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Wrex Ruckus
Aug 24, 2015


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Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?

Platystemon posted:

The only way it could possibly be good to have two antigenically distinct strains circulating would be if real world pathogens worked like that door gag in The Simpsons.

It’s very clearly a bad thing.

What’s next? Being unable to decide if we want the B/Yamagata lineage of influenza to stay gone or not?

Well, you see...

https://www.nbcnews.com/health/cold-and-flu/covid-flu-surging-risk-coinfection-test-rcna132345 posted:

With Covid and flu surging at the same time, how big is the risk of coinfection?
The most recent data from the CDC shows high levels of flu across the country and increases in hospitalizations due to Covid.
(..)
John Wherry, director of the Institute for Immunology at the University of Pennsylvania, said protection from coinfection has to do with our body’s own defense system.

“There is a concept out there with data from animal models that one infection can make you more resistant to another infection occurring at the same time,” he said.

This phenomenon, called viral interference, is where infection with one virus ramps up the body’s immune system and can make it less likely to get infected with another virus.

“The immune response to one kind of shuts the door on the other,” said Dr. Jake Scott, an infectious diseases specialist at Stanford Medicine.
(..)
Evidence suggests that infection with Covid and influenza can make someone sicker.
(..)

"The evidence :rolleyes: What about this bullshit concept??" - John Wherry, director of the Institute for Immunology at the University of Pennsylvania, implicitly

corona familiar
Aug 13, 2021

Kreeblah posted:

I've been looking for a dentist for a while now, here around Seattle.

in addition to the timing suggestions from others, have you considered the sticky mask nose technique or bringing an air purifier to run during your visit? if you're able to find an office that has individual procedure rooms it might be the best you can do

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gPsQKrpKOYY

https://youtu.be/VUJGYM894Bw

corona familiar has issued a correction as of 15:34 on Jan 7, 2024

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?
Backlog clearance
Stuff that - for one reason or another - were "good" enough to set aside but not enough to post. Some are trash, some are good but not great, some requires too much work to fully comment and most are old. As this is to clear out the backlog, comments and editing will be very light from my side. This being a typical slow news Sunday, I figure those that would like something will enjoy it, but by all means skip.

1

https://fortune.com/well/2024/01/05/us-reachest-second-highest-covid-peak-pirola-jn1-omicron-pi-rho/ posted:

Highly mutated COVID variant ‘Pirola’ JN.1 is fueling the pandemic’s second highest U.S. wave—and it’s still growing
January 5, 2024

2a
My dudes, removing the hospitalized cases to conclude this is going to get people killed. gently caress you!

https://www.sfchronicle.com/health/article/paxlovid-does-not-cut-long-covid-risk-study-finds-18587641.php posted:

Paxlovid doesn’t reduce risk of long COVID, UCSF study finds

2b
Article proper:
"Association of nirmatrelvir for acute SARS-CoV-2 infection with subsequent Long COVID symptoms in an observational cohort study"

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/jmv.29333 posted:

Abstract
Oral nirmatrelvir/ritonavir is approved as treatment for acute COVID-19, but the effect of treatment during acute infection on risk of Long COVID is unknown. We hypothesized that nirmatrelvir treatment during acute SARS-CoV-2 infection reduces risk of developing Long COVID and rebound after treatment is associated with Long COVID. We conducted an observational cohort study within the Covid Citizen Science (CCS) study, an online cohort study with over 100 000 participants. We included vaccinated, nonhospitalized, nonpregnant individuals who reported their first SARS-CoV-2 positive test March–August 2022. Oral nirmatrelvir/ritonavir treatment was ascertained during acute SARS-CoV-2 infection. Patient-reported Long COVID symptoms, symptom rebound and test-positivity rebound were asked on subsequent surveys at least 3 months after SARS-CoV-2 infection. A total of 4684 individuals met the eligibility criteria, of whom 988 (21.1%) were treated and 3696 (78.9%) were untreated; 353/988 (35.7%) treated and 1258/3696 (34.0%) untreated responded to the Long COVID survey (n = 1611). Among 1611 participants, median age was 55 years and 66% were female. At 5.4 ± 1.3 months after infection, nirmatrelvir treatment was not associated with subsequent Long COVID symptoms (odds ratio [OR]: 1.15; 95% confidence interval [CI]: 0.80–1.64; p = 0.45). Among 666 treated who answered rebound questions, rebound symptoms or test positivity were not associated with Long COVID symptoms (OR: 1.34; 95% CI: 0.74–2.41; p = 0.33). Within this cohort of vaccinated, nonhospitalized individuals, oral nirmatrelvir treatment during acute SARS-CoV-2 infection and rebound after nirmatrelvir treatment were not associated with Long COVID symptoms more than 90 days after infection.

3
The uplifting story of a quadruple amputee (COVID induced).

https://www.inquirer.com/news/inq2/covid-limb-amputations-candice-davis-20240104.html posted:

After losing a part of each limb at 30, this COVID survivor is adapting to her new life
Candice Davis continues on her recovery journey: “There’s possibility for everything”

4
Carefully insinuating diminished threat means no threat.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/03/health/covid-masks-vaccinations.html posted:

Covid Has Resurged, but Scientists See a Diminished Threat
Hospitalizations have ticked upward, and there are at least 1,200 Covid deaths each week. Americans should wear masks more often and get vaccinated, experts say.
January 3, 2024

Archived link: https://archive.vn/8ZTAK

5
Fairly decent article, but overly long for something that doesn't really bring anything new to the table.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2023/12/31/long-covid-symptoms-treatment-research/ posted:

Four years on, long covid still confounds us. Here’s what we now know.
December 31, 2023

Many people now view covid-19 as an almost routine inconvenience, much like flu, RSV and other seasonal infections. But four years after reports surfaced of a new respiratory illness, prompting a massive response among researchers, the disease’s aftereffects — commonly called long covid — continue to confound doctors and patients alike.

“We know a lot about this particular coronavirus,” said Francesca Beaudoin, chair of the department of epidemiology at Brown University. “That does not translate into an understanding of the long-term consequences of infection.”
(..)
Can I stop myself from getting long covid?
Yes! By not getting covid in the first place. That means getting vaccinated, wearing a well-fitting mask, washing your hands and avoiding crowded, poorly ventilated indoor spaces.
And if that sounds like a tall order these days, you are right.
(..)

Archived link: https://archive.vn/9MtSN

6
:britain: Plague Island gonna plague.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/dec/29/nhs-england-storm-of-pressure-flu-covid-cases-surge posted:

NHS in England facing ‘storm of pressure’ as flu and Covid cases surge
Average of 3,631 patients in hospital with Covid during Christmas week, data shows, a rise of 57% in a month
Fri 29 Dec 2023

7
An exciting view into how well (mostly) expats remember propaganda.

https://www.ft.com/content/930318b8-65f3-4c66-9dd6-44249adea584 posted:

Zero-Covid: China’s year of forgetting
A year on from the ending of the policy, how is it now remembered — and how well?
(..)
There are 26mn people in Shanghai, just one of dozens of cities locked down in China between 2020 and 2022, each with their own accounts. Official coverage of the pandemic was carefully controlled. But on social media the unfolding history was at the time richly documented.

One expat couple
(..)
lmao, gently caress off.

8a
The casual bullshit of not mentioning the difference in testing levels between RSV that takes you to the ED and COVID that takes you to the ED during the initial Omicron wave.

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/pediatric-rsv-led-higher-hospitalization-rates-omicron-flu/story?id=105947505 posted:

Pediatric RSV led to higher hospitalization rates than omicron or flu: Study
Hospitalization rates were 81.7% for RSV and 27.7% for flu, the study found.

8b
The study proper:
"Outcomes of Pediatric SARS-CoV-2 Omicron Infection vs Influenza and Respiratory Syncytial Virus Infections"

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapediatrics/fullarticle/2812813 posted:

Pneumonia is the largest infectious cause of pediatric mortality, and respiratory viruses, including respiratory syncytial virus (RSV), influenza virus, and SARS-CoV-2, can be detected in more than 80% of community-acquired infections.1,2 Omicron is associated with less severity compared with preceding variants.3 However, outcomes of Omicron vs RSV and influenza infections in children remain to be better understood. We compared outcomes of Omicron infection with those of influenza or RSV infection in pediatric patients attending emergency departments (EDs).

9
Most of this isn't news at all and I didn't know what to say about the hypermobility.

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/long-covid-new-info-who-most-likely-get-it-2023a1000wq4 posted:

Long COVID: New Info on Who Is Most Likely to Get It
(..)
A small Northwestern Medicine study found that 41% of patients with long COVID never tested positive for COVID-19 but were found to have antibodies that indicated exposure to the virus.

Doctors treating patients with long COVID should consider several risk factors, specialists said. They include:
  • A history of asthma, eczema, or allergies
  • Signs of autonomic nervous system dysfunction
  • Preexisting immune system issues
  • Chronic infections
  • Diabetes
  • Being slightly overweight
  • A preexisting history of anxiety or depression
  • Joint hypermobility (being "double-jointed" with pain and other symptoms)
(..)

10
The original headline was the reason I clicked ("COVID, flu, RSV, cold, strep: What is everyone catching this winter?"). It is still vaguely amusing and I should have posted it at the time.

https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/health/2023/12/28/winter-covid-flu-rsv-season-guide/71894396007/ posted:

What are Americans catching this winter? It's not just flu and COVID-19 anymore.
28 December 2023

It’s that time of year, again, when everyone appears to be getting sick – your family, your friends, your co-workers. Even your dog.
(..)
“You can take your pick this year,” said Dr. Steve Furr, president of the American Academy of Family Physicians.
(..)

11
Gave me a light chuckle.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/health-fitness/conditions/cold-flu/covid-christmas-flu-symptoms-virus-teeth-flu/ posted:

Why everyone seems to have Covid this Christmas
As the JN.1 variant begins to bite, and with reports of a wide range of symptoms – the illness is back to ruin festivities

(..)

12
It is something that sounds like something, but really isn't. Like okay, most tracked transmission are at home and you are more likely to get it when you are with someone for a long time, rather than when passing them on the street?? No poo poo.

https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/covid-19/covid-contact-tracing-study-suggests-length-exposure-biggest-factor-disease-spread posted:

COVID contact-tracing study suggests length of exposure biggest factor in disease spread

13
Okay, now tell me which type of event most people participated in and how your conclusions relate to the policies in Belgium at the time.

https://www.news-medical.net/news/2...in-culprit.aspx posted:

New Year's Eve celebrations linked to spike in COVID-19 cases: Small gatherings, not large events, the main culprit

Background
Several studies have reported an increase in COVID-19 cases following public holidays and celebrations; however, to date, no study has identified a single causal evidence.

Existing data has shown that superspreading events (SSEs) are one of the significant contributors to the transmission of SARS-CoV-2 and other pathogens. Thus, it is important to understand the exact role of SSEs in increasing the spread of SARS-CoV-2 during holidays.
(..)
Several other restrictions were implemented by the end of December, including wearing face masks in public indoor areas, prohibiting indoor mass gatherings, school closures, and mandatory remote work in several professional sectors.
(..)
Although there was a high secondary attack rate, SSEs were responsible for 16-34% of infections on NYE. Thus, small-scale events, rather than SSEs, were the main contributors to a surge in new cases of COVID-19.
(..)

14
Yeah! Someone going after the CDC for their idiotic insistence that vaccines are the end all be all of curbing COVID! :eng101:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joshuacohen/2023/12/13/three-years-after-covid-19-vaccine-rollout-cdc-still-gets-messaging-wrong/ posted:

Three Years After Covid-19 Vaccine Rollout, CDC Still Gets Messaging Wrong
(..)
It’s this kind of evidence that should be highlighted in CDC’s messaging on the importance of vaccines in the effort to prevent severe illness and death from Covid-19.
Oh... :eng99:

15a
Their heart is in the right place, but it mostly makes me wonder: is it though?

https://thehill.com/opinion/healthcare/4354004-this-is-bigger-than-covid-why-are-so-many-americans-dying-early/ posted:

This is bigger than COVID: Why are so many Americans dying early?
(..)
With the worst of COVID behind us, annual deaths for all causes should be back to pre-pandemic levels — or even lower because of the loss of so many sick and infirm Americans. Instead, the death toll remains “alarming,” “disturbing,” and deserving of “urgent attention,” according to insurance industry articles.

Actuarial reports — used by insurers to inform decisions — show deaths occurring disproportionately among young working-age people. Nonetheless, America’s chief health manager, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, opted in September to archive its excess deaths webpage with a note stating, “these datasets will no longer be updated.”
(..)

15b
What is really interesting here however, is the sourcing. Namely a bunch of actuarial tables and presentations:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/j9x8dcsy5t5no36/AAB7Y7VMoRjGI8zfj5QhVHh9a?dl=0

As an example, look at heart disease here:

16
Yes.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-11-22/covid-long-term-disease-parkinsons-alzheimers-risk/103112864 posted:

The eighth COVID-19 wave is here. Could catching it trigger Alzheimer's, Parkinson's or autoimmune disorders?
21 November 2023

17
This just made me sad. Naturally lockdowns get blamed.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/nov/21/people-who-stuck-by-uk-covid-rules-have-worst-mental-health-says-survey posted:

People who stuck by UK Covid rules have worst mental health, says survey
Trauma of pandemic having lasting impact on people’s mental health three years on, research reveals

People who stuck by Covid lockdown rules the most strictly have the worst mental health today, research has found.
(..)
“Communal” types displayed the highest levels of continuing disturbance to their mental wellbeing. However, “agentic” people had been able to “bounce back” better from lockdown mode.
(..)
“The finding that people who complied with pandemic restrictions are more likely to have poorer mental health three years on is deeply disturbing.

“The fear, loss and trauma created by the pandemic are having a lasting impact on many people’s mental health. For some, this may have been exacerbated by the loss of social solidarity from seeing others not complying with the same restrictions,” said Andy Bell, its chief executive.
(..)
Do you think??

Anyways, that was mostly it for the backlog. Still have some science articles, but at least this clears out most of the nonsense.

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
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Clapping Larry
incredible that UCSF continues to suck so much complete rear end

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

Pingui posted:

Backlog clearance
9
Most of this isn't news at all and I didn't know what to say about the hypermobility.

maybe some correlation with other conditions doctors don’t believe in, like ehlers-danlos syndrome?

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Sorry for the tiktok link but...

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSNcSGqHc/

FIP is curable???

Cabbages and VHS
Aug 25, 2004

Listen, I've been around a bit, you know, and I thought I'd seen some creepy things go on in the movie business, but I really have to say this is the most disgusting thing that's ever happened to me.

Boy of Joy posted:

anyway, I would be down to read more about this stuff if you made a thread!

what do you think the best forum would be? No one reads The Goon Doctor. Lol at the thought of me making a D&D thread in 2023.

CSpam is kinda the wild west left, and I think a bunch of us are now in the 35-45 range where this poo poo becomes common, a lot of us seem to like some combination of (wrestling, guns, live music, animal husbandry) which can all have hearing problems.

Yea gently caress it the only places I post are The Musician's Lounge and CSpam, really. GBS would be the other option but meh. When I have time I'll make a "LEFTIST TUNES, MOSINS AND HURTY EARS: THE CSPAM TINNITUS AND HEARING LOSS THREAD" and talk about my experience and what I know about the current neuro understanding of the condition, and, more importantly, what the actual pipelines for some of these treatments that are not snake oil are.

There's one paper about 600mg/day gabapentin providing relief for post-COVID tinnitus, I take 200mg/day anyway and my dr doesn't care if I mess with the dose on that one; does seem like things are slightly better after a few days at 600; I'm also going to do a probiotic protocol.

Interestingly, the specific family of bacteria (bifidobacterium) that's showing some promise for helping prevent the contraction of COVID, is also mentioned in some literature about the connection between gut dysbiosis and tinnitus outside of the context of COVID.

My feeling (and there's some reasonable evidence to suggest this) is that tinnitus is fundamentally a rewiring problem, but because the rewiring involves touch-sensing percepts being interpreted as audio, literally anything that causes inflammation or strain to either the cranial nerves that are innervated through the TMJ, or to the neck and jaw muscles which support those nerves, is almost certain to make tinnitus worse even if it's got nothing to do with the cause.

gradenko_2000 posted:

Sorry for the tiktok link but...

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSNcSGqHc/

FIP is curable???

Right when COVID was blowing up a friend told me he was in some secret group of people that imported a coronavirus drug from China to give to FIV cats and yes it is curative if used fast enough. The reason this existed as a secret group, was that the labs in china that do the synthesis needed more lead time than a sick cat allows, so what you would do is, order some, put your name on a list, and then someone else who had done the same thing in the past would send you their chinese feline corona drugs, and you would hold on to yours for the next person with a sick cat.

After looking at the video, yep, same drug.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003



This is the third year in a row they’ve run these exact stories lol

bred
Oct 24, 2008
Thank you for the perspective. The logic about when to treat is so simple but now that it's me I find myself making excuses. Last night I tested negative. Today I had the slightest grey line on an accesbio test. I'm reading this as a positive confirming I have covid. It continued to get bluer as time went on. I started paxlovid this morning. Thank you thread for helping me prepare for this.

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe

bred posted:

Thank you for the perspective. The logic about when to treat is so simple but now that it's me I find myself making excuses. Last night I tested negative. Today I had the slightest grey line on an accesbio test. I'm reading this as a positive confirming I have covid. It continued to get bluer as time went on. I started paxlovid this morning. Thank you thread for helping me prepare for this.

good job, I hope your recovery is swift and complete :)

durrneez
Feb 20, 2013

I like fish. I like to eat fish. I like to brush fish with a fish hairbrush. Do you like fish too?

gradenko_2000 posted:

Sorry for the tiktok link but...

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSNcSGqHc/

FIP is curable???

yeah, there are some recent posts about it in the cat thread in the pet subforum.

Iverron
May 13, 2012

Pingui posted:

Interesting (Marc Johnson you may recall does sewershed variant tracking):
https://twitter.com/SolidEvidence/status/1743737356820033814

To answer the question posed at the end of the thread, it would be very very bad.

Nitter thread: https://nitter.net/SolidEvidence/status/1743737350721622458#m

https://x.com/JPWeiland/status/1743742478472102068?s=20

next few weeks should be interesting

Iverron
May 13, 2012

jn.1 moth juice please

Zugzwang
Jan 2, 2005

You have a kind of sick desperation in your laugh.


Ramrod XTreme
Pack it in, XBBailures

astral
Apr 26, 2004

Cabbages and Kings posted:

what do you think the best forum would be? No one reads The Goon Doctor.

Not with that kind of attitude, they won't. You should post about it there!

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?
Something about this headline tickles me.

https://abc7.com/respiratory-illnesses-covid-rsv/14269895/ posted:

Infectious disease specialists say brace yourself for respiratory viruses packing a 1-2 punch
I think it is the thought of bracing yourself for a 1-2 punch, which is either very Christian or abject surrender.

Asproigerosis
Mar 13, 2013

insufferable
Yeah they figured out remdesivir cures FIP years ago.

Rescue Toaster
Mar 13, 2003

Asproigerosis posted:

Yeah they figured out remdesivir cures FIP years ago.

I guess apparently GS-441524 (works the same as remdesivir but apparently better in a few key ways) is what has been approved for cats in the UK and a few other places to treat FIP. The theory is that Gilead is keeping it out of the US via patent shenanigans because remdesivir, even though seemingly flat out worse, has better patent protection going forward and so GS-441524 won't be as profitable in human use against COVID-19.

It's not clear to me how remdesivir (or hypothetically an oral version of this GS-# thing) actually compares to Paxlovid. The studies point to particular use scenarios but it's not clear if they've been ABX compared in mild, moderate, and severe cases, early/late administration, oral vs IV version etc..etc...

Why bother though, right?

I do wonder how the commercial lifecycle of stuff like Tamiflu influences the choices drug companies are making about COVID antivirals. Tamiflu was the hot poo poo like 15-20 years ago, and now I don't know if they ever prescribe that anymore? Probably all the patents ran out and there was no drug reps pushing it like crazy and eventually everybody realized it didn't do poo poo. (Not comparing tamiflu to pax in any way here, just wondering about commercial history of these drugs)

Pingui
Jun 4, 2006

WTF?

Rescue Toaster posted:

(..)
I do wonder how the commercial lifecycle of stuff like Tamiflu influences the choices drug companies are making about COVID antivirals. Tamiflu was the hot poo poo like 15-20 years ago, and now I don't know if they ever prescribe that anymore? Probably all the patents ran out and there was no drug reps pushing it like crazy and eventually everybody realized it didn't do poo poo. (Not comparing tamiflu to pax in any way here, just wondering about commercial history of these drugs)

I have no real idea of what the market for Tamiflu looks like, but if your test2treat test is positive for influenza, you can get Tamiflu. So you are probably right that they consider them comparable.

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right
Avian influenza has torn through South America and killed a gigantic number of birds, elephant seals and sea lions, and may have just made the leap across to Antarctica

quote:

A study released late last month reaffirmed the devastating impact of the disease.

The report, published in Marine Mammal Science, analysed data from an outbreak among southern elephant seals at Peninsula Valdez in Argentina in early October.

About 70 per cent of the 1,891 seal pups born along a 13-kilometre stretch of coastline during the peak breeding season died.

During the same period a year earlier, the mortality rate was less than 1 per cent.

By extrapolating the results across the region's entire colony, researchers estimate around 17,400 seal pups succumbed to the deadly disease.

Where thousands of weaned pups would normally be expected in late October and early November, only 58 were seen.

The researchers also observed dozens of adult seal carcasses in an area where seeing dead adults is a rare event. Other seals displayed symptoms including head tremors, lack of coordination, and nasal discharges.

But it is not just southern elephant seals that have been affected by avian influenza.

A network of avian influenza experts, known as OFFLU, has reported the deaths of more than half-a-million birds and 50,000 mammals since the disease was first detected in South America.

They include 262,000 cormorants, 62,000 Peruvian pelicans, 32,000 sea lions and 4,000 Humboldt penguins.

"Updates from our Southern American colleagues are consistently distressing given the scale of mortality recorded on the continent," Dr Wille said.

quote:

As a member for the Antarctic Wildlife Health Network, Dr Wille is bracing for avian influenza's anticipated spread across the vast icy wilderness.

"In the Antarctic, we have a high proportion of species that are found nowhere else in the world.

"So [the] effects could be catastrophic," she said.

The continent is home to 48 bird species and 26 marine mammals, including many that congregate in small areas to breed.

"[The impact] could include not only emblematic species such as Emperor Penguins, but all the incredible marine mammals are at risk as well.

"In addition to direct effects, like mass mortality events, we may also see ecosystem level impacts if so many animals are 'removed' from the ecosystems, which is what we saw following the mass removal of whales due to whaling."

Fears about its spread are not limited to Antarctica.

Scientists expect avian influenza to eventually reach Australia and other areas across the Pacific.

The most likely incursion will come from Asia or North America, but researchers say it is plausible it could arrive from Antarctica.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-01-08/antarctic-bird-flu-h5n1-threat-scientists-fear-worst/103287708

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
https://x.com/clean_air_club_/status/1728097757057913084?s=46

a new challenger appears

Cabbages and VHS
Aug 25, 2004

Listen, I've been around a bit, you know, and I thought I'd seen some creepy things go on in the movie business, but I really have to say this is the most disgusting thing that's ever happened to me.

astral posted:

Not with that kind of attitude, they won't. You should post about it there!

pretty sure I posted a thread there after being a lab rat in a study at UMich, and got less replies than I've gotten about it in this thread :allears:

Mola Yam
Jun 18, 2004

Kali Ma Shakti de!

Objurium
Aug 8, 2009

Just popped positive on a rapid antigen test after growing suspicions that the cognitive impairment from this "head cold" felt very... Wrong.

It seems hard to separate wheat from chaff right now, but does anyone have a handy reliable JN1 info resource sheet? I'm seeing random poo poo about serotonin depletion and anxiety but I have no idea if those sources are reliable or not and my brain fog isn't doing me any favors.

Gravid Topiary
Feb 16, 2012

Cabbages and Kings posted:

what do you think the best forum would be? No one reads The Goon Doctor. Lol at the thought of me making a D&D thread in 2023.

there's the tinnitus support thread in e/n
Tinnitus Support Megathread - eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

Gunshow Poophole
Sep 14, 2008

OMBUDSMAN
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Clapping Larry

Objurium posted:

Just popped positive on a rapid antigen test after growing suspicions that the cognitive impairment from this "head cold" felt very... Wrong.

It seems hard to separate wheat from chaff right now, but does anyone have a handy reliable JN1 info resource sheet? I'm seeing random poo poo about serotonin depletion and anxiety but I have no idea if those sources are reliable or not and my brain fog isn't doing me any favors.

nothing has fundamentally changed from any previous variant, don't worry about what specific alphabet soup got you sick. get pax, rest up, stay hydrated and do not exercise for two months

Steely Dad
Jul 29, 2006




Is Amazon a trustworthy source for these, or is it like N95s where you shouldn’t chance it?

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Steely Dad posted:

Is Amazon a trustworthy source for these, or is it like N95s where you shouldn’t chance it?

You can buy them directly from Aptitude Medical

CoasterMaster
Aug 13, 2003

The Emperor of the Rides


Nap Ghost
I just got mine direct from the source. They shipped very quick and showed up a couple days later. Definitely not as streamlined and easy to use as the Cue ones, but no harder than your average RAT.

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

Steely Dad posted:

Is Amazon a trustworthy source for these, or is it like N95s where you shouldn’t chance it?

far as I know both sell directly from their websites only. Metrix has good pricing and customer service. Buy 12 get a tester free. I got one for everyone in the house so if we want guests over we don’t have to wait two hours to get test results.

I will also note there are two ways to test for each test for Metrix: spit or swab. If money is tight you can have one person spit and the other swab and have your test do double duty. Granted if it comes up positive you’ll have to take another anyway but if it’s negative you saved yourself a test.

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

CoasterMaster posted:

I just got mine direct from the source. They shipped very quick and showed up a couple days later. Definitely not as streamlined and easy to use as the Cue ones, but no harder than your average RAT.

I found these way easier to use without errors than Cue with the stupid rear end app that doesn't work right a quarter of the time or wants me to update the firmware on the reader first

Oracle
Oct 9, 2004

The Oldest Man posted:

I found these way easier to use without errors than Cue with the stupid rear end app that doesn't work right a quarter of the time or wants me to update the firmware on the reader first

Metrix will also send you a free replacement test if yours pops purple (test error, meaning something malfunctioned with the test itself).
I’d love to hack one to see if I could get it to reuse the test cart; it still feels like such a waste of material to throw out the chip.

FUCK COREY PERRY
Apr 19, 2008




lol

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

What are the most prominent symptoms of the current variant doing the rounds? Think I read making GBS threads your guts out somewhere? Anyway, I got [mystery respiratory infection] kicking around right now. Used my last test a couple of days ago, which was negative, but I might've tested too early and I'm waiting for someone to drop off a test tomorrow before I think about going back to work. Started with a runny nose, medium headache which went away after about two days, initially chunky wet cough which is now dry, but persistent, and it's the only remaining symptom after about a week symptomatic. No brain frog or whatever. Hoping I didn't get got finally and it isn't lining up to one-two my rear end or something.

Edit: him name is covid brain frog

SplitSoul has issued a correction as of 06:15 on Jan 8, 2024

CoasterMaster
Aug 13, 2003

The Emperor of the Rides


Nap Ghost

The Oldest Man posted:

I found these way easier to use without errors than Cue with the stupid rear end app that doesn't work right a quarter of the time or wants me to update the firmware on the reader first

I had an issue doing the first time setup...the reader didn't look like it wanted to charge and stayed at 0% for a while, but I let it charge overnight and then it worked fine from there.

Oracle posted:

Metrix will also send you a free replacement test if yours pops purple (test error, meaning something malfunctioned with the test itself).
I’d love to hack one to see if I could get it to reuse the test cart; it still feels like such a waste of material to throw out the chip.

Cue did this too. I had a test return an invalid result and they emailed me a coupon code so I could order a replacement free of charge.

Mumbling
Feb 7, 2015

On the subject of Metrix, has anyone here had it catch asymptomatic infections? I know on paper its supposed to be PCR accurate, but I’m curious if there are any goon antidotes that speak to its efficacy.

toggle
Nov 7, 2005

Snowglobe of Doom posted:

Avian influenza has torn through South America and killed a gigantic number of birds, elephant seals and sea lions, and may have just made the leap across to Antarctica



https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-01-08/antarctic-bird-flu-h5n1-threat-scientists-fear-worst/103287708

only a matter of time :smith:

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

gradenko_2000 posted:

Sorry for the tiktok link but...

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZSNcSGqHc/

FIP is curable???

Don’t make me tap the sign.



Cabbages and Kings posted:

Right when COVID was blowing up a friend told me he was in some secret group of people that imported a coronavirus drug from China to give to FIV cats and yes it is curative if used fast enough. The reason this existed as a secret group, was that the labs in china that do the synthesis needed more lead time than a sick cat allows, so what you would do is, order some, put your name on a list, and then someone else who had done the same thing in the past would send you their chinese feline corona drugs, and you would hold on to yours for the next person with a sick cat.

After looking at the video, yep, same drug.

Remdesivir is a prodrug of GS-441524.

The main reason that it is Remdesivir, not GS-441524 that is used in humans is that Gildead’s patent on Remdesivir is fresher. It’s an open conspiracy.

For treating FIP, GC376 and Molnupiravir are also options but less well established.


P.S. Have this Atlantic article with funny framing:

COVID Drugs Are a Miracle Cure for Cats

Leftover medications are going to save the animals from a deadly feline coronavirus.

quote:

The response to COVID supercharged research into antivirals against coronaviruses, expanding the arsenal of drugs and making them more widely available. So Cyprus was oddly prepared for this new viral scourge. This summer, the government began releasing leftover stockpiles of the COVID antiviral molnupiravir for cats with FIP.

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Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
https://x.com/kalewontsaveyou/status/1743792941204656408?s=46

we need to devote more research dollars to this obviously

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