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Nodoze posted:Cease had a 97 ERA+ last year, 2022 definitely looks to be a massive outlier. The only person in the org I trust to do their job well is Matt Blake, so putting a guy with those pitch traits in his hands seems like a worthy gamble
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gently caress players feelings. What is he gonna intentionally pitch worse because someone else got more money than him?
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Carlosologist posted:The only person in the org I trust to do their job well is Matt Blake, so putting a guy with those pitch traits in his hands seems like a worthy gamble What the pricetag for him compared to Burnes?
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R.D. Mangles posted:the other teams are trying to spend it but they are not located in los angeles I find myself ever-so-slightly missing the Jim Hendry days a little. Dude would target a big name, and go sign him, for better or worse.
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RCarr posted:gently caress players feelings. What is he gonna intentionally pitch worse because someone else got more money than him? Honestly kind of yeah? The Yankees already dealt with this poo poo with that total piece of human garbage Chapman basically refusing to be benched or pulled when he was completely loving up as a closer. My point is moreso that it seems like Yankees “culture” of being rings or bust no matter what has completely dissolved and they’ve forced themselves into agreements for temperamental and ego-driven stars in recent years, and as a result they’ve forced themselves into a weird little box of intentionally low-balling future potential superstars because otherwise someone who they’re already paying will be pissed. Cuz I don’t really buy the narrative that the Yankees are cheap bastards or just too loving stupid to pay what the market demands; it’s easier to believe that this is a calculated effort to try and maintain a positive clubhouse atmosphere. Of course, there’s a backdoor criticism one could make that it was a fundamental error to hitch the Yankees’ wagon to temperamental stars outside of Judge but, you know, hindsight being 20/20 and all.
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RCarr posted:gently caress players feelings. What is he gonna intentionally pitch worse because someone else got more money than him? It takes a ridiculous level of focus and work to dominate major league hitters, even if you have world class stuff and control. If he gets pissed off and stops giving a poo poo, or even just becomes unfocused, hell yes his performance can take a nosedive. That's separate from the problem of an angry superstar making the Yankees clubhouse a miserable place to be which would adversely affect everyone's performance.
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David Wells did it on large quantities of meat and beer alone. Cole will be fine.
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The noise out of NY has been the Yankees were all in on Yomamato but weren’t planning to pivot to the next best option if they missed out on him. They have to add some SP since they depleted their depth with the Soto trade but the thing is they were trying to add a second ace, not replace one. So theoretically they can just add middle/back rotation guys and hope Rodan and Cortes are healthy. Which like they have to anyway. But I dunno. I don’t expect a panicked Snell mega contract or Cease trade. But who knows? It sucks to miss out on a talent like Yomamato but that’s the game. glasnost toyboy posted:Yeah, I don't know why Yankees fans are acting like it was purely a money thing and a few million more would have sealed the deal. Because making it a pure money thing allows people to blame The Yankees and Cashman entirely for failing to sign a highly coveted free agent and complain and yell and say “the Boss never would have met this happen!” It’s been a tough Christmas for them since the Soto trade. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 16:12 on Dec 22, 2023 |
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They have nothing to trade for Burnes anyway so that is a huge moot point
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Didn't check my phone last night, waking up to some amazing news. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3ALwKeSEYs
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They need to do more things like the Verdugo trade to make marginal improvements in the roster especially to the lineup. I feel like they will be able to figure out the pitching through the season at the deadline. I would like to see more turnover in the everyday players.
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I've heard stuff about the Dodgers org, like their food, the way they run their minor leagues, just their general day-to-day business, etc. that makes them more appealing because they're just seen as a good place to work, is there anywhere to read up on that kind of stuff?
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mcmagic posted:What the pricetag for him compared to Burnes? Reinsdorf is legendarily cheap so I’d argue it’s less on the prospect side if you eat Yoan Moncada’s contract next year
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Carlosologist posted:Reinsdorf is legendarily cheap so I’d argue it’s less on the prospect side if you eat Yoan Moncada’s contract next year They shouldn't give up that much for him. He isn't that good. The Yankees are going to bring back Montas because Cashman will need to justify his brutal trade lol
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I'm sorry is there any evidence that Gerrit Cole is an Aroldis Chapman type of rear end in a top hat? What is this being based on?
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Cole’s certainly got some edge and a bit of primadonna started in him. But yeah I don’t know where that “the Yankees have surrounded Judge with temperamental assholes” thing came from. Like it feels like you have to take the most uncharitable view of Cole and include Chapman and Donaldson to kind of get there and they’re both long gone.
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Nodoze posted:Very funny how all the reporting about him was "this guy wants the big stage, wants to be a star" etc. and he ends up on a team that will never be the big story in town over whatever is happening with the Lakers even if they suck, and will also end up being second fiddle to Ohtani.
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bawfuls posted:this is not true Yes it is, come on. The Lakers are 100% the biggest draw in LA
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The narrative that Yamamoto would have to go to X to be the star he allegedly wanted to seemed like the most nonsensical of bullshit from writers and fans rationalizing their baseless speculation. If Yamamoto is as good as advertised he’ll have plenty of opportunity to be a star and make money whether he’s standing next to Ohtani or Judge. Ohtani became a star and made a fortune in Anaheim standing next to Trout.
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The Berzerker posted:Hearing the Jays are finalists for Bellinger, so I assume he's signing with the Dodgers any minute now.
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STAC Goat posted:Cole’s certainly got some edge and a bit of primadonna started in him. But yeah I don’t know where that “the Yankees have surrounded Judge with temperamental assholes” thing came from. Like it feels like you have to take the most uncharitable view of Cole and include Chapman and Donaldson to kind of get there and they’re both long gone. It also honestly seems like Donaldson was decently liked in tha clubhouse, he's been at a few player's weddings recently. I think Bauer is the only dude who would actually cause a stink with Cole and I certainly wouldn't blame him.
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Nodoze posted:Yes it is, come on. The Lakers are 100% the biggest draw in LA
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Yeah the Dodgers are huge in LA, especially since the Lakers are right now an organizationally inept shitshow of palace intrigue and Succession-level white people failing upwards in their front office. Having just moved from there, yes, it’s the LAkers and probably always will be but the Dodgers are still an enormous draw. If you want to talk about sports teams nobody in that town gives a flying gently caress about it’s the Rams and especially the Chargers, the Dodgers are doing absolutely fine especially when they have a former Laker in their ownership group.
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Nodoze posted:They have nothing to trade for Burnes anyway so that is a huge moot point But… but… Jasson Dominguez!!! In all seriousness there is always something to trade. Will Warren and Chase Hampton are pretty good pitching prospects and they could put together a package similar to what they paid for Soto.
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Harlock posted:No Dodgers fan will be safe if they fail to win the World Series
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No-one cares about the historically inept and cash poor Yankees, we have dealz* *subject to medical https://twitter.com/kileymcd/status/1738203096436674764
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Inspector_666 posted:It also honestly seems like Donaldson was decently liked in tha clubhouse, he's been at a few player's weddings recently. Josh Donaldson being well liked by anyone is unfathomable
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Darude - Adam Sandstorm posted:Josh Donaldson being well liked by anyone is unfathomable Oh I'm not defending it, just that he didn't seem to be as discordant as we all thought.
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Dolandson was still right in the Tim Anderson dustup.
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mcmagic posted:They need to do more things like the Verdugo trade to make marginal improvements in the roster especially to the lineup. I feel like they will be able to figure out the pitching through the season at the deadline. I would like to see more turnover in the everyday players. I agree with this. Their lineup, even with Soto, is still pretty one-dimensonal and their bench is abysmal. I'm also not sure about DJLM as an everyday player anymore, especially at third base. I mean you can never have too much pitching but that wasn't the problem last year.
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mcmagic posted:Dolandson was still right in the Tim Anderson dustup. Breaking: mcmagic wrong
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Inspector_666 posted:I'm sorry is there any evidence that Gerrit Cole is an Aroldis Chapman type of rear end in a top hat? What is this being based on? Nowhere. It’s completely made up.
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Well Played Mauer posted:I agree with this. Their lineup, even with Soto, is still pretty one-dimensonal and their bench is abysmal. I'm also not sure about DJLM as an everyday player anymore, especially at third base. They really should be looking to turn over DJLM, Rizzo, Torres and Stanton but I don't get the feeling they are doing any of that lol
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A bunch of rumblings that the Jays are getting close on Michael Taylor. I imagine that means they won't be signing Bellinger or that his price is too high right now and they're at least signing plan B. edit: I think this would be a platoon bat anyway. Don't think this takes them out on Bellinger completely but it could be months til he signs
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https://twitter.com/JackCurryYES/status/1738225962033242120 The Yankees are so loving dumb
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mcmagic posted:Dolandson was still right in the Tim Anderson dustup. Oh yeah?
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