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Das Boo posted:A little late, but I do not like Alan Moore's work altogether. It's very edgy teen boy, I hate the way he writes women, and I extra hate that he has become the gold standard of Western "adult" comics. That said his Superman and Swamp Thing work holds up very well considering, although you wouldn't mistake either for literature. vegetables posted:I didn’t see The Princess Bride until my 20s and I thought it was great; now that everything is quite edgy and ironic I was taken aback by how sincere it was— so it felt very fresh to me, like someone had come along with this new wholesome way of making movies The Princess Bride is not trying to be anything more than a lighthearted romance with some family-friendly wordplay and the cast all seems to be having a wonderful time. It's cheesy and it's kind-of dumb, but it's not braindead and stuffed to the brim with capitalist horseshit like its successor series Shrek is. Don't be a joyless gently caress just because every theater kid who was too nerdy to perform overquoted it in high school. SweetMercifulCrap! posted:I like the idea of Goonies, but I hated it even as a kid, because the kids in the film just never stop screaming and yelling at each other. Deep Glove Bruno posted:only gonna allow my kid to watch Fata Morgana and Aguirre the Wrath of God when he hits 7, just to be sure
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I think if anything Alan Moore is underrated, but also agree his writing of women and about women is beyond awful; really, really grim stuff. Watchmen is really, really good, though. I will defend that book at length if I am forced to. I think it’s the best work I have read about having to be a human in a world with apocalyptic weapons, and I think it does transcend the superhero discourse it can get trapped in
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Princess Bride is fine, inoffensive movie for kids with an inexplicably terrible soundtrack by non other than Mark Knopfler. It's like he forgot it was due until the night before or something.
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Dec 27, 2023 17:34
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A lot of modern comedy shows - The Office, Parks and Rec, Superstore, etc. Copy and paste the same character tropes into different situations with awkward humor and trying (and failing) to be The Naked Gun. I don't understand what anyone sees in any of those shows. Star Trek Generations. It's very clear that they started with "Kirk and Picard go on an adventure together!" and hastily built a rickety foundation around that (thin) premise. Generations has its moments - I do like how it actually advances the arcs of TNG characters - but it's just not a very good movie. Better than Into Darkness, though. Blow-Up. I watched this with my Dad because he was studying Italian years back and wanted to learn by watching movies in Italian. Turns out this one was in English. Why is this considered a masterpiece? A weird looking guy (looks like Charlie X as an adult) spends an entire movie mooning over photos of a dead body he took in a park. Hijinx (?) ensues and are supposed to be "Deep, maaaan". Stupid. Bullshit. Inexplicably praised as "deep" for babies who think that getting stoned and speculating about the universe actually being the toenail of a massive giant is mind blowing. F_Shit_Fitzgerald fucked around with this message at 18:19 on Dec 27, 2023 |
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Dec 27, 2023 18:01
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Even if you like the humor, Parks and Rec is hard to watch now because it reeks of hopelessly naive early-Obama-era optimism
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Dec 27, 2023 18:04
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Even Alan Moore likes to put a woman in a refrigerator from time to time. gently caress that guy.
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Zugzwang posted:Even if you like the humor, Parks and Rec is hard to watch now because it reeks of hopelessly naive early-Obama-era optimism I definitely feel that way about portlandia. That show is probably going to end up being really dating no matter what anyway.
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Zugzwang posted:Even if you like the humor, Parks and Rec is hard to watch now because it reeks of hopelessly naive early-Obama-era optimism Oh yeah visiting DC and meeting wacky friend of women’s rights Senator Orrin Hatch. Dang It Bhabhi! posted:Even Alan Moore likes to put a woman in a refrigerator from time to time. gently caress that guy. It’s weird how common that still is in even in newer media. Deadpool 2 had that in an opening scene & The Killer has a girlfriend whose only purpose is to be beaten to motivate the protagonist.
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Women in refrigerators reminds me; Final Fantasy XVI loving sucks dude. It gets wrapped up trying to depict socio political themes about war and slavery that it doesn’t loving understand at all and the three women in the game are written so badly it’s just straight up misogynist. One is a waifish princess love interest who sits by and does nothing, one is cartoonishly evil, and the last one gets naked a couple times, then gets sexually assaulted, then the player just puts her out of her misery instead of doing anything to help. I don’t care if the combat is good now, for a game made in 2023 it’s loving embarrassing.
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Arson Daily posted:Princess Bride is fine, inoffensive movie for kids with an inexplicably terrible soundtrack by non other than Mark Knopfler. It's like he forgot it was due until the night before or something. Hyrax Attack! posted:It’s weird how common that still is in even in newer media. Deadpool 2 had that in an opening scene & The Killer has a girlfriend whose only purpose is to be beaten to motivate the protagonist. Dang It Bhabhi! posted:Even Alan Moore likes to put a woman in a refrigerator from time to time. gently caress that guy. mind the walrus fucked around with this message at 19:08 on Dec 27, 2023 |
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Dec 27, 2023 18:39
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I'll bet it's been mentioned already: Avatar (2009). I don't hate it but I was very disappointed in the one-dimensionality of the villains. Titanic. I've never even seen the drat film but gently caress them very much for making My Heart Will Go On a thing. You could not escape that loving song in 1997, and I still have a passionate hatred for it (and the film that made it famous). But I mean....it's the Titanic. Spoiler alert: the loving tub sinks at the end. What else is there to see except disaster porn? F_Shit_Fitzgerald fucked around with this message at 18:50 on Dec 27, 2023 |
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Dec 27, 2023 18:47
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Cameron has taken points from substance and put it into showmanship early on but the balance has gone off the rails since Titanic. Kubrick was the only other Great Filmmaker as unconcerned with the stories of actual human beings.
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Dec 27, 2023 18:51
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If Titanic told stories, both tragic and hopeful, of a variety of characters, it could have been so much more compelling, but it had to be yet another tale of doomed romance between people from opposite lifestyles. Yawn.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:I'll bet it's been mentioned already: Avatar (2009). I don't hate it but I was very disappointed in the one-dimensionality of the villains. I didn't want to see the film because of that drat song, it felt like it was in every preview & on top of it my mom was a massive Celine Dion fan then. I still remember my girlfriend & some of her high school friends talking about seeing the movie dozens of times, as if that was some kind of accomplishment. Only small clip I ever recall watching was the guy who fell off the boat & smacked the propeller, that scene STILL makes me howl with laughter.
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vegetables posted:I didn’t see The Princess Bride until my 20s and I thought it was great; now that everything is quite edgy and ironic I was taken aback by how sincere it was— so it felt very fresh to me, like someone had come along with this new wholesome way of making movies I think this is an accurate and succinct description of why it's so beloved, which is something that absolutely fails to come across when you see a bunch of nerds yelling INCONCEIVABLE! all the time.
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I don't like Always Sunny. It's not fun to watch lovely people being lovely, no matter how ironic it is. I realized this while trying to watch Mythic Quest recently and realizing I didn't like it either. I just don't want to watch people be scumbags to each other
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There's a craftsmanship to portraying lovely people that I respect Always Sunny for doing a lot better than other sitcoms about horrible people, but I can't say I've ever enjoyed a single episode.
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Just snuck that “Kubrick was a hack” by yall but just got a tacit  from the crowd. I’ll take it.
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:Cameron has taken points from substance and put it into showmanship early on but the balance has gone off the rails since Titanic. Kubrick was the only other Great Filmmaker as unconcerned with the stories of actual human beings. Maybe George Lucas too? Tried to watch American Graffiti hoping it would be from when he was still trying but just dull 50s nostalgia. Was starting to warm up to Avatar 2 but dang it, just keeps going & it’s odd when he takes a decade to make each film and instead of focusing on the interesting human colonization gonna take a long detour to affirm whaling is bad. Also after seeing Persona 5 topping so many review charts decided to give it a go, very repetitive & railroaded plot. Had inconsistent tone like the first story is to defeat a lecherous high school coach, with the option of having the high school girl on your team dress as a French maid. I mean I know games like that have existed forever but didn’t think they’d be getting so many 10/10s. Not trying to be puritanical but felt like MGSV’s sniper character who you see, breathes through her skin & therefore must wear as little as possible would you like to zoom in?, and dammit I’m here for the mechs & stealth. Did enjoy doing tasks at the coffee shop and the batting cage & it was impressive for a Switch game but didn’t stick with it. Hyrax Attack! fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Dec 27, 2023 |
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It took Cameron until the 2020s to discover that whaling is bad? Star Trek IV made that point perfectly back in 1986. e: I have a love/hate relationship with BSG. On one hand, Richard Hatch got a chance to play a character in the remastered series (one completely different from the one in the original series) and did a great job. The board game associated with the series is fun and my circle of friends have made a lot of great memories over the past 10-12 years playing it. But aside from a few notable exceptions (Baltar, Zarek, maybe Dualla and Billy), all the humans are pretty detestable. I guess that's supposed to be The Point; BSG is very much a product of its post-9/11 Hard Men Making Hard Decisions after space 9/11 era, but these genocidal freaks are supposed to be the good guys? F_Shit_Fitzgerald fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Dec 27, 2023 |
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Dang It Bhabhi! posted:Just snuck that “Kubrick was a hack” by yall but just got a tacit
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I really love a lot of Kubrick films but gently caress that guy for how he treated Shelley Duvall.
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No art is worth human suffering. gently caress all film directors tbh.
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Kit Walker posted:Stuff about JJK The ship on this discussion has long since sailed away, but to round it off one last time, I think the biggest red flag for myself is that it doesn't feel like it really has its own 'voice' or personality, it's really just an amalgamation of what it's predecessors have already done and sort of just blended it together. Is it Bleach? Is it Naruto? We don't know and neither does the creator! At least those series had a distinctive personality to their brand, the Juju kind of Frankensteins itself into its success but doesn't really have the content quality to back it up. It's fine I guess? I suppose something has to fill the void ever since those series wrapped up, but it would do that series a world of good if they spent more time fleshing the ecology of things out over the creator's OC knockoffs of characters from those other series.
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And now for something completely different! It's not that I hate her; I'm apathetic: Kim or any of the other Kardashians. I'm not exaggerating or being melodramatic when I say that I just do not understand who these people are, what they've done (if anything) to become famous, or why I should give a rat's loving rear end (I don't). T Swift has her (rabid-rear end, close-to- cultish) fans and haters, but at least Swift has/ seems to have some legit talent. I can't think of a more quintessential example of "famous for being famous" than the Kardashians. F_Shit_Fitzgerald fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Dec 27, 2023 |
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:And now for something completely different! One of them had sex with a musician on the internet. So I guess you could say she’s an actress?
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A lot of people just really love to worship wealthy people it's kind of gross
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Zugzwang posted:Love Actually is insanely popular but is pretty bad in a lot of ways. Most of the "love" in it is "I think this person is really hot." Some of that is downright creepy, like the guy who was supposedly in love with his best friend's wife (Kiera Knightley's character) yet had never even talked to her. You don't love someone you've never had a single conversation with, duder. It's a pretty mean spirited movie in the way that pretty much most pop-culture was around the early 2000s, like the conversation the dopey guy has in his van is pretty much just red-pill incel poo poo. It's biggest crime for me is that is that it asks me to root for a Prime Minister. If you are Prime Minister, you are not a good person. You do not get that job by being a good person. The power dynamic of him fancying his housekeeper aside, the movie opens with a monologue that mentions 9/11 and how the messages sent on that day were messages or love (putting aside the decades or seething hate and cruelty we've had since). Like, when the US president visits, they're talking about invading Iraq, right? They must be. And the only thing that stops Hugh Grant from getting involved is he's jealous that the President was more brazen in his abuse of interpersonal power. gently caress Richard Curtis, actually. Yeah, even Blackadder. It has its moments, but the most boring people out there are calling people things like "a turgid rice pudding" because of loving Blackadder. Disco Pope fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Dec 28, 2023 |
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Zugzwang posted:Even if you like the humor, Parks and Rec is hard to watch now because it reeks of hopelessly naive early-Obama-era optimism The late season obsession with worshipping mediocre-to-awful politicians is almost as bad as Tom Haverford being the least funny character in sitcom history.
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deep dish peat moss posted:A lot of people just really love to worship wealthy people it's kind of gross
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Love Actually is a good one yeah. The whole thing is loathsome.
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I know I mentioned Blackadder earlier, but I tend to find if someone is into one, maybe two of these, they're okay, but after that they kind of become multipliers that suggest... not a lack of taste, exactly, because that can be fun, but an adherence to a kind of blandness. Dr Who, Blackadder, Sherlock, anything with David Mitchell, Taskmaster, The Inbetweeners. There's something that's sadder about someone who kind of watches TV that isn't bad, but won't seek out things that they might love than someone who just watches poo poo constantly.
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I have never ever laughed at Seinfeld
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Ratios and Tendency posted:Love Actually is a good one yeah. The whole thing is loathsome. Watching Love Actually and Die Hard back to back this year, it was interesting that Alan Rickman is actually the bigger oval office in the former.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:And now for something completely different! She got her level of fame because dipshit Americans spent way too much time wanting to get windmills dunks on her antics to feel better about themselves, as far as I know nobody sincerely likes that family. Problem is they kept doing this for so long that they ended up boosting her stardom to icon level status for the 2010's, and by the time they came around to this realization it was way too late to turn the ship around 
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I have seen every episode of the Kardashian shows and am totally fascinated by their banality and emptiness and purposelessness. Nothing ever really happens.
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nothing shocking but I never got the appeal of harry potter. like that magic school sounds like the dumbest place for the dumbest people. And they have magic powers. People have analyzed it a billion times but it's the exact place/narrative where I'd root for the bad guys.
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temple posted:nothing shocking but I never got the appeal of harry potter. like that magic school sounds like the dumbest place for the dumbest people. And they have magic powers. People have analyzed it a billion times but it's the exact place/narrative where I'd root for the bad guys. I never read a single page of it or watched a movie, but I am also all about rooting for people that like it. Yay!
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When someone in 2023 still goes to bat for Harry Potter I can safely presume one of four things with escalating likelihood going down: 1. They're a loving imbecile 2. They call themselves Liberal but they're really Conservative and don't know it yet 3. They're NeoFascist and want to know who is on their sports team because Rowling "hates the right people" 4. They work for Time Warner/NBC Universal
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My wife, who read all the HP and saw the movies, just ripped on other nurses in her department who "sit around figuring out what Hogwarts house they're in when I need help" the other day. I loled
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