 19, 2009; Why would it do that!?

I hope I can post about Hasbro getting sued cos of Ratchet having red crosses on his shoulders before some other nerd gets there first

# ? Dec 21, 2023 23:49

Enjoy: Apr 18, 2009

sinky posted:

Pretty hosed up that someone can get an indefinite hospital order for hacking

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I wonder why they might be violent while held in custody

Also at the judge for trying to make people care that some videogame clips got leaked / cost four companies an entire �10m. Nvidia alone made $4billion in profit this year.

Speaking as someone with autism bad enough that when I tried to live a normal life with a job and apartment I ended up in an emergency psychiatric hospital: this kid was living in a Travelodge so he clearly has no support network. An indefinite hospital order might be the healthiest place for him, considering he's destroying other peoples lives as well as his own.

# ? Dec 22, 2023 00:03

Tigey: Apr 6, 2015

OwlFancier posted:

I think the original Cannon Fodder got complaints about the same thing like 30 years ago.

The red cross gets very protective of its trademark.

It was about the game using poppy related imagery on the cover, so they were forced to add a disclaimer that they weren't endorsed by the Royal British Legion.

The anti-war message of the game seems to have eluded them.

# ? Dec 22, 2023 00:12

forkboy84: Jun 13, 2012; Corgis love bread. And Puro

https://twitter.com/SolHughesWriter/status/1737974475709145130?t=8YDE0gd7GppRHwZbakAdoA&s=19

# ? Dec 22, 2023 00:33

Endjinneer: Aug 17, 2005; Fallen Rib

bessantj posted:

One of the examples that the YouTuber used was a trans woman breaking the leg of a cis woman during rugby training, when he said that I had to give up on the video. I had payed rugby, in various forms, for nearly 20 years I've seen people break bones during training, I've gotten a bad injury in training. It felt like a very disingenuous thing to bring up.

I think if these commentators were making this argument from a position of genuine concern for players and interest in the sport, they would find time to discuss how streaming kids into rugby teams by age is a really bad idea, especially during the years of puberty which people experience at different rates.
Actual rugby coaches certainly have a lot to say about how streaming by body mass can make it a safer game for young people.

# ? Dec 22, 2023 00:49

Angepain: Jul 13, 2012; what keeps happening to my clothes

forkboy84 posted:

https://twitter.com/SolHughesWriter/status/1737974475709145130?t=8YDE0gd7GppRHwZbakAdoA&s=19

this has already been deleted, whatever it was

# ? Dec 22, 2023 00:51

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Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

Not only does Michael Phelps get a pass, but inversely female athletes have always been punished for excellence, such as the creation of female leagues allowing vastly more funds to be siphoned to male leagues, or women just being banned from competing for their own natural advantages: https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2021/07/two-cis-black-women-banned-olympics-natural-testosterone-levels/

There's a much wider conversation on sex-segregated sports to be had that would naturally include the place of trans people anyway, but regardless, anyone who suddenly decided that fairness in women's sports was the most important thing in the world after flatly ignoring it for their entire lives is a disingenuous prick who doesn't actually give a poo poo about the subject and only wants a stick to beat trans people with, so even if there's a salient debate to be had their opinions on the subject are quite literally worthless. So bluntly they can take the half-formed opinions they suddenly decided to have and gently caress off on the horse they rode in on.

To say nothing of the fact a lot of women's sports got hived off after integrated sports started to result in a bunch of women beating men, and BOY is that something a bunch of men couldn't tolerate!

I agree with the second paragraph as well, but their nonsense in this regard does do a particularly good job of highlighting how their 'feminism' is both misogynistic and racist as all hell.

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