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Runcible Cat posted:Oh, they'd be going into parks and cutting down proper Bri'ish trees. Then roasting 'Is Majesty's swans over them or something like that. Usually you have to be on the council to do that.
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Jan 7, 2024 00:44
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Guavanaut posted:Yes, you should always wait to see if there's a second one before putting your pants back on. Five minutes until the bus arrives, I think I've got time to lay a high speed rail...
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Jan 7, 2024 01:28
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Having a log fire is nice
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Jan 7, 2024 11:11
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You're not wrong, wood stoves are very cosy and smell nice. It's just a shame about the whole planets dying stuff.
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Jan 7, 2024 11:18
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It was like that when I found it
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Jan 7, 2024 11:20
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Yeah, nah https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/dec/18/wood-burners-triple-harmful-indoor-air-pollution-study-finds
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Jan 7, 2024 11:26
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https://twitter.com/SaulStaniforth/status/1743936873800605867
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Jan 7, 2024 11:30
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Starmer also.has no plan to address the real issues confronting Britain https://twitter.com/Tweet_Dec/status/1743763526479474844?t=EjEwJEOhZLU2K1E1peNLtQ&s=19
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Jan 7, 2024 11:46
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Failed Imagineer posted:Starmer also.has no plan to address the real issues confronting Britain I assumed it was going to be the common complaint about how the packages are getting emptier and emptier. I was pleasantly surprised to see that spin on it.
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Jan 7, 2024 12:02
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The new wrappers are poo poo to be fair. Let’s just suck any kind of remaining joy out of this product to squeeze the margin further
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Jan 7, 2024 12:15
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Failed Imagineer posted:Starmer also.has no plan to address the real issues confronting Britain Sure, sure, the country is rapidly going down the shitter on every level, people have absolutely no cause for hope, but hey, what's really bad is that we're no longer wasting plastic on wrapping mediocre sweets but using recyclable but aesthetically less pleasing paper wrappers.
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Jan 7, 2024 12:16
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Pretty sure Roses still had its usual wrappers this year. To the victor the spoils.
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Jan 7, 2024 12:18
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The Celebrations wrappers look like dogshit now as well.
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Jan 7, 2024 12:20
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keep punching joe posted:You're not wrong, wood stoves are very cosy and smell nice. It's just a shame about the whole planets dying stuff. I’m sure that wood burning stoves contribute to horrible particulates in the air and significantly impact air quality, but I’m not convinced they massively impact climate change or hasten the end of the world: for the same reason that planting trees as offsetting for burning coal doesn’t materially make a difference, because it is short term carbon storage (turning CO2 into trees) vs. the transformation of long term carbon storage (fossil fuels turning into CO2). Trees to firewood to CO2 is just the short term carbon cycle doing its thing, albeit while killing asthmatic children. The thing that is hastening the end of humanity is the movement of carbon from the geological timescale cycle to the short term cycle. Fake edit: I would like to caveat all this by saying that I still think wood burning stoves are a bad thing.
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Jan 7, 2024 12:20
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Such a serious mad head on her too. WHOLE CHRISTMAS RUINED NOW
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Jan 7, 2024 12:21
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stev posted:A lot of insurers are based in Europe I guess. Thanks, it just seems a weird thing to complain about. Guess I'm looking for logic that is just not there. 
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Jan 7, 2024 12:23
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A nice example of the massive rage at the state of things, and bitter resentment that simmers under the surface of most English people, and the unwillingness to confront the real causes.
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Jan 7, 2024 12:23
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Having a log fire is nice It's lovely, I don't think I'll dispose of my tree in it though
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Jan 7, 2024 12:32
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I finally watched that ITV series about the Post Office scandal last night, and I knew the story was bad, but I had no idea how corrupt, malicious and criminal it all was. I'm still experiencing incredible waves of anger. And to think they would have all gotten away with it if it wasn't for the four part serialised TV drama.... e: https://twitter.com/deirdreheenan/status/1743947218556440580 fuctifino fucked around with this message at 12:41 on Jan 7, 2024 |
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Jan 7, 2024 12:37
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Fair enough if you’ve got asthma or something but wood burners are objectively lovely. If you can’t find joy in stoking a fire and getting cosy next to it then please re-evaluate things
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Jan 7, 2024 12:52
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Seems like we can kill two birds with one stone here. Instead of burning your Christmas tree in your living room, burn your Quality Street
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Jan 7, 2024 12:56
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happyhippy posted:Such a serious mad head on her too. Feels like if my aul wan went off on one like this, we'd have to have a group meeting about putting her in a home Jakabite posted:Fair enough if you’ve got asthma or something but wood burners are objectively lovely. If you can’t find joy in stoking a fire and getting cosy next to it then please re-evaluate things Well I do have asthma so what now  .I do like stoking a nice outdoor firepit though, when I can be upwind of the smoke
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Jan 7, 2024 12:57
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When I lived in London (17 years ago now, can't believe it!) I used to have one of these "Robocab" in my all-electric flat. More aesthetically pleasing than those big beige cuboid things even though buying smaller bottles of gas wasn't as cost effective as the regular size bottles. One of the bottles would last me about 3 weeks - but that's in the days when I was out of the house 9-12 hours a day during the working week. Real flames but not wood. It did used to chuck out loads of water though! And never vacuum near it when it's on as the vacuum sucks the flames out through the bars! Me & the kitties loved it, it was so cozy. 
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Jan 7, 2024 13:01
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Here in NI we can still burn PROPER COAL and peat and poo poo. Love me hearth, love me real fire. Simple as
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Jan 7, 2024 13:06
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Wood burners became an air quality issue when townies decided that they needed them, same as 4x4s. As always the problem is townies cosplaying as country squires. Personally I blame Nigella.
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Jan 7, 2024 13:07
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keep punching joe posted:Wood burners became an air quality issue when townies decided that they needed them, same as 4x4s. Only the good honest simple countryside gentry should be allowed to destroy the environment.
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Jan 7, 2024 13:11
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keep punching joe posted:Wood burners became an air quality issue when townies decided that they needed them, same as 4x4s. Disagree. My folks had wood burners living in a very rural area. I am convinced to this day that the smoke from the dratted thing caused or hastened my dad's oesophageal cancer. Whenever I used to visit, the smoke in the room used to practically choke me, but the parentals living in it every day seemed to be oblivious. Dad's chair was directly in front of it while mum's was off to the side. (eg: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/ar...ageal%20cancer.)
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Jan 7, 2024 13:14
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Failed Imagineer posted:Feels like if my aul wan went off on one like this, we'd have to have a group meeting about putting her in a home Get one of those nice fake ones that still look pretty as all people regardless of their respiratory system deserve warmth from things that look nice imo Speaking of which i recently got into plants and can’t recommend it enough, incredible what some greenery does for the ol’ brainbox
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Jan 7, 2024 13:20
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Wood burns quickly, which is poo poo for efficiency, but great when it's really cold and you need to warm up now. Also, presumably it's easier to source fuel for a wood burner if your finances are terrible or you live somewhere the slumlord has sub-divided into 25 rooms and your room doesn't have a radiator.
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Jan 7, 2024 13:35
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A modern wood stove should dump very little smoke back into the room. It’s not nothing, and still harmful, but nowhere near an older lovely stove, or worse, an open hearth. They’re also much more efficient. Open hearths can in some circumstances make your house colder due to the amount of air they suck in from the outside. I had a catalytic stove at an old place I had that I actually used for most of the winter heating, because it was much cheaper than the garbage baseboard heaters the place had.
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Jan 7, 2024 13:38
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smellmycheese posted:Here in NI we can still burn PROPER COAL and peat and poo poo. Love me hearth, love me real fire. Simple as Never want to burn peat ever again, the amount of ashes you got out of that stuff was a right pain to clean out every morning.  The amount of rigmarole my mum had to go through to keep a coal fire going was also a chore... i'll stick with the oil.
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Jan 7, 2024 13:40
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My Nan used to have a coal fire. She's dead now and was cremated. Coincidence?
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Jan 7, 2024 13:41
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Dead Goon posted:My Nan used to have a coal fire. When you say cremated...did she just slowly tip forward into the fire and no one noticed in time?
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Jan 7, 2024 13:43
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cat botherer posted:A modern wood stove should dump very little smoke back into the room. It’s not nothing, and still harmful, but nowhere near an older lovely stove, or worse, an open hearth. They’re also much more efficient. Open hearths can in some circumstances make your house colder due to the amount of air they suck in from the outside. While modern ones are better at not polluting the room, they still significantly increase air pollution outside your house and affect local air quality - and the air inside your house is just a product of the air outside your house at the end of the day. Wood fires are cozy and warm and lovely. They also are bad for local air pollution which has a noticeable effect on respiratory health, especially of small children and the elderly. It just didn't use to matter when half the population was smoking themselves and others around them to death anyways, but now it's more prominent.
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Jan 7, 2024 13:45
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Jakabite posted:Fair enough if you’ve got asthma or something but wood burners are objectively lovely. If you can’t find joy in stoking a fire and getting cosy next to it then please re-evaluate things That's why I got a cheap fire pit thing for the back garden. It's a bit of a windtrap though so, even when it's early evening in the middle of summer, you get this constant breeze that makes it feel a bit too cold to sit out in the garden even with the fire pit. I love a good fire but haven't got the first idea on how to deal with the situation with back garden without some kind of elaborate shelter. Kin fucked around with this message at 13:56 on Jan 7, 2024 |
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Jan 7, 2024 13:52
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Well well, what a surprise 
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Jan 7, 2024 13:58
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can't wait to pay five quid to look at ducks in the park
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Jan 7, 2024 14:04
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Nothingtoseehere posted:While modern ones are better at not polluting the room, they still significantly increase air pollution outside your house and affect local air quality - and the air inside your house is just a product of the air outside your house at the end of the day.
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Jan 7, 2024 14:05
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Nuclear Spoon posted:can't wait to pay five quid to look at ducks in the park The ducks have also been sold off.
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Jan 7, 2024 14:15
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cat botherer posted:Yeah it’s bad if significant numbers use it, and wood as a fuel doesn’t scale up. Flux Wildly posted:Most worrying part of that to me is the freeborn Briton part which seems quite dog whistle-y, no? So immigrants etc need not apply. I don't think that Johnson cares enough to be one of these "90% of the country is immigrants now" nationalists, it's not his style. It's more that he believes in a blasé way that there's maybe 100,000 actual people in the country, and as long as only they were doing whatever they want and the help stuck to tidying things up after then it'd be fine, wouldn't it?
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