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Spaced God
Feb 8, 2014

All torment, trouble, wonder and amazement
Inhabits here: some heavenly power guide us
Out of this fearful country!



Toop morning

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Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Louisgod posted:

2024 is going to be extremely funny

WrasslorMonkey
Mar 5, 2012

lumpentroll posted:

what power do you think rereg guy has

I assume he has a spreadsheet with the amount of time until he gets a probation/ban for each account. He has literally mentioned the amount of time until a previous account was probated in the past.

He likely thinks he can use that to show how he is being oppressed and/or ripped off by not being allowed to get his money's worth.

Yikes, just typing that out made me feel bad for him. Yeah get help dude, and maybe talk to a lawyer so they can tell you this is a really dumb plan.

WoodrowSkillson
Feb 24, 2005

*Gestures at 60 years of Lions history*

Bearjew posted:

first day of work in 2024. gently caress off

same we are back in the office on Tuesdays and Wednesdays so starting off with a kick in the nuts

holtemon
May 2, 2019

Dancing is forbidden
Wait why are we mad at Liz Cheney?

She's a private citizen now lol

WrasslorMonkey
Mar 5, 2012

holtemon posted:

Wait why are we mad at Liz Cheney?

She's a private citizen now lol

Yeah, Trump is usually quick to let things go.

the milk machine
Jul 23, 2002

lick my keys

lumpentroll posted:

what power do you think rereg guy has

certainly not the power to ever make a good post

mags
May 30, 2008

I am a congenital optimist.
the plan is gonna work and rereg guy will sit enthroned like Riddick after defeating Jeffery in mortal legal combat

Sherbert Hoover
Dec 12, 2019

Working hard, thank you!

the milk machine posted:

certainly not the power to ever make a good post

:eyepop:

Hatebag
Jun 17, 2008


mags posted:

the plan is gonna work and rereg guy will sit enthroned like Riddick after defeating Jeffery in mortal legal combat

yep, he will be our new god

Red Baron
Mar 9, 2007

ty slumfrog :)

lumpentroll posted:

what power do you think rereg guy has

none but someone suggested it was the lawsuit guy who (wrongly, as they have a mental disorder) believes that by giving the site money they will be owed something in return.

Red Baron
Mar 9, 2007

ty slumfrog :)

WrasslorMonkey posted:

I assume he has a spreadsheet with the amount of time until he gets a probation/ban for each account. He has literally mentioned the amount of time until a previous account was probated in the past.

He likely thinks he can use that to show how he is being oppressed and/or ripped off by not being allowed to get his money's worth.

Yikes, just typing that out made me feel bad for him. Yeah get help dude, and maybe talk to a lawyer so they can tell you this is a really dumb plan.

lmao holy poo poo it looks so much worse with detail.

what is it about this website that breaks so many minds?

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

holtemon posted:

Wait why are we mad at Liz Cheney?

She's a private citizen now lol

she deleted the server OP

Red Baron
Mar 9, 2007

ty slumfrog :)
you can just come here for the funny pictures or LPs, it doesn’t have to be a posting thunderdome.

holtemon
May 2, 2019

Dancing is forbidden

Red Baron posted:

lmao holy poo poo it looks so much worse with detail.

what is it about this website that breaks so many minds?

toop mostly

Harton
Jun 13, 2001

Red Baron posted:

lmao holy poo poo it looks so much worse with detail.

what is it about this website that breaks so many minds?

too many nerds in one place I think

historically it’s never worked out well when you cram this many loving nerds together.

erosion
Dec 21, 2002

It's true and I'm tired of pretending it isn't

lumpentroll posted:

rereg guy is cumshitter

No... NO!!

UFOTacoMan
Sep 22, 2005

Thanks easter bunny!
bok bok!

WrasslorMonkey posted:

Yeah, Trump is usually quick to let things go.

Donald Trump: "That's OK, don't worry about it, I completely forgot about it anyway."

WrasslorMonkey
Mar 5, 2012

UFOTacoMan posted:

Donald Trump: "That's OK, don't worry about it, I completely forgot about it anyway."

"You have earthquakes in India where 400,000 people get killed. Honestly, it doesn't matter."

Just the most chill, laid-back, relaxed dude in probably all of history.

BoothBaberGinsburg
Jan 4, 2021

Bearjew posted:

first day of work in 2024. gently caress off

Greg Legg
Oct 6, 2004

holtemon posted:

Wait why are we mad at Liz Cheney?

She's a private citizen now lol

Her father is Dick Cheney and that guy is evil.

Sherbert Hoover
Dec 12, 2019

Working hard, thank you!

holtemon posted:

Wait why are we mad at Liz Cheney?

She's a private citizen now lol

so is alec and that doesn't stop him from being persecuted :colbert:

UFOTacoMan
Sep 22, 2005

Thanks easter bunny!
bok bok!
*NPR-ishly*

10 questions for 2024 and politics

Whether you're excited or dreading it, this is a presidential election year, and voting for party nominees starts in less than two weeks.

Here are 10 questions about what could determine who the next president will be:

1. Do perceptions of the economy improve?
It's the top issue for voters, and they are in a bad mood about it. Polls continue to show Americans are pessimistic about the state of the economy despite strong signs – solid growth, low unemployment and declining inflation. But food prices and mortgage rates are higher than people would like, and the blame is landing on President Biden. His ratings for handling the economy are low, and it's a major potential hindrance to his reelection chances. A president has little control over the economy, but his team has to hope that unemployment remains low and inflation recedes enough to give the Federal Reserve confidence to loosen its belt.

2. Does abortion retain its salience?
This is the first presidential election since the Dobbs decision. Democrats have had success in every election since, even in red states.
Expect Democrats to do everything possible to use the issue to motivate voters to go to the polls, especially as Republican-governed states continue to pass restrictions.

3. How do the situations in Ukraine and Israel change?
Perceptions of how Biden is handling foreign policy have hurt his presidency. When it comes to Israel, in particular, the war has fractured the Democratic base.
Biden is struggling with younger voters and non-whites are also less likely to want a response that is strongly pro-Israel. Those are both key Democratic constituents, but so are Jewish Americans, who have historically voted overwhelmingly with Democrats.

4. Do younger voters rally to Biden's side despite misgivings — or not?
Israel's war with Hamas, voting rights, student loans have all been areas of frustration for younger voters with Biden.
Biden's approval ratings with younger Americans have been lagging. Biden was never a favorite of younger voters, many of whom held their nose to vote for Biden to oust former President Donald Trump from office.
Expect the Biden campaign to remind those voters of what they don't like about Trump.

5. Do third-party candidates gain real traction and become the 2024 wild card?
This is a major wild card and something that keeps Democratic strategists up at night.
People like anti-vaccine, environmentalist Robert F. Kennedy Jr; former Green Party spoiler Jill Stein; and professor Cornel West are running, and there could be a No Labels candidate. No one is quite sure how they will factor in, but Trump has a pretty firm base of voters.
Democrats worry that disaffected voters, who would have chosen Biden over Trump, could vote for one of these others and open a path for Trump back to the White House. After all, remember, Trump did not get above 47% in either 2016 or 2020. A third-party that pulls votes from Biden would help open a path for Trump back to the White House.

6. Can Haley or DeSantis actually give Trump a run — or does Trump wrap up the primary quickly?
They've been decided underdogs. It's time to see whether one of them actually has the goods when voters vote.
To this point, Trump has led by huge margins in the polls and so much of what's been the focus has really been on the race for second place.
Iowa kicks off voting Jan. 15, followed by New Hampshire Jan. 23. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has staked a claim in Iowa and former Trump U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley has done the same in New Hampshire. Let's see if they've done enough to convince voters to go with them instead of Trump.

7. Do Trump's trials wind up mattering — if not for Republican primary voters but for persuadable ones in a general election?
Most Republicans may think Trump is being persecuted, but independents and Democrats think he did something wrong.
So far, these trials have only helped him in the primary with base voters who believe him, but that's not likely going to be the case with persuadable, general-election voters, who have pretty negative views of Trump.
There could be a situation where Trump is on trial during a general election. Georgia, for example, has proposed a start date for example of Aug. 5 with cameras in the courtroom. It's hard to see how an O.J. Simpson-style trial helps Trump in a general election. Of course, this is someone who has always believed it's better to be in the spotlight than not.

8. How will attrition among election officials affect vote counting in states?
This is a serious issue. The thing that has always distinguished the United States from other countries is how well run, clean and efficient elections are run here.
Trump's election lies made it more difficult for many of the elections officials. They faced threats and lawsuits and many decided to leave their posts rather than face what they've faced. That's a lot of institutional knowledge that's walked out the door, and there's no telling what that will mean for the vote count.

9. Do democratic institutions again hold?
The reason Trump's attempts to stay in power did not work is because institutions, like those election officials across the country, Congress and the courts held and did their jobs.
But they've been targeted in a three-year campaign by Trump and allies. He's installed more loyalists in his campaign and state parties, and there are fewer Republicans in Congress willing to stand up to Trump.
Just two of the 10 Republicans who voted for Trump's impeachment after Jan. 6 are still in office, for example.

10. Which winds up mattering more: frustrations with how Biden is doing his job (and his age), or the negative views of Trump?
This is maybe the most critical question of this presidential election.
Most voters say Biden, 81, is too old to be president, and they give him low approval ratings, but they also really don't like Trump, who isn't so far off in age at 77.
Democrats will surely spend millions to wipe away voters' Trump "brain fog," as Pennsylvania Democratic Gov. Josh Shapiro called it, to remind them of Trump's views, many of which have been increasingly anti-democratic on the campaign trail.

Which of those weighs out could determine who is the next president.

mdemone
Mar 14, 2001

that's an awful lot of uses of the word "matter"

William Bear
Oct 26, 2012

"That's what they all say!"
Let me rewrite that so that goons can understand the crux of it:

1. Will things matter, or will they continue not to matter?

Harton
Jun 13, 2001

Sherbert Hoover posted:

so is alec and that doesn't stop him from being persecuted :colbert:

drat I don’t think Alec listened to my song


sad!

the milk machine
Jul 23, 2002

lick my keys

William Bear posted:

Let me rewrite that so that goons can understand the crux of it:

1. Will things matter, or will they continue not to matter?

2. TRUMP

bird with big dick
Oct 21, 2015

Real Mean Queen posted:

I think the only thing I know about Tiffany is “like a bird”

I really liked “I think we’re alone now” but for decades I thought she wrote it, I was real surprised to learn it was a cover of some old band.

Greg Legg
Oct 6, 2004
When Donald Trump is reelected he should throw the entire Cheney family in jail.

WrasslorMonkey
Mar 5, 2012

like a bird with big dick

Red Baron
Mar 9, 2007

ty slumfrog :)

Sherbert Hoover posted:

so is alec and that doesn't stop him from being persecuted :colbert:

in only the loosest sense was anything about Alec private.

Aino Minako
Dec 16, 2007

Perpetual rage elemental



UFOTacoMan posted:

*NPR-ishly*

10 questions for 2024 and politics

Whether you're excited or dreading it, this is a presidential election year, and voting for party nominees starts in less than two weeks.

Here are 10 questions about what could determine who the next president will be:

1. Do perceptions of the economy improve?
It's the top issue for voters, and they are in a bad mood about it. Polls continue to show Americans are pessimistic about the state of the economy despite strong signs – solid growth, low unemployment and declining inflation. But food prices and mortgage rates are higher than people would like, and the blame is landing on President Biden. His ratings for handling the economy are low, and it's a major potential hindrance to his reelection chances. A president has little control over the economy, but his team has to hope that unemployment remains low and inflation recedes enough to give the Federal Reserve confidence to loosen its belt.

2. Does abortion retain its salience?
This is the first presidential election since the Dobbs decision. Democrats have had success in every election since, even in red states.
Expect Democrats to do everything possible to use the issue to motivate voters to go to the polls, especially as Republican-governed states continue to pass restrictions.

3. How do the situations in Ukraine and Israel change?
Perceptions of how Biden is handling foreign policy have hurt his presidency. When it comes to Israel, in particular, the war has fractured the Democratic base.
Biden is struggling with younger voters and non-whites are also less likely to want a response that is strongly pro-Israel. Those are both key Democratic constituents, but so are Jewish Americans, who have historically voted overwhelmingly with Democrats.

4. Do younger voters rally to Biden's side despite misgivings — or not?
Israel's war with Hamas, voting rights, student loans have all been areas of frustration for younger voters with Biden.
Biden's approval ratings with younger Americans have been lagging. Biden was never a favorite of younger voters, many of whom held their nose to vote for Biden to oust former President Donald Trump from office.
Expect the Biden campaign to remind those voters of what they don't like about Trump.

5. Do third-party candidates gain real traction and become the 2024 wild card?
This is a major wild card and something that keeps Democratic strategists up at night.
People like anti-vaccine, environmentalist Robert F. Kennedy Jr; former Green Party spoiler Jill Stein; and professor Cornel West are running, and there could be a No Labels candidate. No one is quite sure how they will factor in, but Trump has a pretty firm base of voters.
Democrats worry that disaffected voters, who would have chosen Biden over Trump, could vote for one of these others and open a path for Trump back to the White House. After all, remember, Trump did not get above 47% in either 2016 or 2020. A third-party that pulls votes from Biden would help open a path for Trump back to the White House.

6. Can Haley or DeSantis actually give Trump a run — or does Trump wrap up the primary quickly?
They've been decided underdogs. It's time to see whether one of them actually has the goods when voters vote.
To this point, Trump has led by huge margins in the polls and so much of what's been the focus has really been on the race for second place.
Iowa kicks off voting Jan. 15, followed by New Hampshire Jan. 23. Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis has staked a claim in Iowa and former Trump U.N. Ambassador Nikki Haley has done the same in New Hampshire. Let's see if they've done enough to convince voters to go with them instead of Trump.

7. Do Trump's trials wind up mattering — if not for Republican primary voters but for persuadable ones in a general election?
Most Republicans may think Trump is being persecuted, but independents and Democrats think he did something wrong.
So far, these trials have only helped him in the primary with base voters who believe him, but that's not likely going to be the case with persuadable, general-election voters, who have pretty negative views of Trump.
There could be a situation where Trump is on trial during a general election. Georgia, for example, has proposed a start date for example of Aug. 5 with cameras in the courtroom. It's hard to see how an O.J. Simpson-style trial helps Trump in a general election. Of course, this is someone who has always believed it's better to be in the spotlight than not.

8. How will attrition among election officials affect vote counting in states?
This is a serious issue. The thing that has always distinguished the United States from other countries is how well run, clean and efficient elections are run here.
Trump's election lies made it more difficult for many of the elections officials. They faced threats and lawsuits and many decided to leave their posts rather than face what they've faced. That's a lot of institutional knowledge that's walked out the door, and there's no telling what that will mean for the vote count.

9. Do democratic institutions again hold?
The reason Trump's attempts to stay in power did not work is because institutions, like those election officials across the country, Congress and the courts held and did their jobs.
But they've been targeted in a three-year campaign by Trump and allies. He's installed more loyalists in his campaign and state parties, and there are fewer Republicans in Congress willing to stand up to Trump.
Just two of the 10 Republicans who voted for Trump's impeachment after Jan. 6 are still in office, for example.

10. Which winds up mattering more: frustrations with how Biden is doing his job (and his age), or the negative views of Trump?
This is maybe the most critical question of this presidential election.
Most voters say Biden, 81, is too old to be president, and they give him low approval ratings, but they also really don't like Trump, who isn't so far off in age at 77.
Democrats will surely spend millions to wipe away voters' Trump "brain fog," as Pennsylvania Democratic Gov. Josh Shapiro called it, to remind them of Trump's views, many of which have been increasingly anti-democratic on the campaign trail.

Which of those weighs out could determine who is the next president.

Harton
Jun 13, 2001

bird with big dick posted:

I really liked “I think we’re alone now” but for decades I thought she wrote it, I was real surprised to learn it was a cover of some old band.

Tommy James and the Shondells

one of my old bands used to do a punk rock super fast version of “I think we’re alone now”

it was awesome

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Hatebag posted:

i recall some cryptic comment that implied he was spending a bunch of money as part of his lawsuit strategy. something like he thinks that if the website takes enough of his money he gets... more money? idk

dang, euphronius could take some pointers from this amazing legal mind

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

Bearjew posted:

first day of work in 2024. gently caress off

mistermojo
Jul 3, 2004

coming back to work not so tough since 'working' from home. but I'm already tired of it and dont want to do it

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


holtemon posted:

Wait why are we mad at Liz Cheney?

She's a private citizen now lol

Because she sat on the 1/6 commission, she's absolutely going into a camp somewhere once Trump's back in office

the milk machine
Jul 23, 2002

lick my keys

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

dang, euphronius could take some pointers from this amazing legal mind

euphorinus is numbers re reg guy's lawyer (bc he's also everyone in this thread's lawyer)

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


mistermojo posted:

coming back to work not so tough since 'working' from home. but I'm already tired of it and dont want to do it

My office is in Baltimore and I have never been there

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a helpful bear
Aug 18, 2004

Slippery Tilde
Trump please go on the debates. It's all I want out of politics right now

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