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Part of me wonders how much of it is Mahomes being too positive in the off-season with the WR room talent. I can see him standing up for the guys saying “we have who we need” over and over because that’s been the mantra during the off-season and this season. Turns out, no you don’t.
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Pron on VHS posted:MVS played 60 snaps and didn’t have a catch. Taking over Skyy Moores role. I have to keep reminding myself that this is not a bad team. It's just good in a way that we are not used to since Mahomes got here. And not good enough probably for a SB run to be sure, but they're still okish. The defense plays their rear end off, they should have won that game. The offense is not actually all that bad but repeatedly shoots themselves in the foot and Mahomes is trying to hard to make things happen and loving it up, partially when receivers aren't where they should be and partially just trying to hero ball. Which is not a good combination. WR's aside I'm not a fan of the OL this year even aside from Taylor which is a completely disastrous signing and he's going to be around for a while. But the interior guys aren't as good as they were either. I'd like to see Nagy gone after the season is over and hopefully he never coaches again until he gets his head right. That stupid trick play on your own 12 yard line was not necessary. Everything is short to the flats from a gameplan perspective unless Mahomes dodges a sack and finds someone intermediate. It's just frustrating.
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So how much of an effect did Bienemy actually have on the offense??
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Flikken posted:So how much of an effect did Bienemy actually have on the offense?? Didn't he not call plays in KC? Because Washington's offense is middling
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Calidus posted:The chiefs winning the Super Bowl, Kelce retires and the front office puts an even more anemic WR room together would be a really funny timeline. Think about how funny that would be if they didn't even win a playoff game.
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You got so many little things it’s hard to figure out cause and effect: - Naggy vs Bienemy - Kelce not playing like a good TE and not someone in GOAT conversation - A WR that doesn’t have a clear WR1, JuJu can’t get on field for pats which makes this even weirder - Two new tackles who don’t seem significantly better than last year? - A front office that looked like geniuses for trading Hill and winning a superbowl Can Chiefs get Mahomes on one of those Ohtani contracts with a bunch of deferred money that will get swapped for ownership in a decade?
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Simplex posted:Think about how funny that would be if they didn't even win a playoff game. Let the bills get their revenge game this year, is perfectly fine with me.
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Calidus posted:Can Chiefs get Mahomes on one of those Ohtani contracts with a bunch of deferred money that will get swapped for ownership in a decade? I get this is a joke but they specifically cannot due to NFL rules or they probably would. He owns part of the Royals and both local soccer teams, he'd be interested in that.
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Calidus posted:- Kelce not playing like a good TE and not someone in GOAT conversation Let's not go too far. He's had 924 yards in the season so far and will finish top 2 in TE yardage on the season. He's just not hitting the GOAT heights of a couple of years back as he's slower and getting triple covered through the game, because when he isn't he's still finding soft spots to get receptions. Calidus posted:Can Chiefs get Mahomes on one of those Ohtani contracts with a bunch of deferred money that will get swapped for ownership in a decade? No. But the Chiefs can restructure up to $34 million off next years cap hit of $57 million if they wanted to. With another $12 million saved by kicking MVS out the door, there's plenty of room to upgrade if they find the right trade/FA. Veach's stinginess and relative draft success over the last couple of years gives the Chiefs a surprising amount of wriggle room.
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They have 48M in cap space next year with only cutting MVS. 96M the following year. They’ll make some moves. Jawaan Taylor can’t be until 2025. Cutting Toney gets you nothing. Skyy gets you 800k. Watson gets you 2M. I’d probably only keep Watson.
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Just remembered that photo of Russ and Ciara where she looks like a statue from an art museum and he looks like he's drunk and just shat his pants. Bring the Chargers back to San Diego.
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Pron on VHS posted:MVS played 60 snaps and didn’t have a catch. Taking over Skyy Moores role. https://x.com/geoffschwartz/status/1739988705136242837?s=20
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Dam Broncos might actually cut Russ and take the cap hit in 24 and 25. $35 million and $45 million in dead cap is brutal.
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Calidus posted:Dam Broncos might actually cut Russ and take the cap hit in 24 and 25. $35 million and $45 million in dead cap is brutal. It's okay, clearly we will draft a miraculous rookie who will be superior to Russ in every way. Clearly.
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Calidus posted:You got so many little things it’s hard to figure out cause and effect:
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LiquidFriend posted:They are mostly tired and uninterested. The unit as a whole just doesn't give any sort of fucks right now. Sounds like whoever is coaching them isn't doing his job
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Some fuckin' Walmart grade management of a football team.
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Fat Jesus posted:Sounds like whoever is coaching them isn't doing his job Yeah. Andy should probably start jumping their asses and come up with some better gameplans. Having MVS with over 80% of the snaps when Patrick doesn't even look at him makes no sense.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Some fuckin' Walmart grade management of a football team. Seemingly cheap but will pay off in the long run?
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Name Change posted:Russ gets sacked way too much, but the Broncos could easily win out against the Chargers and Raiders even with Maxx Crosby feasting, and give themselves a good chance at the playoff plinko board that lies before them. They have a 5% chance.
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a neat cape posted:They have a 5% chance. Stuff they need to happen this week to stay alive for wild card for next week: They win against Chargers Pats beat Bills Seahawks beat Steelers Chiefs beat Bengals Titans beat Texans Panthers beat Jaguars Raiders beat Colts The least-likely parts are the Pats and the Panthers, but even the Panthers have help now that Trevor Bust is out. But yeah, they are not only still alive for a wild card spot, they're still alive for the division (yeah it is weird but the Chiefs mathematically help them out via a win or loss https://broncoswire.usatoday.com/lists/can-the-denver-broncos-still-make-nfl-playoffs-week-17/)
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Courtland Sutton is in concussion protocol, and it's looking unlikely he plays. A Russ-led offense ain't scoring any points, so even beating the Chargers would be a tall order. You know, I don't care about the Broncos trying to strong arm Russ into making a dumb decision. I don't care that he wisely said gently caress that. It just seems dumb and counterproductive for Sean Payton to lie about the situation. Like hey, if you tell the truth everybody is going to think you're an rear end in a top hat. But if you lie, the truth is going to come out and everybody is going to think you're a liar and an rear end in a top hat.
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Simplex posted:even beating the Chargers would be a tall order. They already did it once this month with Russ. Wasn't even close either
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Kull the Conqueror posted:This is beyond lame. They’re basically confessing that they’re not going to try for the next two seasons I think they're gonna draft a QB and hope to god it's a hit, if not, punt punt punt
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Kull the Conqueror posted:This is beyond lame. They’re basically confessing that they’re not going to try for the next two seasons Russ is somewhere between average and bad and trending downward athletically, and keeping him means it’s real awkward to try anyone else at the position. Also the contract is weird and while cutting him now is rough cap-wise it’s worse if they keep him from what I understand? He also doesn’t throw to the middle of the field and Payton needs his slant guy
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Kull the Conqueror posted:This is beyond lame. They’re basically confessing that they’re not going to try for the next two seasons Trying to get rid of Russ ASAP seems like the opposite of “not trying.”
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3 DONG HORSE posted:I think they're gonna draft a QB and hope to god it's a hit, if not, punt punt punt They've done too good to have a great shot at the draft even if they don't make playoffs or win their division (which to be clear, they can still do both), they don't have the assets to trade up with another QB-needy team, and the '25 draft looks worse for prospects than this one does Like genuinely moving on from Russ would have been a great idea to do...5 or 6 months ago That's what's killing me. If this was the plan last year, when he was clearly sucking, when the deal still looked bad and everyone was making fun of it, when they had half as many wins, great. No argument. Get rid of him, bench him and tank. If you're punting on the year, you have a great and obvious chance to do so at the start of this season that nobody would bat an eye at
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Chris James 2 posted:They've done too good to have a great shot at the draft even if they don't make playoffs or win their division (which to be clear, they can still do both), they don't have the assets to trade up with another QB-needy team, and the '25 draft looks worse for prospects than this one does They just lost to the Pats. They suck. The defense isn’t living off of unsustainable turnover luck and they’re back to giving up too many points for the offense to overcome. Russ is still extremely limited and takes way too many sacks. If they somehow managed to luck into the playoffs they aren’t going to go on a run with him. If they’ve decided to cut bait there’s no point in continuing to play him. If they thought he was a good player they wouldn’t be trying to get rid of him. Why keep playing the guy you don’t want and don’t think is good?
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He's tied for 6th in TD passes and only has 8 picks though. He might not be exactly what Payton wants in a QB but if that's how he feels then it should've been dealt with in the off-season. They have too many wins for a blue chip QB prospect and not enough draft capital or players outside of probably just PS2 to make a move for one. As a fan, if my team is still mathematically in the playoff hunt with 2 games to go then they need to try. Anything can happen in single game elimination so giving up now is some weak rear end bullshit and whoever actually made that call should be fired for making it. I should be happy about it because it actually gives my team a better playoff shot playing a Broncos team with a worse QB but it just really bothers me.
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Chris James 2 posted:They already did it once this month with Russ. Wasn't even close either I think you are underestimating how much the Bronco's offense revolves around Russ just hucking it deep to Sutton and hoping he makes a circus catch. Like that Week 14 game was 10-0, with the Broncos lone touchdown coming on a 3-yard drive, until late in the 3rd when Sutton made that ridiculous one handed grab for a TD.
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Simplex posted:I think you are underestimating how much the Bronco's offense revolves around Russ just hucking it deep to Sutton and hoping he makes a circus catch. Like that Week 14 game was 10-0, with the Broncos lone touchdown coming on a 3-yard drive, until late in the 3rd when Sutton made that ridiculous one handed grab for a TD. Yes, Russell Wilson does indeed do Russell Wilson Bullshit, it's his defining trait as a QB and always has been
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Simplex posted:But if you lie, the truth is going to come out and everybody is going to think you're a liar and an rear end in a top hat. To some extent if you were paying attention I think this has already happened to Sean Payton. And he made it through for better or worse, so might as well run it back pretending that Jarrett Stidham gives him a chance to win games.
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