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bred posted:I had some throat irritation yesterday morning and increased irritation this morning. We rode bikes to the park and I was feeling a little more tired than usual. I used a Lucira test from the pile and it showed positive. The Lucira expired in October 2023 so I took a current Abbot test to confirm but it showed negative. My wife had a sore throat a week ago but never tested positive so I'm wondering if I have one of the not covid diseases. We want to play it safe. Family tested negative with current tests. I'm isolating in the bedroom wearing a vflex. I'm just sitting here with a laptop so I searched and do not see a date extension for the Lucira on https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/coronavirus-covid-19-and-medical-devices/home-otc-covid-19-diagnostic-tests. I'm having thoughts trying to rationalize a false positive: it was expired, the other test was negative, etc. but we'll stay isolating. As far as I know false negatives are very common and false positives are not and I've never read anything about expired tests having a higher false positive rate (if anything, the reverse). You do you in terms of the pax, as IANAD and can only speak for what I'd do (pax attax!) but if you are symptomatic and have one positive test I would assume that you do, in fact, have COVID. Sorry 
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bred posted:I had some throat irritation yesterday morning and increased irritation this morning. We rode bikes to the park and I was feeling a little more tired than usual. I used a Lucira test from the pile and it showed positive. The Lucira expired in October 2023 so I took a current Abbot test to confirm but it showed negative. My wife had a sore throat a week ago but never tested positive so I'm wondering if I have one of the not covid diseases. We want to play it safe. Family tested negative with current tests. I'm isolating in the bedroom wearing a vflex. I'm just sitting here with a laptop so I searched and do not see a date extension for the Lucira on https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/coronavirus-covid-19-and-medical-devices/home-otc-covid-19-diagnostic-tests. I'm having thoughts trying to rationalize a false positive: it was expired, the other test was negative, etc. but we'll stay isolating. You probably won't get a positive on a RAT for several more days. If you're able to, I'd suggest getting another Lucira, Metrix, etc. and retesting with that. The problem with just waiting for symptoms to worsen and then starting pax is that you might have RSV or flu or something instead of COVID. Cabbages and Kings posted:As far as I know false negatives are very common and false positives are not and I've never read anything about expired tests having a higher false positive rate (if anything, the reverse). Luciras do have a false positive failure mode that's higher than advertised, we had one in my house at one point.
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Jan 7, 2024 03:08
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I had one false positive lucira from a 2022 test and then I got a PCR to confirm it was definitely false a few days later.
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Jan 7, 2024 03:09
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It's  to me to be sitting here with (more significantly) shrieking ears, and at the same time having no idea if this will fade over the next ~9 months or not, but being very sure that numerous people early on in the pandemic assurred me that my concerns about this specific thing were based on my own fears and not the already-then-mounting pile of evidence that COVID can do fucky things to your ears.If this does end up just being my new normal, that's not great, but also makes me feel better about all the mitigation efforts we've taken and continue to, because we avoided the loving thing for a long time, so even if I'm More Forever hosed now, well, I got a couple extra years of less physical disability. I set up corsis in the house and I'm unboxing a rabbit air now but the main behavioral change I need to make is just fuckin masking up the second I get the sense any of the other 3 people I live with are even slightly off. That's still going to expose me to more risk than I like, but wearing an n95 every day around a seemingly healthy familty still feels like a bridge too far. If I get COVID again and end up too disabled to work, that's when I'll go full Howie Mandell  I realize how stupid and defeatist that sounds. If that poo poo happens I hope it just fuckin kills me because my family is way better insured against my fast death, than they would be against Slow Decline And Insanity! This post is intended to have the bite of dark comedy but if it just sucks I'll shut up or accept my sixer or w/e. gently caress. EEEEEEEREeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeEEEEEEE The Oldest Man posted:Luciras do have a false positive failure mode that's higher than advertised, we had one in my house at one point.
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Jan 7, 2024 03:11
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c&k do you know what pitch it is just curious more than anything I probably wouldn't have the fortitude to persist if I had tinnitus. you're doin ok, keep your family safe and keep on truckin.
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Jan 7, 2024 03:13
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Gunshow Poophole posted:c&k do you know what pitch it is It is a set of tones, pretty hard to pin down but generally in the 12-14khz range which shockingly is where I have a unilateral notch in my hearing! Had the poo poo since '99, got worse at an insanely loud concert I should have left in 2010. When it's the least bothersome it's a background hiss; at worst it's a foreground set of insane oscillating stereo effects. It's one of those things that's reeaaaallly down to how severe it is, and also how a person's brain interacts with it. When it's really bad and floats into hyperacusis territory (which has been a thing on and off lately, which is one way I know I'm having some issues because generally my sound tolerance has been fine for years) then it's basically a pain condition, and no one handles that too well. When it's "just" a noise, people like me with OCD and generalized issues with anxiety/fight-or-flight, tend to do a lot worse than people who are less inwardly fixated. I wish I didn't have it and I hope some of the space-tech in the works hits market soon; at the same time, I'm able to work, I'm able to enjoy time with my family and on my own, and that remains true to a somewhat lessened degree despite COVID bullshit so I'm just trying to stay COVID negative and disease negative and psychologically positive. "I want more time to make good on the promises that I made to the world, when the world was moving slower" as Justin Sullivan sang, so for the moment here I stay. Taking a low dose of mushrooms at the beginning of the week was subjectively unpleasant but left me feeling a lot more positive about all this stuff in the days to follow, so, given the way the research seems to be pointing, might repeat that little experiment. I'm also stacking up on the specific probiotic organisms that have shown up in research lately. Interestingly enough, some of those same probiotics are implicated in prior research specifically looking at tinnitus, because tinnitus has pretty clear neurological correlates in terms of lower GABA levels and serotonin signaling, and both of those things appear to be manipulated by Bifo (and lacto) bacteria. My tinnitus is also "weird" in that it can seem loving deafening, even in a relatively loud environment, but if I go to a quiet room and then rub my fingers together next to my ear, that quiet rubbing (ballkpark like 40-45db, this is used as an extremely crude test for severe hearing loss, as people with severe hearing loss cannot hear the rubbing) is louder than the ringing. But, you know, if I walk into Union Station at rush hour, the ringing seems to rise over the din. This is one reason I live in the middle of the woods, where there's basically no constant noise, and the intermittant redneck quartersticks tend to happen at certain hours and also not be much over 70db from my porch. Cabbages and VHS has issued a correction as of 03:30 on Jan 7, 2024 |
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Jan 7, 2024 03:27
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https://twitter.com/kenneth33071904/status/1743490236808830989?s=46&t=vNKUIzc4nvqsPFaYLiXegw
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Jan 7, 2024 03:29
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Thoguh posted:https://twitter.com/kenneth33071904/status/1743490236808830989?s=46&t=vNKUIzc4nvqsPFaYLiXegw and they say the Covid thread has no sense of humor.
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Jan 7, 2024 03:42
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Those poor phones 
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Jan 7, 2024 03:45
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Thoguh posted:https://twitter.com/kenneth33071904/status/1743490236808830989?s=46&t=vNKUIzc4nvqsPFaYLiXegw Fake news. It is not possible that it was under four hundred and twenty parts per million. Praise James Watt. 🙏
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Jan 7, 2024 03:46
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Platystemon posted:(..) Not accounting for air pressure difference at altitude. A shameful post. Who are you and what have you done to Platystemon?
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Jan 7, 2024 03:51
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Counterfeit fasteners have historically been one of the most profitable forms of conterfeiting and will probably continue to be so. Good QA programs just sort of assume they're a fact of life and have checks built into their procurement programs which you'd think would be a big part of the aviation industry but I guess they don't wanna spend that money. It's funny/sad that this has been a known thing for longer than most of us has been alive, like there was a 60 minutes or w/e news segment on them in the 70's for causing planes to just drop engines while flying and yet it's still a thing we just sort of live with despite there being pretty effective known countermeisures. We have the tools.
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Jan 7, 2024 03:55
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what if the tools are counterfeit
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Jan 7, 2024 04:01
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Steve Yun posted:wear a respirator, breathe through whatever hole you want 
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Jan 7, 2024 04:11
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Cabbages and Kings posted:As far as I know false negatives are very common and false positives are not and I've never read anything about expired tests having a higher false positive rate (if anything, the reverse). I got a false positive from a Lucira, and it wasn't even expired. Speaking of, looks like Lucira tests are back on the market for home users, but I think I'll stick to Metrix tests for the foreseeable future. Just can't beat $25 for a molecular.
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Jan 7, 2024 04:12
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spiritual bypass posted:what if the tools are counterfeit
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Jan 7, 2024 05:41
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bred posted:I had some throat irritation yesterday morning and increased irritation this morning. We rode bikes to the park and I was feeling a little more tired than usual. I used a Lucira test from the pile and it showed positive. The Lucira expired in October 2023 so I took a current Abbot test to confirm but it showed negative. My wife had a sore throat a week ago but never tested positive so I'm wondering if I have one of the not covid diseases. We want to play it safe. Family tested negative with current tests. I'm isolating in the bedroom wearing a vflex. I'm just sitting here with a laptop so I searched and do not see a date extension for the Lucira on https://www.fda.gov/medical-devices/coronavirus-covid-19-and-medical-devices/home-otc-covid-19-diagnostic-tests. I'm having thoughts trying to rationalize a false positive: it was expired, the other test was negative, etc. but we'll stay isolating. COVID-like symptoms AND a positive test of any kind? I'd be paxing up, no question, details be damned
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Jan 7, 2024 06:10
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Patient with covid GBS pronounced dead
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Jan 7, 2024 06:37
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Cabbages and Kings posted:Haha this is where I get to flex my esoteric chronically ill knowlege and Pro Lab Rat status a bit. I’ve had tinnitus since I was a kid, most likely related to my left eardrum getting perforated, but thankfully it’s mostly in the background for me and pretty high pitch. Kinda just the background eeeee of the universe for me, but I sympathize with folks like you who have it real bad. Tbh I’m suspecting it’s gotten slightly worse in my middle age but I try not to worry about it too much… anyway, I would be down to read more about this stuff if you made a thread!
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Jan 7, 2024 07:19
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 I claim fair use on this comic strip. In 1985, the alligator was an absurdity. “Nurses would not be casually reckless with the lives of infants in their care”, the reader would think. In 2024, the alligator is a metaphor for SARS‑CoV‑2.
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Jan 7, 2024 10:56
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Platystemon posted:
this metaphor fails because in the comic strip the nurse is making an effort to get rid of the alligator
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Jan 7, 2024 11:34
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Gunshow Poophole posted:I probably wouldn't have the fortitude to persist if I had tinnitus. you're doin ok, keep your family safe and keep on truckin. Cabbages and Kings posted:My tinnitus is also "weird" in that it can seem loving deafening, even in a relatively loud environment, but if I go to a quiet room and then rub my fingers together next to my ear, that quiet rubbing (ballkpark like 40-45db, this is used as an extremely crude test for severe hearing loss, as people with severe hearing loss cannot hear the rubbing) is louder than the ringing. But, you know, if I walk into Union Station at rush hour, the ringing seems to rise over the din.
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Jan 7, 2024 11:51
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Raskolnikov2089 posted:I got a false positive from a Lucira, and it wasn't even expired.
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Jan 7, 2024 12:13
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After having my tinnitus transform over time, I will say that it comes in many levels of style and severity, and some modes are much more unbearable than others. I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
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Jan 7, 2024 12:14
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I haven't been poking my head in much in the last year or so because I've still been bunkering down at home and, well, nothing's changed (keep wearing appropriate PPE in public, and don't share air with anybody outside my household), but, gently caress, I really need to vent, and I don't know of a better audience. I've been looking for a dentist for a while now, here around Seattle. I've gotten some good recommendations from folks, but the problem is, every time I look them up, they're out of network for my dental insurance (an Aetna HMO plan, meaning I get zero out of network coverage). Near as I can tell, the only places that are actually in network for me are big chain companies like Bright Now or Gentle Dental (who aren't gonna give a poo poo about COVID; if they acknowledge it exists at all, it'll be performative bullshit like wiping down pens between uses). And, it's been several years since I've been to the dentist, so I probably need some stuff done. Meanwhile, my health insurance is trying to stick me for almost $10k (that I don't have) for poo poo, and with that hanging over my head, I can't really afford to go out of pocket, either. Plus my heart's been hosed up since before COVID ever started, so if I do get it, I'm probably pretty screwed. I loving hate that everything in this shithole country is a business. I hate that I can't even go to the loving dentist because people had to get their microwaved Applebee's so badly that we collectively threw the entire concept of public health in the trash. I hate that every time I visit my cardiologist's office, the people in the waiting room skew younger and younger, and nobody seems to think that's at all odd. I hate that teeth (and eyes) are not considered to be part of the body for the purposes of healthcare. Everything in this country (not just COVID- and healthcare-related) is just set up in the most malicious way possible, and I'm so incredibly tired of the assholes who pretend any of it has any redeeming qualities whatsoever. I just don't know what to do here. I'll figure something out, somehow, but . . . gently caress.
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Jan 7, 2024 12:21
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Kreeblah posted:I haven't been poking my head in much in the last year or so because I've still been bunkering down at home and, well, nothing's changed (keep wearing appropriate PPE in public, and don't share air with anybody outside my household), but, gently caress, I really need to vent, and I don't know of a better audience. On a more pragmatic level, there might well be a relative lull after this big JN.1 wave. Timing your visit for that would probably be your best bet if you can't find anything Covid-safe. (That's what I'm having to do, too...)
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Jan 7, 2024 12:32
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Cabbages and Kings posted:<snip>
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Jan 7, 2024 13:04
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 https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/4392133-fears-tripledemic-surging/ posted:Why fears over a ‘tripledemic’ are surging 
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Jan 7, 2024 13:32
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There are a bunch of this type of article, which aren't really interesting enough to quote on their own, but are interesting as a pattern: There are many more, for different states. More or less the same.
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Jan 7, 2024 13:35
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So I've been listening to Naomi Klein's "Doppelganger," her book centered on how she has been getting incessantly confused with disgraced conspiracy fanatic Naomi Wolfe and what it says about identity in the modern world and all kinds of other things. The book talks about covid a lot because one of Wolfe's main things nowadays is anti-vaxx lunacy. Anyway, I was pleasantly surprised when Klein approvingly cited something written by Bea from Death Panel re: how we could be using so many non-vaxx things like NPIs to control the virus. Worlds are colliding, in a good way.
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Jan 7, 2024 13:48
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Klein was on the Death Panel for an hour or so, and she wasn’t terrible there. Shame about cheering for millions of deaths in China.
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Jan 7, 2024 14:05
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Jan 7, 2024 14:12
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Interesting (Marc Johnson you may recall does sewershed variant tracking): https://twitter.com/SolidEvidence/status/1743737356820033814 To answer the question posed at the end of the thread, it would be very very bad. Nitter thread: https://nitter.net/SolidEvidence/status/1743737350721622458#m
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Jan 7, 2024 14:16
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hey can someone post a link to that opera house or whatever that was built after the influenza pandemic with better ventilation?
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Jan 7, 2024 14:23
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Pingui posted:To answer the question posed at the end of the thread, it would be very very bad. 
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Jan 7, 2024 14:23
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Wrex Ruckus posted:hey can someone post a link to that opera house or whatever that was built after the influenza pandemic with better ventilation? Vancouver’s Orpheum https://cleanairstars.com/item/the-orpheum/
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Jan 7, 2024 14:34
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Big round of applause to the public health authorities of Ohio, you did it!   Ohio surpassed their Omicron wave.
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Jan 7, 2024 14:37
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Zugzwang posted:I'm surprised he even posed it as a question Yeah, I don't know what kind of mental contortion happened there.
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Jan 7, 2024 14:39
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The only way it could possibly be good to have two antigenically distinct strains circulating would be if real world pathogens worked like that door gag in The Simpsons. It’s very clearly a bad thing. What’s next? Being unable to decide if we want the B/Yamagata lineage of influenza to stay gone or not?
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Is it bad for public health if the virome turns into a grey goo of SARS-CoV-2 lineages? I'm not sure, but it will definitely make my job of cataloguing them all harder!
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