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Wipfmetz posted:
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Wipfmetz posted:Germanic, not german. German got kinda frenchified over the course of the recent centuries. One of the common examples is Fester/Window. Uncle Fenster In all seriousness though, it's more likely a loan word that made its way into Old West Germanic through Latin ('fenestra') because it still retains the S, whereas in 'fenêtre' it already disappeared (you can tell there used to be an S there because of the accent circonflexe).
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Wipfmetz posted:And other stuff, like German & French using real grammar instead. English only has three cases, it's a baby language for baby people. It does compensate with two squirrels, and that's cute. The world is baby now.
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Pope Hilarius II posted:Uncle Fenster Don't stop there -- it's one of the few Etruscan loan words in living languages.
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Tei posted:Luxemburguess is a language? I trough they would speak french, or german or something from the a country in the area. it's not a language because while they have an army, they lack a navy
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ChubbyChecker posted:it's not a language because while they have an army, they lack a navy They need to take control of a river or lake, and militarize it.
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Saladman posted:No, it would be called a patois. Pidgin and creole don’t make sense in that context, as those words are indicative of how the language originally developed, which would not be the case for Luxembourgish or Dutch or Occitan. it’s not a common imposed language by mass immigration or colonial powers. Luxembourgish has a ton of French loanwords because of French political domination since 1800, but it’s not really to the extent of being a creole, like say, English circa 1300. switzerlandish is a language: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navies_of_landlocked_countries
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steinrokkan posted:I have some bad news for you if you think English is a bastion against the frenchificacion of Germanic languages English is a creole developed by Norman mercenaries flirting with Saxon barmaids.
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gendered languages are utter lunacy. that table over there? a dude. this toothbrush? obviously a lady pure nonsense
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Lemniscate Blue posted:English is a creole developed by Norman mercenaries flirting with Saxon barmaids.
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Beef comes from French and cow from English, because the English can't cook.
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redleader posted:gendered languages are utter lunacy. that table over there? a dude. this toothbrush? obviously a lady esperanto mostly avoided all of that but then they forgot to make a standardized gender ambiguous or gender neutral singular pronoun so its either microreform movements or awkward workarounds.
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redleader posted:gendered languages are utter lunacy. that table over there? a dude. this toothbrush? obviously a lady yeah thats nonsense. tables are obviously female
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No no tables are gender neutral but chairs are male and meals are Female.
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drk posted:According to this highly scientific illustration, English is the most German language of all The Urdu cat stalking the Hindi birds seems loaded.
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redleader posted:gendered languages are utter lunacy. that table over there? a dude. this toothbrush? obviously a lady I am native spanish speaker and I agree. For programming, it can lead to variables that can end in -o or -a, and you never remember the right genre
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redleader posted:gendered languages are utter lunacy. that table over there? a dude. this toothbrush? obviously a lady I always interpret it (as somebody who doesn't speak a gendered language) as "There are at least two or three kinds of things, so there are that many kinds of words to refer to things. Men and women are different enough that if you have multiple kinds of words, you split them up." What I'm saying is that dudes are like tables and ladies are like toothbrushes, not the other way around.
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at least in portuguese i'll hazard a guess that what happened is that (simplifying a bit) some nouns ended with -a and some nouns ended with -o, and for some reason whoever made up the language also decided that there's going to be different prepositions for these nouns, and some other nerd decided to call these different buckets "male" and "female", and call the bucket "gender" because *throws stack of papers*
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The flags are the most represented foreign country in each country's football leagues
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i would’ve guessed italians are the biggest foreign presence of at least one european nation, wow.
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abelwingnut posted:i would’ve guessed italians are the biggest foreign presence of at least one european nation, wow. Italian lads aren't allowed to leave home until they are 30, let alone move country. 
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Portugal is eastern Poland.
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abelwingnut posted:i would’ve guessed italians are the biggest foreign presence of at least one european nation, wow. Strong domestic league system + extremely old demographics, I guess.
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Space Kablooey posted:at least in portuguese i'll hazard a guess that what happened is that (simplifying a bit) some nouns ended with -a and some nouns ended with -o, and for some reason whoever made up the language also decided that there's going to be different prepositions for these nouns, and some other nerd decided to call these different buckets "male" and "female", and call the bucket "gender" because *throws stack of papers* In other languages, the grammatical genders are not linked to social genders, so for example Swahili has twenty something grammatical genders if I recall correctly. It's a happy (not really) accident that Indo-European decided to conflate the two.
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BonHair posted:In other languages, the grammatical genders are not linked to social genders, so for example Swahili has twenty something grammatical genders if I recall correctly. It's a happy (not really) accident that Indo-European decided to conflate the two.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:The simplest solution is to maintain the grammatical genders and blow up the social genders. Nah, Finnish style blowing up both is the way to go. Nouns are just nouns, but if you really want you can distinguish between humans and non humans. Unless you're saying blow up all men, in which case, yeah, sure, let's go.
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BonHair posted:Nah, Finnish style blowing up both is the way to go. Nouns are just nouns, but if you really want you can distinguish between humans and non humans.
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A Buttery Pastry posted:We have to keep grammatical genders, otherwise Mario, Maria, and Marie will end up with the same names. Ah yes, the three genders: Italian, Swedish and Danish
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 Not the usual positive progress these maps show over time. Argentina in particular is awful.
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BonHair posted:Ah yes, the three genders: Italian, Swedish and Danish Blut posted:
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A Buttery Pastry posted:That's masculine, feminine, and neuter. Yes but Argentina went from upper middle to just plain undeveloped. Venezuela went from bad to terrible but Argentina went from great for Latin America to what the hell
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Guess there's now only three types of countries in economic theory.
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Congratulations to Paraguay for being the only country to show improvement. Suriname isn't labeled, so possibly they did as well. No idea what's going on with French Guiana. I do get a little amusement over the "people per capita" bit in the explanation at the bottom.
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Argentina used to be richer than Europe lol. We'll see how the new guy manages to gently caress it up even more somehow.
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Blut posted:
I mean, is this exchange rate adjusted? Because that could be throwing pretty much everyone far off.
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mobby_6kl posted:Argentina used to be richer than Europe lol. We'll see how the new guy manages to gently caress it up even more somehow. This is from 10 years ago, but is just as accurate today as it was then. The whole article is worth reading, but a few select highlights: quote:These are emblems of Argentina’s Belle Époque, the period before the outbreak of the first world war when the country could claim to be the world’s true land of opportunity. In the 43 years leading up to 1914, GDP had grown at an annual rate of 6%, the fastest recorded in the world. The country was a magnet for European immigrants, who flocked to find work on the fertile pampas, where crops and cattle were propelling Argentina’s expansion. In 1914 half of Buenos Aires’s population was foreign-born. https://www.economist.com/briefing/2014/02/17/a-century-of-decline
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I am also having trouble believing that every single country in South America (except Paraguay) has a worse poverty rate than a decade ago, regardless of economic system or demographics, unless the 2022 figure is a snapshot of the immediate aftereffects of covid.
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E. Misread
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Phlegmish posted:I am also having trouble believing that every single country in South America (except Paraguay) has a worse poverty rate than a decade ago, regardless of economic system or demographics, unless the 2022 figure is a snapshot of the immediate aftereffects of covid. Guyana is especially surprising, since their GDP per capita has like quintupled since 2012. Yeah it’s not going to be evenly distributed but I can’t believe it got that much worse either, especially not if those are raw or inflation-adjusted dollars (rather than PPP adjusted plus inflation adjusted dollars). In a quick google it looks like the 2022 number might be right, but the 2012 number was more like 60% in poverty. I haven’t exactly done a research paper on it, but I don’t see any indicators that Guyana got worse for the average person in those 10 years, and macroeconomically (as much as a tiny country can have a macroeconomy) got way better.
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BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:Yes but Argentina went from upper middle to just plain undeveloped. Blut posted:This is from 10 years ago, but is just as accurate today as it was then. The whole article is worth reading, but a few select highlights:
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