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You're not you when you're sleepy E and you can't rest here. Enemies are nearby.
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Eric the Mauve posted:Friends, I have never touched Morrowind before and am about to. I grabbed it from GOG and will be going MGSE rather than OpenMW. 1: You really shouldn’t use any graphics mods except to increase draw distance/lower the N64 fog, especially PC/NPC appearance stuff. They are all hideous and immersion breaking. Don’t. 2: Fatigue actually matters, all your accuracy checks etc will be massively penalized if you used all your stamina. For some reason just walking depletes stamina and I’d recommend a mod that makes it not do that. 3: DO NOT use a 100% accuracy mod. It’s part of the design for a reason and it’s only “stupid” if you don’t use your own major weapon skill. 4: Argonians and Khajit get massive armor penalties they can’t compensate for. Most of the helmets are forbidden because of your big snout, and you are literally not allowed to use leg armor. 5: Don’t listen to the tryhards that tell you to take the Atronarch Birthsign. A smidgin of extra MP is not worth the massive pain in the rear end not regenerating magic is. If you’re playing a mage just take the Apprentice (or do your own thing and pick the Serpent I’m not your boss) 6: Have fast travel options. There’s no “select map icon” travel so you need to know where the bus routes are, and carry around an amulet or spell for both interventions and mark/recall. 7: Get a mod that keeps the tribunal expansion from triggering before you want it too. 8: Use Spears. It’s your only chance and you can do fun things with their extra range 9: The game doesn’t level like Skyrim and Oblivion, everything is hand placed. some areas and quests are high level and you should come back later. 10: In general don’t use a lot of mods because you’ll miss out on the magical true Morrowind experience.
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Dec 23, 2023 04:38
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There’s a small magic regen mod I use sometimes tho it’s not necessary with alchemy really, otherwise unless you get really annoyed at something, intelligent or enhanced textures, the code patch, and patch for purists plus MGE are all you really need. Maybe throw something on like mort’s pickpocket fix and stealth mod if you’re playing stealthy.
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Dec 23, 2023 04:48
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Make sure to install a fast travel mod to annoy the purists. https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/41542
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Dec 23, 2023 06:11
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The expansions do level scaling I thought?
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Dec 23, 2023 07:12
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There absolutely is level scaling, but it's more limited then in later games. If you're really high level then you'll find golden saints when wandering around those hills with daedra random encounters, and find grand soul gems as loot in smuggler barrels. But a lot of stuff is also hand-placed and will be unchanged no matter your level.
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Dec 23, 2023 07:58
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i cant give a better explanation than mortquote:Tribunal and Bloodmoon were released as expansions to the base game, and were intended for players who had already fully cleared previous quests. All of the enemies and non-hostile NPCs are much higher level because of that. While a powerful vanilla NPC might be level 30, a powerful Bloodmoon NPC could be level 70. Ash Vampires and 'legendarily powerful' creatures/NPCs in the base game are somehow weaker than most expansion NPCs. e: that's from the intro to his mods that fix that problem, check them out today 
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Dec 23, 2023 08:10
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Yeah without rebalance mods the expansions are hilariously overtuned. Rando NPC's at Fort Frostmoth have more base HP than Dagoth Ur. OTOH though by the time you hit Bloodmoon if you're saving it for last the player can absolutely be beyond overpowered to the point that it's barely going to be noticeable. The only annoying thing I notice in the expansions, particularly Tribunal, is that everybody has ridiculous innate reflect baked into them so if you're playing a mage or using a cast on strike weapon, then gently caress you.
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Dec 23, 2023 08:18
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Thanks for the pointers, all. Is there anything modding related I should be careful not to trip over? Will MO2+MWSE+the handful of core mods work and continue to work as I inevitably add more mods later?
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Eric the Mauve posted:Thanks for the pointers, all. Is there anything modding related I should be careful not to trip over? Will MO2+MWSE+the handful of core mods work and continue to work as I inevitably add more mods later? I’m not in a place I can really get the link but try and find the GitHub for the still updated version of MLOX, it will help sort mods. Shouldn’t be an issue with a small mod list for load order really and it’s not a perfect sorter but it’s a good start.
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Mr E posted:I’m not in a place I can really get the link but try and find the GitHub for the still updated version of MLOX, it will help sort mods. Shouldn’t be an issue with a small mod list for load order really and it’s not a perfect sorter but it’s a good start. MO2 is very robust for modding and will save you hours of the traditional Morrowind modding experience: gripping heartache as you accidentally overwrite hundreds of files in the wrong order with no easy way to tell what you just broke. I agree with using mlox (run it through MO2 to correctly sort your mods) and make sure you adjust your MO2 mod folders' order to match the .esp order in general. Also make sure you've registered your BSAs. Morrowind is generally fairly forgiving about adding mods although if a mod changes a cell you've already visited, you can sometimes get weird duplications, like 2 of the same NPC or 2 copies of a door and you have to open both. See https://en.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind_Mod:Doubling Doubling can usually be avoided by avoiding changes to load order during a game. Adding files on the end is usually better tolerated than adding files in the middle of the order. Wrye Mash can be used to repair save games with doubling although I don't claim a lot of experience with this. So my advice would be to pick a set of mods that you want to play with, do a test run for feel, and if you do need to make changes consider a restart or at least be on the lookout for any weirdness in your save after. edit: If you're unsure how compatible two different mods will be with each other, you can also try checking in TESTool and generating a list of conflicting records. Cantorsdust fucked around with this message at 19:05 on Dec 23, 2023 |
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Dec 23, 2023 18:59
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I’d like to say avoid any housing mods for your first play through (or five). Finding a cool place to decorate with your stuff that’s in a cool or convenient location that you get attached to is part of the fun. It’s something you can’t do in Skyrim or Oblivion because everything in the world regularly gets erased and reset, whereas in Morrowind every building or apartment can be emptied and used as your permanent residence. It also makes the strongholds that much more meaningful.
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Dec 23, 2023 19:28
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Eh, at least housing mods are usually pretty low impact, and if you get the urge you can always go shopping for a house on Nexus later. My “housing mod” is always just my stronghold in Uvirith’s Legacy anyway, although one play through probably over a decade ago I had a really good time with Private Mobile Base.
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Dec 23, 2023 20:17
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galagazombie posted:2: Fatigue actually matters, all your accuracy checks etc will be massively penalized if you used all your stamina. For some reason just walking depletes stamina and I’d recommend a mod that makes it not do that. Great advice, buuut: I'm pretty sure you don't lose fatigue while walking, only running. Though some people find walking to be excruciatingly slow. Beast races can't use closed helmets, nor boots. But Argonians are very resistant to poison and diseases, which is quite handy.
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Dec 23, 2023 23:42
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Captain Scandinaiva posted:Great advice, buuut: You can give yourself poison and disease resistance/cures though, there isn’t a spell, enchantment, or potion that can give you normal feet.
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Dec 23, 2023 23:53
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Argonians (and to a lesser extent Khajiit) are the loving coolest though. That's a big plus.
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The coolest at being my slaves, you mean.
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One of the earliest Morrowind mods I remember was auto-converting boots to leg rings for Khajiit and Argonians. I'm sure there have only been more sophisticated versions since.
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Cantorsdust posted:Eh, at least housing mods are usually pretty low impact, and if you get the urge you can always go shopping for a house on Nexus later. My “housing mod” is always just my stronghold in Uvirith’s Legacy anyway, although one play through probably over a decade ago I had a really good time with Private Mobile Base. I find the most important part of housing mods is storage since containers have limits and housing mods can greatly increase those if you don't want to operate out of some place with a permanent corpse you have hold all your stuff or something. Last time I played the modpack I was using had a little bolthole in the Balmora temple where it had a bunch of 999999 capacity containers in easy reach of each other so0 I could just set a mark (multimark mod, of course) and recall to unload if I had too much Stuff.
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Dec 24, 2023 01:25
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What all are you storing that you need so much space. I obsessively save, and decorate with, every “unique” item the game and have never run into storage issues or needed to use a perma-corpse.
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Dec 24, 2023 02:23
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I think if you have Tamriel rebuilt and whatever the newer versions of the mods that let you select any of the added races at creation there might be a khajiit that has post oblivion games feet so you can wear boots at least. Might be the diversified khajiit mod that has those tho.
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Dec 24, 2023 02:30
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galagazombie posted:What all are you storing that you need so much space. I obsessively save, and decorate with, every “unique” item the game and have never run into storage issues or needed to use a perma-corpse. Many of us are terrible hoarders (I never have enough room for all my alchemy ingredients lol) That’s one of the many reasons I made this simple mod https://www.nexusmods.com/morrowind/mods/46833
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Zereth posted:I find the most important part of housing mods is storage since containers have limits and housing mods can greatly increase those if you don't want to operate out of some place with a permanent corpse you have hold all your stuff or something. Last time I played the modpack I was using had a little bolthole in the Balmora temple where it had a bunch of 999999 capacity containers in easy reach of each other so0 I could just set a mark (multimark mod, of course) and recall to unload if I had too much Stuff. If you need just well-organized storage and not a house per se, I recommend mwse Containers which has categorized containers that allow for auto-sort like functionality. Only drawback is the first time on every load you have to drop them from your inventory and manually activate them to set the scripts correctly. After first activation you can just use them in the inventory to use auto-sort.
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It's kinda hilarious that Khajit and Argonians are enslaved untermenschen by virtue of... not wearing shoes. Like that's the class divide
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I love house mods and the only time I ever messed with modding was to create a simple house mod for myself. I made it on a hillside just outside Balmora next to the silt strider and was pretty much just a bunch of rooms with tables and shelves. I lost that mod though and I'm pretty sure I never uploaded it anywhere.  There's another Balmora house mod I used for my last big playthrough that has some automation features that were nice. There's also a house mod that was in a valley in southern Vvardenfell that was just a straightforward house in a valley near a waterfall. As I recall there's a Skyrim house mod that basically puts a mansion/museum in Solitude and you can use it to track your progression in getting unique items and stuff, sort of like an ingame achievements display. I don't know if there's anything like that for Morrowind but that'd be rad.
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Asterite34 posted:It's kinda hilarious that Khajit and Argonians are enslaved untermenschen by virtue of... not wearing shoes. Like that's the class divide They have reverse jointed legs and look like cats/lizards
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galagazombie posted:What all are you storing that you need so much space. I obsessively save, and decorate with, every “unique” item the game and have never run into storage issues or needed to use a perma-corpse. Everything. hannibal posted:As I recall there's a Skyrim house mod that basically puts a mansion/museum in Solitude and you can use it to track your progression in getting unique items and stuff, sort of like an ingame achievements display. I don't know if there's anything like that for Morrowind but that'd be rad.
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Another point in Morrowind’s favor: When I meticulously place all my cool weapons and artifacts around the house it stays that way. When I meticulously place all my cool weapons and artifacts around the house in Oblivion and Skyrim they explode and fly across the room at lethal speeds every time I load the cell. Physics was a mistake.
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atronach is a great pick, especially for a melee focussed character 50% chance to negate any magic cast on you from the get-go is so good mana potions are plentiful too so it's not like it's diffi cult to stay topped off I pick it for just about every character I make
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It's good, but I'm swayed by the argument that it's very far from the typical experience; I'd say t's more of an interesting alternative for subsequent characters.
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galagazombie posted:Another point in Morrowind’s favor: When I meticulously place all my cool weapons and artifacts around the house it stays that way. When I meticulously place all my cool weapons and artifacts around the house in Oblivion and Skyrim they explode and fly across the room at lethal speeds every time I load the cell. Physics was a mistake. While I'm on the mod recommending subject, I also recommend Perfect Placement for very precise placement options.
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Yeah, atronach seems like it was designed more for a sword mage character than a pure mage. You have poo poo spell points without it, but now you can easily cast heal after a fight when you wouldn't be able to otherwise.
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Nah, it's actually the best for a pure mage character too. There are so many ways to get magicka back it's not burdensome at all.
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It's annoying early game which is the only difficult part. It's actually the best for non magic characters at all
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Magicka is only used for casting 25pt jump for 1 second(s) over and over while you travel
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ikanreed posted:Magicka is only used for casting 25pt jump for 1 second(s) over and over while you travel  this is the pro-tier fast travel
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Best travel tip is 0 points Slowfall. Makes you immune to fall damage without actually slowing you down. And costs so little it can just be put on top of whatever your actual constant effect enchantment is.
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galagazombie posted:Best travel tip is 0 points Slowfall. Makes you immune to fall damage without actually slowing you down. And costs so little it can just be put on top of whatever your actual constant effect enchantment is. No that's dumb you need to carefully gauge your fall distances
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galagazombie posted:Best travel tip is 0 points Slowfall. Makes you immune to fall damage without actually slowing you down. And costs so little it can just be put on top of whatever your actual constant effect enchantment is. Yeah, but do I still get the Acrobatics xp for hurting myself a bit after misgauging the fall? Or the Restoration xp for fixing myself after?? (But seriously, I can’t believe I hadn’t heard about that)
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Comrade Blyatlov posted:No that's dumb you need to carefully gauge your fall distances Maybe you do 
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