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Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Private Speech posted:

In Cambridge the high street is still full of various shops and quirky places.

But then again the city's full of tech workers & stupidly expensive and most of the city centre is owned by the university.

Oxford is exactly the same.

I lived around it all my life & have come to hate the loving place.

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Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

Mega Comrade posted:

Back in my glorious retail days we had a regular who was a believer in chemtrails. He would lean against the counter and just talk for hours about the various nonsense theories of his.
And then he'd offer you some coke to share.

Chemtrails :colbert:
Chem rails :dance:

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.

Crust First posted:

I have wondered if that place was ever open. There was also a traditional candy shop that opened, failed after a short time, and was replaced by a different traditional candy shop that also failed in short order. Plus an American themed diner that was basically never open with no posted hours that has, shockingly, closed as well.

Still enjoy wandering the high street from time to time though.

I remember Toast 2 Roast because I went in there when I first moved down to Poole.

I went in the American Diner once too, again maybe 8 years ago. It changed hands a few times and was a milkshake place before going back to a diner. Its been closed since Tony and Guy moved next to it which is at least 5 years now.

Lady Demelza
Dec 29, 2009



Lipstick Apathy
There's an American Candy shop in my nearest town, and it's surrounded by two or three empty shops in each direction. You can't even pretend it's a legit business, because nobody is going to trek down that street to get some overpriced sugar and nobody is going to want to open a shop surrounded by derelict buildings.

domhal
Dec 30, 2008


0.000% of Communism has been built. Evil child-murdering billionaires still rule the world with a shit-eating grin. All he has managed to do is make himself *sad*. It has, however, made him into a very, very smart boy with something like a university degree in Truth. Instead of building Communism, he now builds a precise model of this grotesque, duplicitous world.

Guavanaut posted:

"Yes people need to fly far less, it's destroying the environment and causing changes to the global climate."
"No that's woke!"

Imagine if there were tiny planes flying around at ground level and we were all breathing in chemtrails 24/7.

Tsietisin
Jul 2, 2004

Time passes quickly on the weekend.

There is a Chinese takeaway nearby that I swear must be into money laundering or front for organised crime.

All I know is that they sell a main menu option with separate rice for £4.80. These are not small portions either. They have to be up to nefarious deeds.

stev
Jan 22, 2013

Please be excited.



Tsietisin posted:

There is a Chinese takeaway nearby that I swear must be into money laundering or front for organised crime.

All I know is that they sell a main menu option with separate rice for £4.80. These are not small portions either. They have to be up to nefarious deeds.

My local Chinese and barbers are the only cash only businesses I frequent and I implicitly assume they're into something dodgy together.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


Trainee PornStar posted:

Oxford is exactly the same.

I lived around it all my life & have come to hate the loving place.

Having lived in both I actually feel Oxford is more barren - not terrible by any means, but still. The Templar Square, Cowley, etc. high streets are full-on urban decay and the city centre is full of chain stores with a few tourist traps.

e: I said it was closer to Bristol but Bristol has lots of neat places.

Either way they are both a lot better than most places.

Private Speech fucked around with this message at 17:05 on Dec 26, 2023

Crust First
May 1, 2013

Wrong lads.

serious gaylord posted:

I remember Toast 2 Roast because I went in there when I first moved down to Poole.

I went in the American Diner once too, again maybe 8 years ago. It changed hands a few times and was a milkshake place before going back to a diner. Its been closed since Tony and Guy moved next to it which is at least 5 years now.

Ah I forgot about that American diner, I was talking about Sweet Caroline's which I had only managed to catch open one time and it was... fine, I guess.

Wachter
Mar 23, 2007

You and whose knees?

According to my uncle friend who works for Nintendo HMRC the following are all rife with money laundering/tax evasion/money laundering:

Nail bars
Barbers
Takeaways
Taxi firms
Window cleaners
Hand car washes

The HMRC can't do poo poo about any of this due to a combination of the high burden of proof and the high proportion of cash transactions. Occasionally some weak-rear end civil proceedings for paying below minimum wage.

Disclaimer: these are not my opinions but rather those of a filthy loving fed, so take with a pinch of salt

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

stev posted:

My local Chinese and barbers are the only cash only businesses I frequent and I implicitly assume they're into something dodgy together.

If you mean "something dodgy" in the sense of "paying gently caress all tax" then yea.


E: I don't give a poo poo really. I paid for 90% of my house extension with cash-in-hand so I'm in no position to grumble if a local takeaway is doing their thing

Runcible Cat
May 28, 2007

Ignoring this post

Skarsnik posted:

He's a good lad

so is Wilf the cat.

More Wilf would be nice but yes, that's the kind of Xmas message we need more of.

Tesla was right
Apr 3, 2009

Whats with all the robot sex avatars?
Takeaways are providing an essential public service (feeding hungry goons for pennies) and should not be taxed :colbert:

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

Private Speech posted:

Having lived in both I actually feel Oxford is more barren - not terrible by any means, but still. The Templar Square, Cowley, etc. high streets are full-on urban decay and the city centre is full of chain stores with a few tourist traps.

e: I said it was closer to Bristol but Bristol has lots of neat places.

Either way they are both a lot better than most places.

The centre and the north of Oxford are very wealthy, then there's very impoverished areas round the periphery like Blackbird Leys etc.

For a small city, it has a surprising number of invisible glass walls cutting different social groups off from each other. I used to live there, and always thought of there being a Student Oxford, a Workers Oxford and a Tourist Oxford, with no overlap between the groups and each group experiencing an entirely different city.

I used to drink in the Bullnose Morris, where the BMW and Unipart workers would go and imagine an intrepid backpacking couple somehow finding their way there and being blown away by realising that they'd done the impossible, and found somewhere in Oxford that no other tourist had ever been before.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler
*musing tipsily*

"Aah, the Bullnose Morris! They used to chill their Stella (the old, strong stuff) to ridiculously low temperatures, so the Stella pump would always be covered in a thick layer of frost. (So sophisticated!)

Finishing work at 4 on a Friday; being at the bar by quarter past; watching the fights in the carpark with a good buzz on; those were the days!"

*Heads back to the bar again*

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Lady Demelza posted:

There's an American Candy shop in my nearest town, and it's surrounded by two or three empty shops in each direction. You can't even pretend it's a legit business, because nobody is going to trek down that street to get some overpriced sugar.

Most of the stock in those "American Candy" shops is expired and not meant to be sold. The money laundering is done by opening a second business and buying all the stock from the first business at a premium before closing it down. Rinse and repeat, so to speak.

Gonzo McFee
Jun 19, 2010
Yeah it's a good policy but also not a top thousand priority that'll probably fail to be achieved because closing down money laundering would gently caress up a lot of potential donor's businesses.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Pistol_Pete posted:

The centre and the north of Oxford are very wealthy, then there's very impoverished areas round the periphery like Blackbird Leys etc.

For a small city, it has a surprising number of invisible glass walls cutting different social groups off from each other. I used to live there, and always thought of there being a Student Oxford, a Workers Oxford and a Tourist Oxford, with no overlap between the groups and each group experiencing an entirely different city.

I used to drink in the Bullnose Morris, where the BMW and Unipart workers would go and imagine an intrepid backpacking couple somehow finding their way there and being blown away by realising that they'd done the impossible, and found somewhere in Oxford that no other tourist had ever been before.

These are the same bit (it's the city centre and is, as you suggest, not Cowley or Blackbird Leys or indeed Barton)

mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016

Wachter posted:

According to my uncle friend who works for Nintendo HMRC the following are all rife with money laundering/tax evasion/money laundering:

Nail bars
Barbers
Takeaways
Taxi firms
Window cleaners
Hand car washes

The HMRC can't do poo poo about any of this due to a combination of the high burden of proof and the high proportion of cash transactions. Occasionally some weak-rear end civil proceedings for paying below minimum wage.

Disclaimer: these are not my opinions but rather those of a filthy loving fed, so take with a pinch of salt

Sorry to dirty up y'all's thread with my burgerposting, but do you really refer to UK government employees as "feds?"

Wachter
Mar 23, 2007

You and whose knees?

No

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

mycomancy posted:

Sorry to dirty up y'all's thread with my burgerposting, but do you really refer to UK government employees as "feds?"

No, but it's a fun thing to import from the US occasionally.

Miftan
Mar 31, 2012

Terry knows what he can do with his bloody chocolate orange...

Unlike candy.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

OwlFancier posted:

No, but it's a fun thing to import from the US occasionally.

Yeah when I temped in one particular office- (before the days of mobile phones) one of the guys always used to come in from site visits and say "anyone after me?" and I always used to say "the feds" - we both thought it was hilarious.
Little things etc.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

Lady Demelza posted:

There's an American Candy shop in my nearest town, and it's surrounded by two or three empty shops in each direction. You can't even pretend it's a legit business, because nobody is going to trek down that street to get some overpriced sugar and nobody is going to want to open a shop surrounded by derelict buildings.

*steps out of shadows and opens my beige trench coat, lined with overpriced american sweets and shitey old hersheys chocolate*

eer m8 u fancy somefing sweet??

mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016

OwlFancier posted:

No, but it's a fun thing to import from the US occasionally.

Just be sure to say it in a Brooklyn accent.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
crispix advising some ladies on confectionary

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
your sex perverts back them days had to go outside for to do their sex-crimes, isn't it

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
Two had strokes from what I heard. The third couldn't reach.

WaffleACAB
Oct 31, 2010
Yea not general government employees, 'feds' is used to refer to police usually

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

feedmegin posted:

These are the same bit (it's the city centre and is, as you suggest, not Cowley or Blackbird Leys or indeed Barton)

The students experience the colleges and other city centre facilities as insiders: they live there, are part of the institutions and belong to the appropriate social class. The tourists experience these things as outsiders: they visit briefly and take photos but are not part of that social class and do not belong to the institutions. A typical student would never interact with a typical tourist and vice versa. They might be in the same physical space but are experiencing Oxford in completely different ways.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Pistol_Pete posted:

The students experience the colleges and other city centre facilities as insiders: they live there, are part of the institutions and belong to the appropriate social class. The tourists experience these things as outsiders: they visit briefly and take photos but are not part of that social class and do not belong to the institutions. A typical student would never interact with a typical tourist and vice versa. They might be in the same physical space but are experiencing Oxford in completely different ways.

To expand on that a bit, the 'working people' of oxford experience a completely different thing to both..

Unless you've got a well paid job, your likely going to be earning poo poo money & paying top tier rent to live in a poo poo hole.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

There's also a tiny subset of student oxford which is that experienced by diversity hire students who aren't from obscenely wealthy backgrounds. Where they can afford to live and socialise is a bizarre liminal space, perpetually broke and draining their families resources because they're not allowed part time jobs while also constantly having the obscene wealth of their cohort rubbed in their faces.

The pitch for Saltburn sort of looks like it might be about that sort of thing. I've known a few people who were in that situation and it usually breaks them by alienating them from both worlds.


Gorn Myson posted:

I get why you'd clamp down on those stores, and I get why Labour have announced that they intend to, but I want to know what their actually watered down policy will be by the time the election rolls around.
It's sort of like when San Francisco tech guys talk about wanting to 'solve the homelessness crisis' - they don't want to sort out the causes of homelessness or make it easier for people to get into housing, they mean they want homeless people to not be visible and upset them when they're out shopping.

Brendan Rodgers
Jun 11, 2014




Pistol_Pete posted:

The students experience the colleges and other city centre facilities as insiders: they live there, are part of the institutions and belong to the appropriate social class. The tourists experience these things as outsiders: they visit briefly and take photos but are not part of that social class and do not belong to the institutions. A typical student would never interact with a typical tourist and vice versa. They might be in the same physical space but are experiencing Oxford in completely different ways.

Like The City and the City:

"The City & the City is a novel by British author China Miéville that follows a wide-reaching murder investigation in two cities that exist side by side, each of whose citizens are forbidden to go into or acknowledge the other city"

"These two cities actually occupy much of the same geographical space, but via the volition of their citizens (and the threat of the secret power known as Breach), they are perceived as two different cities. A denizen of one city must dutifully "unsee" (that is, consciously erase from their mind or fade into the background) the denizens, buildings, and events taking place in the other city – even if they are an inch away. This separation is emphasised by the style of clothing, architecture, gait, and the way denizens of each city generally carry themselves. Residents of the cities are taught from childhood to recognise things belonging to the other city without actually seeing them."

Danger - Octopus!
Apr 20, 2008


Nap Ghost

Jedit posted:

Most of the stock in those "American Candy" shops is expired and not meant to be sold. The money laundering is done by opening a second business and buying all the stock from the first business at a premium before closing it down. Rinse and repeat, so to speak.

All the corner shop/convenience store places around here also have a small display of american candy (together with a big sign in the doorway advertising it). I assume that's where it goes after its failed to sell in the high street american candy shops.

Trainee PornStar
Jul 20, 2006

I'm just an inbetweener

Bobby Deluxe posted:

There's also a tiny subset of student oxford which is that experienced by diversity hire students who aren't from obscenely wealthy backgrounds. Where they can afford to live and socialise is a bizarre liminal space, perpetually broke and draining their families resources because they're not allowed part time jobs while also constantly having the obscene wealth of their cohort rubbed in their faces.

I've got a friend in his 60's who grew up in Barton with all the rough kids, at 13 he won a scholarship at one of the colleges in oxford.

It hosed him up... He no longer fitted in with his old mates because he was going to the 'posh school' & on the other side he was a broke arse fucker from a council estate to all his classmates at school.

He's a good bloke & didn't deserve that poo poo.

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Ricky Gervais Netflix review. Imagine Bernard Manning on stage for 90 minutes telling the most extreme, cruel racist and sexist jokes imaginable and then cackling and explaining he’s doing it ironically

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

Brendan Rodgers posted:

Like The City and the City:

"The City & the City is a novel by British author China Miéville that follows a wide-reaching murder investigation in two cities that exist side by side, each of whose citizens are forbidden to go into or acknowledge the other city"
There's a really, really good episode of Trashfuture's Left on Read subcast about Cristina Rivera Garza's The Iliac Crest where they talk about this.

I think it was that one anyway, most of it goes over my head but it's just nice to hear Riley and Alice talking about clever stuff.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

smellmycheese posted:

Ricky Gervais Netflix review. Imagine Bernard Manning on stage for 90 minutes telling the most extreme, cruel racist and sexist jokes imaginable and then cackling and explaining he’s doing it ironically

god he really is a horrible oval office

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

crispix posted:

god he really is a horrible oval office

I watched some because my wife liked him in Afterlife and it is honestly like the worst of 1970s working men’s club comedy but with him saying “ha ha! It’s just an act lol!!!” Genuinely feels like we are due a comedy revolution like the early 80s where this hateful poo poo is rightly mocked and consigned to the bin.

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

smellmycheese posted:

Ricky Gervais Netflix review. Imagine Bernard Manning on stage for 90 minutes telling the most extreme, cruel racist and sexist jokes imaginable and then cackling and explaining he’s doing it ironically
Wasn't that Roy Chubby Brown's whole* gimmick?

Say the most offensive jokes possible but you're dressed as cross between a music hall comic and a circus clown, so it's actually ironic, anyway here's a piano interlude**.

Gervais has just managed to reinvent that without the hat and jacket and piano. Honk honk.

*which my phone autocorrected to white, which also works
**the song is also racist

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