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priznat posted:It’s good but looks small, like Mazda 5 size. Which is great for a lot of people but I would rather have something odyssey/sienna/carnival sized. The us version is a 3 row so it's big Wish there was something like Honda element ev sigh
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OBAMNA PHONE posted:The us version is a 3 row so it's big Oh really? I saw Doug Dumuro do a walkthrough and it must have been the euro spec one. I’ll definitely check it out if so.
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It’s about 10 inches shorter than the Pacifica or Odyssey even for the three row, which is 195” long.
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Chimp_On_Stilts posted:It's dark right now so I can't get good pictures, but I'll post some maybe tomorrow if I have time for a photoshoot. Whatever you're happy to show off, I suppose. I think it's the first one in the thread and I can pretend it's going to be close to what an EV Carnival is going to end up as.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:It’s about 10 inches shorter than the Pacifica or Odyssey even for the three row, which is 195” long. Still a lot longer than a Mazda5 though.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:It’s about 10 inches shorter than the Pacifica or Odyssey even for the three row, which is 195” long. Yes sure, but most of that length difference is just wasted on the bonnet. The usable interior dimensions are pretty much equal.  
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Sounds like Honda is making some sort of EV announcement at CES today, 1:30 Eastern Time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYdfi_zkQDQ
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borkencode posted:Sounds like Honda is making some sort of EV announcement at CES today, 1:30 Eastern Time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYdfi_zkQDQ That thumbnail shot looks pretty cyberpunk. Is this the new era of wedge shaped cars?
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I'm the guy taking a video of their screen saver
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Element ev element ev element ev
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borkencode posted:Sounds like Honda is making some sort of EV announcement at CES today, 1:30 Eastern Time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYdfi_zkQDQ Cool, 2 concept mock ups for some line of ev's slated for "late 2020's". Just update, ramp up production, and bring that adorable Honda E to the US. Is that so hard, honda?
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Is there such a thing as an EVSE that turns into a V2L adapter during a power outage? I have a charger, and I have a V2L adapter and a bunch of extension cables, but it feels like it should be possible for those two things to be the same
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Talorat posted:Is there such a thing as an EVSE that turns into a V2L adapter during a power outage? I have a charger, and I have a V2L adapter and a bunch of extension cables, but it feels like it should be possible for those two things to be the same Only the one that comes with the Ford Lightning, for now. It's been promised so often, especially with Chademo, but nobody's adopted any of the standards yet. I really believe that in a few years, it will be the new normal. edit: The Lightning uses Bluetooth to communicate with the EVSE, and if you don't park in the right orientation / close enough, the antenna doesn't reach  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAC-e0o45zg
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Talorat posted:Is there such a thing as an EVSE that turns into a V2L adapter during a power outage? I have a charger, and I have a V2L adapter and a bunch of extension cables, but it feels like it should be possible for those two things to be the same I posted about a demo done by Wallbox back in September; they seem pretty serious about it, they're on the second iteration of the EVSE to support it (Quasar 2) over a CCS connection and it looks like most of the engineering/code challenges are figured out plus the new one looks really slick with fast response times to switch between car and grid automatically. Afaik it's available in the EU already and they announced it'll roll out in California starting early this year for people who own Kias, I guess. Emporia is also supposed to have a similar model coming out this year. Both of these companies tend to actually deliver on their crazy ideas so it's probably going to be A Thing now.
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OBAMNA PHONE posted:Element ev element ev element ev
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Nfcknblvbl posted:That thumbnail shot looks pretty cyberpunk. Is this the new era of wedge shaped cars? At least we're finally getting some proper future-looking cars  .....is what I would say if I thought the production model was going to look anywhere close to that
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Tom Guycot posted:Cool, 2 concept mock ups for some line of ev's slated for "late 2020's". People hate the E on a global basis and it’s going away
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OldSenileGuy posted:At least we're finally getting some proper future-looking cars The production version was also leaked:  KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:People hate the E on a global basis and it’s going away People have poor taste.
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Tom Guycot posted:People have poor taste. It's overpriced for the specs. It's adorable but that doesn't cut it these days.
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Tom Guycot posted:The production version was also leaked: Oh cool a Dodge
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Was really impressed with the polestar 2 I test drove this morning in NYC before a huge rain storm rolled in, was a midnight blue 2024 dual motor w/ pilot and plus packs which is the config we would want (or in thunder grey). Handled great on city streets and the small bit of highway we took it out on, and the one pedal mode was super easy to get used to. 99% sure we will be getting one before the end of January. Now I just need to get rid of our old as hell Elantra and start the lease process.
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Nfcknblvbl posted:It's overpriced for the specs. It's adorable but that doesn't cut it these days. People are idiots, a small, premium car with 150~ range is exactly what the market needs but people are insistant that the absolutely must have have 300 miles of range to make the road trip that they don't make and have no plans to make. I'm constantly amazed at how often people ask me about "roadtrips", honey, neither of us takes roadtrips, I'm not even sure that you can tell me the last time you flew economy was but I am sure you have a harrowing tale about it. Three Olives fucked around with this message at 02:53 on Jan 10, 2024 |
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Three Olives posted:People are idiots, a small, premium car with 150~ range is exactly what the market needs but people are insistant that the absolutely must have have 300 miles of range to make the road trip that they don't make and have no plans to make. The E didn't sell well in a market where EVs with 150 miles of range are common, and it had to compete with a very high sticker price. I'm pretty sure the 500e and electric Mini are coming to NA somewhat soon.
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guys I got an e-rabbit after my jetta got rear-ended and the range is just fine and even has dc fast charging!
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Tom Guycot posted:The production version was also leaked: why is car design generally so boring now i wish for a return to the 1980s car design if i can't get that, lets go to 2500 car design
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all suvs now are like a template that slightly modified by model/brand and a badge added lol
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The Ioniq 5 look really different imo, as does the Ioniq 6. The ID buzz looks pretty great. Cars are looking more interesting than they have looked in the previous 10 years thanks to EVs. Once the US stops being stupid about China cars and once Japan starts catching up I think we’ll see really cool cars stateside. It’s weird time to be complaining about boring cars.
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Nfcknblvbl posted:The E didn't sell well in a market where EVs with 150 miles of range are common, and it had to compete with a very high sticker price.
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Vegetable posted:The Ioniq 5 look really different imo, as does the Ioniq 6. The ID buzz looks pretty great. Cars are looking more interesting than they have looked in the previous 10 years thanks to EVs. Once the US stops being stupid about China cars and once Japan starts catching up I think we’ll see really cool cars stateside. It’s weird time to be complaining about boring cars. Features like steer by wire and innovate placement of battery elements should lead to some departures from conventional designs once companies start building EVs from the ground up rather than retrofitting motors and batteries into traditional frames. We’ll probably also see new classes of vehicles as autonomous operation becomes more viable and we realize that services like home delivery of food and goods don’t require 4000lb vehicles.
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Civil posted:Features like steer by wire and innovate placement of battery elements should lead to some departures from conventional designs once companies start building EVs from the ground up rather than retrofitting motors and batteries into traditional frames. We’ll probably also see new classes of vehicles as autonomous operation becomes more viable and we realize that services like home delivery of food and goods don’t require 4000lb vehicles.
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AtomicSX posted:Was really impressed with the polestar 2 I test drove this morning in NYC before a huge rain storm rolled in, was a midnight blue 2024 dual motor w/ pilot and plus packs which is the config we would want (or in thunder grey). Handled great on city streets and the small bit of highway we took it out on, and the one pedal mode was super easy to get used to. 99% sure we will be getting one before the end of January. AWD with Pilot and Plus is what I got too, I've been very satisfied with those choices. I just didn't like the feel of the Performance pack, the base model with AWD feels plenty "performant" to me
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Tom Guycot posted:The production version was also leaked: Well this is the AI subforum.
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Three Olives posted:
Oh man, on our local FB page there was a bit of anti-EV dogpiling and one guy said EVs suck because they have crap range that means "you cant drive between cities" The distance to the closest city for him or me - 2,700km (Perth to Adelaide) The number of times in the 40 years i have lived here that I've made or even contemplated that trip - 0 ROFLBOT fucked around with this message at 05:22 on Jan 10, 2024 |
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ROFLBOT posted:Oh man, on our local FB page there was a bit of anti-EV dogpiling and one guy said EVs suck because they have crap range that means "you cant drive between cities" A 2023 AWD ID.4 (pretty middle of the pack car, range-wise) can make the trip from Perth to Adelaide, with three driving segments limited to 90 km/h, so I'd imagine something longer legged like a RWD LR Model 3 or Ioniq 6 could handle it with no restrictions. So he's not even correct.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:why is car design generally so boring now If we haven’t gotten rid of cars by 2500, the planet won’t be here either.
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The toyota/subaru solterra I rented from avis was a piece of poo poo but reading on that car one of the options is solar panels for recharging so you can maybe do that trip as it is sunny in australia.
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Elviscat posted:A 2023 AWD ID.4 (pretty middle of the pack car, range-wise) can make the trip from Perth to Adelaide, with three driving segments limited to 90 km/h, so I'd imagine something longer legged like a RWD LR Model 3 or Ioniq 6 could handle it with no restrictions. Oh you can absolutely do it nowadays there are enough charging points along the Nullarbor, i'm assuming he meant on a single charge which is a hilariously stupid bar to set when there isn't an ICE car alive that could do that trip on a single tank of fuel either And that's quite apart from the question of why you would base any car purchasing decision on wanting to spend 2 days driving to Adelaide in the first place 
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Nfcknblvbl posted:I'm pretty sure the 500e and electric Mini are coming to NA somewhat soon. Is the electric Mini not already here? I definitely saw one the other day.
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Russian Bear posted:If we haven’t gotten rid of cars by 2500, the planet won’t be here either. The planet will absolutely be here. What condition it’s in and how people are doing is another matter.
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