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AnEdgelord posted:Answer this for me Have we seen anyone sit on it and use it prior to Magnuses gently caress up where everyone who is aware of how the throne works went "You absolutely and totally broke everything" and made it so that the throne operator is now unshielded and needs to mentally hold warp portals closed? Telsa Cola fucked around with this message at 15:33 on Jan 8, 2024 |
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serious gaylord posted:What do you reckon the odds are that the last line of TEATD3 are the same as the first line in Horus Rising? I don't know about it being the last line but "I was there the day Horus slew the Emperor" is guaranteed to show up.
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AnEdgelord posted:Answer this for me Pretty sure emps is already on the throne when Magnus busts down the door and isn't in agony just directing the power into the human webway. It's only after that happens that it's painful is my understanding.
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AnEdgelord posted:Answer this for me Wasn't it in operation but unoccupied for much of the Great Crusade?
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Gravitas Shortfall posted:Interview with Dan Abnett about concluding the Heresy Says he's finished another 40k novel connected to an ongoing series here already so I wonder if we'll get more Abnett this year. He also said it was a refreshing change of pace so I actually think it won't be the final Bequin book. My wildcard prediction is he finally did his Double Eagle sequel he's been on about for 15 years, Interceptor City.
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I would bet they had him do a Dawn of Fire book. They really want it to be a thing especially with HH ending. Which is fine the last one by Wraight was excellent, just a series that needed good authors.
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AnEdgelord posted:Answer this for me I'll check the text in Thousand Sons later but I'm almost certain the Emperor is relaxed, moisturized, unbothered on the Throne when Magnus does his thing.
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D-Pad posted:I would bet they had him do a Dawn of Fire book. They really want it to be a thing especially with HH ending. Which is fine the last one by Wraight was excellent, just a series that needed good authors. He said it was connected to one of his own ongoing series, so I'd say that rules out Dawn of Fire.
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Gaunt's Ghosts downtime novel, they're hanging out on Verghast recruiting some new troops and just vibing. Blood Pact but without the action.
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Demiurge4 posted:Gaunt's Ghosts downtime novel, they're hanging out on Verghast recruiting some new troops and just vibing. Blood Pact but without the action. Hell yes
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Demiurge4 posted:Gaunt's Ghosts downtime novel, they're hanging out on Verghast recruiting some new troops and just vibing. Blood Pact but without the action. I'm always down for more ghosts or anything sabbat related, but
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Dog_Meat posted:Dead Sun, Black Sky talk (from earlier) It's a freaking acid trip lmao
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How come I can get the first Cain omnibus for $15 and then the second one is like $250? Is this some sort of drugs thing?
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More books in general should involve a hosed up chaos train just crashing into reality.
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If they don't end up suplexing the chaos train I must rate this book diabolus, and hereticus extremis.
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It's been so long. Wasn't Typhus driving that train or something as well?
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no but the train turns into a daemon who then fights another daemon, and the second daemon kills the train daemon, and then McNeill’s self insert Honsou kicks the winning daemon and makes him go kill other iron warriors the ultramarines books are so loving bad but that one is at least entertainingly insane, outside of the daemonculaba. even those are just McNeill’s take on axolotl tanks, since everything in 40K has a root in dune. they just don’t fit the setting here because dune is outrageously horny and 40K usually isn’t, or at least is only horny in a deeply sublimated way.
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the next book in the ultramarines series after that is absolutely dreary, though, with nothing to recommend it. it also features the bizarre stylistic choice to name the main baddie after famous Massachusetts general Sylvanus Thayer, father of the army corps of engineers, for no discernible reason.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:no but the train turns into a daemon who then fights another daemon, and the second daemon kills the train daemon, and then McNeill’s self insert Honsou kicks the winning daemon and makes him go kill other iron warriors i think what put me off warhammer books for so long was the first ones i tried were ultramrines books because i got into around when space marine came out.
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storm of iron was my first 40K book and it was good, and holds up, not because of the prose or the characterization but because it’s intensely atmospheric in the most 40K way possible: confusing, bombastic, contextless violence, starting without warning and ending without purpose.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:storm of iron was my first 40K book and it was good, and holds up, not because of the prose or the characterization but because it’s intensely atmospheric in the most 40K way possible: confusing, bombastic, contextless violence, starting without warning and ending without purpose. My first one, too. It really grabbed me when I read it. I had been reading Forgotten Reams stuff, but was getting really annoyed at all the endless whining, monologuing, and navel-gazing everytime a hero was less than perfect, and how the good guys always won. The grimdarkness and everyone being various shades of terrible was (and still is) a breath of fresh air.
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SPACE MARINE was my first Warhammer book, and I can't think of a better introduction.
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I was working in Workshop when BL started, and I *think* my first book was First and Only. I remember not thinking much of the William King Space Wolf books at the time.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:the next book in the ultramarines series after that is absolutely dreary, though, with nothing to recommend it. it also features the bizarre stylistic choice to name the main baddie after famous Massachusetts general Sylvanus Thayer, father of the army corps of engineers, for no discernible reason. What, really? Like just Silvanus (which is a historical Latin forename) or just Thayer? Either of those would be fine. If it's both together that's weird as hell.
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Genghis Cohen posted:What, really? Like just Silvanus (which is a historical Latin forename) or just Thayer? Either of those would be fine. If it's both together that's weird as hell. Would be a cool name for an Iron Warrior or maybe an Imperial Fist.
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a lovely king posted:He said it was connected to one of his own ongoing series, so I'd say that rules out Dawn of Fire. Titanicus sequel?
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serious gaylord posted:Titanicus sequel? The continued adventures of that  skitarii and his automatic grenade launcher.
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I'm like 2/3rds through the Fall of Cadia and there's something I don't get about the broader course of events. At the very beginning of the book, the Imperium has just repelled Abaddon's attack and the Cadians are partying and celebrating, thinking the war is won. So presumably, the planet was either fully or almost fully controlled by Imperial forces, with at most some mopping up to do. Spoiler alert, that wasn´t the case, and Abaddon comes knocking again with a new fleet out of the Eye. From that point onwards, most of the book features Abaddon's attack concentrating towards Kasr Kraf, which makes perfect sense as it's both the command center and the location of certain plot devices. The thing is - what is happening across the rest of the planet? At first I thought that Abaddon was just beelining for the prize and ignoring the rest of Cadia, but that made it weird how Creed was perennially starved for troops, if he had all the planet to draw upon (the book spans days if not weeks, so there was plenty of time for reinforcements to come). But then, at one point, Creed spurs his soldiers with "You are defending the last free city on Cadia!" - was the rest of the planet conquered off-screen between chapters, with nary a mention? If Abaddon has already taken almost all of the planet, why was Creed planning a defense in depth rather than a suicidal last stand / attack? I know warhams book shouldn´t be taken too seriously, but this is just a basic part of the scenario that left me thoroughly confused. Rath is a good author so I wouldn't expect him to just brazenly ignore the little detail that Cadia is a whole planet and not a single city. Perhaps this is detailed in the old Gathering Storm sourcebooks, but reading just the novel it sticks out.
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Cadia stands has little propaganda snippets/reports about it, kinda.Creeeeeeeeeeeeed posted:We have smashed an armoured column at Kasr Relon. The enemy has landed on Cadian soil in great force. We are the generation upon whose shoulders lies the heavy duty of sending them all to their deaths.’ Also its entierly possible that he was saying that as a force motivator. Telsa Cola fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Jan 9, 2024 |
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Simple answer is that the Fall of Cadia treats everything more like the battle for a big city rather than an entire planet, so once the action focuses in on the final location you just assume the rest of the planet died off-page. It was like that back during Gathering Storm, too.
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Oh Magnus you loving idiot, I forgot about this particular scene. A Thousand Sons posted:Magnus sensed one of their hidden pathways nearby and opened his inner eye, seeing the glittering fabric of the Great Ocean in all its revealed glory. The hidden capillaries of the alien network were visible as radiant lines of molten gold, and Magnus angled his course towards the nearest.  Hello Tzeench, so kind of you to selflessly lend me your power. AnEdgelord posted:Answer this for me A Thousand Sons posted:Far beneath the birthrock of the race that currently bestrode the galaxy as its would-be masters, a pulsing chamber throbbed with activity. Hundreds of metres high and many hundreds more wide, it hummed with machinery and reeked of blistering ozone. Once it had served as the Imperial Dungeon, but that purpose had long been subverted to another. While it is not explicitly stated that the Emperor isn't suffering horribly in this scene, there's nothing to indicate that he is suffering in any way. There is nothing like the descriptions in the later books that make it very clear that he is suffering. A Thousand Sons posted:The golden portal shone with its own inner light, as though some incredible heat from the other side was burning through the metal. Vast gunboxes fixed around the perimeter of the cave swung up, their barrels spooling up to fire. Lightning flashed from machine to machine as delicate, irreplaceable circuits overloaded and exploded. Adepts ran from the site of the breach, knowing little of what lay beyond, yet knowing enough to flee. I will say this is a phenomenal way to describe Magnus' psychic form. A few pages later, the aftermath of the meeting: A Thousand Sons posted:It had all been for nothing. Everything was unravelling around him faster than he could weave it back together. So the Emperor did not promise Magnus ahead of time that he'd get to chill on the Throne and it'd be awesome; he only showed him that after it was already too late, when the irreparable damage had been done. I would say Graham McNeil is about as much of a fan of using subtlety as Guy Haley is, which is to say not at all, so taking these passages and drawing the conclusion from them that the Emperor's goal was always for Magnus to be an eternal tormented sacrifice on the Throne is not supported by the text as written.
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Shockeh posted:I remember not thinking much of the William King Space Wolf books at the time. I'm re-reading the omnibus I have of it, first book is pretty good so far. It's the only book I've seen that really goes in depth about being an aspirant, and the only book I've found that REALLY plays with the idea of different tech levels on different planets (with Feneris' non-transhuman population being vikings in the Iron age compared to the Fang being all technology). But it also feels off from more modern 40k. Partly from the fact that the marines aren't just grim assholes who have no sense of what's important, but also BECAUSE Ragnar actually has to deal with poo poo left over from his previous life. I think some of my compalints about "Standard Space Marine" personalities are being fixed. Particularly in relation to the Wolves and the Scars and their successors, because them being "Vikings" and "Mongols" respectively means they have fun in fights. Calax fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Jan 9, 2024 |
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Genghis Cohen posted:What, really? Like just Silvanus (which is a historical Latin forename) or just Thayer? Either of those would be fine. If it's both together that's weird as hell. you know in your heart that it's both of them together
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serious gaylord posted:Titanicus sequel? Preferably with less chaff this time around then. Even if Abnett has confirmed he is/was working on the Double Eagle sequel a year ago or something. Shockeh posted:I was working in Workshop when BL started, and I *think* my first book was First and Only. I remember not thinking much of the William King Space Wolf books at the time. Mine was definitely the first paperback version of First & Only that I picked up on a whim in a nerd store years ago. After that I was doomed.
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