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Frosted Flake posted:
I mean I am that guy. Thankfully my wife and I are on the same page. I confess I tone-down my CSPAM opinions in IRL conversations with friends/coworkers because my sense is most people don't want to hear about covid, climate change, the economy, etc... But Mrs. Parasite and I are on the same page with that stuff too. I can't really blame people for not wanting to think about just how lovely everything is, but I don't have the option.
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Jan 9, 2024 04:03
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FF it may be helpful (later after illness has passed) to ask what questions she specifically has to respond to for her SC that have her on edge then explain to her that it is the height of civic responsibility to question the actions of one’s government and that doing so and finding you disapprove or disagree does not imply whatever the bad thing is on the question list. Also it may be helpful to think hard about what your goals with covid are (probably avoiding it) and see if she also shares that goal. Find out what her goal(s) are, no one wants to be sick after all, and develop a shared orientation. From that shared orientation discuss concrete steps towards achieving the goal that are comfortable for you both. If she does not engage with it as much as you would wish, resorting to her common deflections, remind her that this is a shared goal and you need her to work with you.
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Jan 9, 2024 04:09
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Pingui posted:Backlog clearance hmm. having arthritis feelings in my knees and wrists this week and been hobbling around like an old. tried to do a small amount of stretching excercise yesterday and an hour later had some chest/left ribs sharp pains. took a resveratrol and improved a bit. guess i need to stay in very low activity mode for a few more weeks. i have brought up possibly having marfans w doctors before (some minor symptoms) and they were like i dunno maybe, you can get some tests for $$, so i never did. is it worth going to effort to get that officially diagnosed or one of those things where they just say oh yeah eat healthy and dont exercise too much seeya later. Charlatan Eschaton has issued a correction as of 21:30 on Jan 9, 2024 |
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Jan 9, 2024 04:16
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https://x.com/nukittobesure/status/1744543853137547381?s=46&t=f1MRhF2xe8gNhr6WGxk_NA
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Jan 9, 2024 04:27
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:https://www.hindustantimes.com/worl...4720332331.html death to america
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Jan 9, 2024 04:30
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Dren posted:FF it may be helpful (later after illness has passed) to ask what questions she specifically has to respond to for her SC that have her on edge then explain to her that it is the height of civic responsibility to question the actions of one’s government and that doing so and finding you disapprove or disagree does not imply whatever the bad thing is on the question list. That's good advice, thanks.
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Jan 9, 2024 04:42
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Frosted Flake posted:my SO is seeing spots just from lifting her computer bag, she complains about . . . a pressure like "someone sitting on her chest".
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Jan 9, 2024 05:08
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i like nice words
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Chamale posted:What's the best N95 specifically meant for exercise? I can play dodgeball in a duckbill N95, but I'm playing some basketball this winter and that involves a lot more running. Adding to the 9211 chorus. After maybe 10 hours total active use I find they get way worse for trapping moisture and I toss 'em. And I can't go more than 1.5 hours continuous active use, gotta swap for a dry one. Exact numbers probably different for you but I got a handle on it after a couple weeks. (This is 4v4 ultimate frisbee on a basketball court, so lots of start-stop sprinting.) Also shoutout to whoever suggested buyingdirect.ca, just ordered some more 9211+s!
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Jan 9, 2024 06:40
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Pingui posted:Empathy, love and understanding foremost. Beyond that take anything and everything with a grain of salt. Keep in mind I don't know you or your wife. Anne Whateley posted:Sorry for ignoring all the emotional stuff, but this is the point where I would be really concerned and buckling up to go to the urgent care. Did she do the pulse ox or is it just you who seems fine? If her, how “all right” is her number, and how much do you want to bet on a piece of aliexpress plastic? Has she tried lying on her stomach, does that help? Would she be willing to see a doctor if you agreed it could certainly be the flu and it would be equally concerning if that symptom came from the flu? Maybe it’s just me, but struggling to breathe like that sets off a lot of alarm bells, especially since it can suddenly worsen at probably like 3 am. good posts, especially about side-stepping the "is it COVID" issue for now and focusing on how she physically feels because feeling like something is sitting on your chest is a definite yellow flag to keep an eye on. You also don't want her to feel like she has to start hiding symptoms from you either. DickParasite posted:I mean I am that guy. Thankfully my wife and I are on the same page.  I'm incredibly grateful my boss doesn't seem to care that I mask, at least in any way that impacts me professionally. I'm assuming he got a little annoyed that I didn't offer take it off for an outdoor group photo back in 2022, and might be disappointed that I don't join in as many optional social things than I used to (switching to an open office layout has left me feeling pretty worn out on some days so it's hard to say if that would be much different even if COVID never happened). Still, he's never actually said anything to me directly nor implied or hinted indirectly about it, and he keeps renewing my appointment and even gave me a raise last year, so I feel pretty secure there.I will admit since the peak of BA.1 I will only discuss COVID with someone who isn't masking if it's brought up by the other person first. In 2023 I believe that only happened three times, and one of those was by accident (they were already talking about it amongst themselves when I joined the group). So, so grateful Mr. Zantie is on the same page too. I don't want to think about where I'd be mentally if he wasn't, and I'm so glad he clued me into this thread a couple years ago cause you guys have been an amazing resource and helped me more times than I can count. Sometimes I still feel like I "joined late" but now I can't even remember if I started posting in late 2020 or early 2021, lol
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Jan 9, 2024 06:48
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Anne Whateley posted:Sorry for ignoring all the emotional stuff, but this is the point where I would be really concerned and buckling up to go to the urgent care. Did she do the pulse ox or is it just you who seems fine? If her, how “all right” is her number, and how much do you want to bet on a piece of aliexpress plastic? Has she tried lying on her stomach, does that help? Would she be willing to see a doctor if you agreed it could certainly be the flu and it would be equally concerning if that symptom came from the flu? Maybe it’s just me, but struggling to breathe like that sets off a lot of alarm bells, especially since it can suddenly worsen at probably like 3 am. I agree, describing pressure to the extent of "someone is sitting on my chest" isn't great. I'd be at the doctors even if I thought it was "just the flu".
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Jan 9, 2024 07:02
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Yeah tbc I’d be at urgent care if it was 2019 and the flu was the worst thing it could be
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Jan 9, 2024 07:11
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One of the pernicious things about the current situation is that people are really pressured to minimize symptoms so you get people who would have gone to the ER or urgent care four years ago MILDing it up until they're in a bad way now. Given FF's description of describing any level of attention to the problem as "antigovernment" I wouldn't be surprised if she was doing exactly that.
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Jan 9, 2024 07:22
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Are you even bringing up the government in these conversations with her, or is she doing it unprompted? The government sucks rear end, but that’s a longer term and more abstract topic than “what should we do now that we’re sick?” Nuclear option: deflect accusations of hating the government by vociferously hating your sister‐in‐law.
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Jan 9, 2024 08:44
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They’re attributing the Crown Heights synagogue tunnel to LOCKDOWNS. https://www.tiktok.com/embed/7321935985732816174 quote:New York Police discovered a secret tunnel under a synagogue in New York City that allowed members of the Jewish sect Hasidic, to attend the synagogue during lockdown. Who can forget the Great New York City Lockdown of July 2023?
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Jan 9, 2024 08:50
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If you didn't notice its probably because you were locked down.
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Jan 9, 2024 08:53
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Zantie posted:This is so painful. I get the black&white logic of "I was ultimately the one who made the decision to take my mask down" as in, when told to unmask for a job interview there was technically a point that they could have declined and left. But the way the world actually works flies in the face of that in little moments like this for so many people. It's like if you're in need of anything, a job, dental care, whatever, without having an immediate indicator for "COVID is present" to reassure oneself to try again later, there's always the risk of missing out on an opportunity to obtain something needed because actual risk in that moment was lower than perceived risk. This is why I cringe a little when someone (here, on twitter, whenever) says all unfiltered air is poison, because if you then "willingly" share in that air it automatically implies you are then responsible for it you get unlucky. Even if someone is able to maintain compassion towards others who get got, they might not be so forgiving to themselves if it happens to them. O.K. but Anthony Fauci, “the world’s foremost expert on infectious disease”, deserves to be reminded of how he unmasked at a college reunion, where they were naming a building in his honor, and contracted the virus within three quarter of an hour.
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Jan 9, 2024 09:02
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Platystemon posted:Are you even bringing up the government in these conversations with her, or is she doing it unprompted? This is CATO wife we are talking about here right? You're not dealing with the average neolib...
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Jan 9, 2024 09:04
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Platystemon posted:They’re attributing the Crown Heights synagogue tunnel to LOCKDOWNS. We had a somewhat related incident during the 2021 Melbourne lockdowns when a group of orthodox Jews defied the lockdown laws to gather for Rosh Hashanah which ended up with a long standoff with police (who were understandably reluctant to kick the doors in and drag people out), several people climbing up onto the roof to jump across to other buildings and escape, a mini-riot and tussles with the press, and reports in some places that they'd used a secret entrance to access the prayer room https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9975731/Melbourne-synagogue-worshipper-walks-rooftops-allegedly-use-secret-entrance.html A whole lot of people got big mad and a bunch of my Jewish friends were making social media posts going "Uhhh I know we're not supposed to criticize our own community in front of the goyim but seriously wtf you guys" Snowglobe of Doom has issued a correction as of 11:14 on Jan 9, 2024 |
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Jan 9, 2024 11:08
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For a fun anecdote, from my coworker coming to work at peak covid illness/infectiousness, working with others with absolutely no masking in a 20'x20' room, none of the 5 other people got it.
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Jan 9, 2024 11:21
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Asproigerosis posted:For a fun anecdote, from my coworker coming to work at peak covid illness/infectiousness, working with others with absolutely no masking in a 20'x20' room, none of the 5 other people got it. Vaxxed?
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Jan 9, 2024 11:48
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Yeah but like way the gently caress back when they first came out and only the jj one to keep their jobs. No boostin.
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Jan 9, 2024 11:52
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Asproigerosis posted:Yeah but like way the gently caress back when they first came out and only the jj one to keep their jobs. No boostin. Huh, that’s odd. Your employer wouldn’t happen to require annual inoculation against influenza, would they?
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Jan 9, 2024 12:48
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FF the "you're just mad at the government" thing cracks me up cause yes, absolutely. How could anyone with a realistic picture not be? If we actually adhere to some liberal notion of meritocracy then the abject incompetence of leadership on COVID (among other things) should leave any thinking person livid, and if we don't being pissed as hell still makes sense, because those in power have the ability to save countless lives and have deliberately chosen not to. It's very lol lmao to me, sorry. I hope you can work through stuff. I definitely agree with others that it might be worthwhile to try and adjust framing towards a common shared goal, such as avoiding illness and the associated misery, as that's at least more practical and narrow and less obviously political.
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Jan 9, 2024 12:59
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bobtheconqueror posted:FF the "you're just mad at the government" thing cracks me up cause yes, absolutely. How could anyone with a realistic picture not be? yeah, I can’t imagine not being mad at any western government for some reason right now. lol. big +1 to “seeing spots whilst lifting a pound and having lots of chest pressure is a big deal regardless of the specific virus” crew.
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Jan 9, 2024 13:21
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Thanks to the above, I took her in this morning. We tested negative, so our unspecified respiratory illness may just be that we caught covid over xmas and it's not showing up anymore? Anyway, no Pax, and there's no real post-covid or long covid treatment protocol, so we'll just have to take it easy. I'm glad I did though, because lol in 2020 she complained of a "back ache" that turned out to be a kidney infection. It got pretty bad before she couldn't hide her flop sweat and physical pain and agreed to go to the hospital. I didn't realize that much of our personalities came through in my posts.
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Jan 9, 2024 13:49
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Frosted Flake posted:Thanks to the above, I took her in this morning. glad to hear it bud. Hope you and Mrs. Flake feel better soon.
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Jan 9, 2024 14:06
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Frosted Flake posted:That's good advice, thanks. Hopefully you don’t end up with my problem where my wife agrees ‘Yes, we should avoid COVID’ but then considers everything you actually need to do to avoid catching COVID other to be a ridiculous restriction that isn’t worth the effort.
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Jan 9, 2024 14:10
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Thoguh posted:Hopefully you don’t end up with my problem where my wife agrees ‘Yes, we should avoid COVID’ but then considers everything you actually need to do to avoid catching COVID other to be a ridiculous restriction that isn’t worth the effort. My concern is that she considers everything you actually need to do to avoid catching COVID sedition.
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Jan 9, 2024 14:20
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Thoguh posted:Hopefully you don’t end up with my problem where my wife agrees ‘Yes, we should avoid COVID’ but then considers everything you actually need to do to avoid catching COVID other to be a ridiculous restriction that isn’t worth the effort. this is likely where my marriage will be after the baby gets her primary vax sequence in a couple of months. I think we’d have common ground WRT avoiding obviously sick coworkers and mask in during holiday season, but that might be it. here’s to hoping that treatments and vaccines improve quickly. if not, I’m not even sure that the stress was worth it. as a leftist, I’m used to losing, but it really sucks when your heart and brain and the hearts and brains of everyone you love are on the line.
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Jan 9, 2024 14:29
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so many of our cafeteria workers are on "temporary leaves of absence to care for their families" one of the school cafeterias is entirely shut down until further notice. this is absolutely grim
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Jan 9, 2024 14:32
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Frosted Flake posted:Thanks to the above, I took her in this morning. Here are some resources for positioning to help breathing. These pages don’t mention the word covid, so no worries about showing them to her, but my understanding is proning (lying on your stomach) can especially help for covid. https://myhealth.alberta.ca/Health/aftercareinformation/pages/conditions.aspx?hwid=acl6891 https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/articles/9446-positions-to-reduce-shortness-of-breath As you know, encouraging her to stay in bed / take it easy is probably about all you can do now besides treating symptoms. 
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Jan 9, 2024 15:06
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Frosted Flake posted:(..) I hope everything works out in the end for you  But I wanted to highlight this part, as I vaguely recall you being black and remind you that pulse oximeters work poorly on black people, tending to read something as alright when it isn't.
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Jan 9, 2024 15:22
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bobtheconqueror posted:FF the "you're just mad at the government" thing cracks me up cause yes, absolutely. How could anyone with a realistic picture not be? What really gets me down is that here we have a whole forum of people who are very critical of the government, very skeptical of narratives manufactured by the media, who by and large have a huge blind spot for covid. Liberals, sure, we all know they love brunch, but I did expect a little better from leftists.
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Jan 9, 2024 15:30
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Frosted Flake posted:My concern is that she considers everything you actually need to do to avoid catching COVID sedition. lol
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Jan 9, 2024 15:47
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Rochallor posted:What really gets me down is that here we have a whole forum of people who are very critical of the government, very skeptical of narratives manufactured by the media, who by and large have a huge blind spot for covid. Liberals, sure, we all know they love brunch, but I did expect a little better from leftists.  anyone who won't put on a mask to protect the most vulnerable among us sure as gently caress isn't gonna offer any assistance when cops are banging down that same person's door
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Jan 9, 2024 15:59
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something I’ve thought about when I’ve talked to friends and family about their issues that probably have come from a covid infection is that prior to covid a lot of my friends who are women and my spouse talked a lot about how medical providers shrug off their concerns and to me it’s like we’re all now getting that. think about all the people you know or personal experiences with providers not helping with endometriosis or other significant women’s health conditions and apply that to everyone regarding Covid and the resulting syndromes, etc.
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Jan 9, 2024 16:08
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:
the vulnerable real people in their real lives that they nominally have personal affection for and community with!! not even random strangers, like, their loved ones! just won't do it. nuh uh!
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Jan 9, 2024 16:13
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Rochallor posted:What really gets me down is that here we have a whole forum of people who are very critical of the government, very skeptical of narratives manufactured by the media, who by and large have a huge blind spot for covid. Liberals, sure, we all know they love brunch, but I did expect a little better from leftists. For most people beliefs are a consumerist aesthetic, just like what car they choose to drive or what they're going to wear today.
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Jan 9, 2024 16:17
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Rochallor posted:What really gets me down is that here we have a whole forum of people who are very critical of the government, very skeptical of narratives manufactured by the media, who by and large have a huge blind spot for covid. Liberals, sure, we all know they love brunch, but I did expect a little better from leftists. 
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https://coloradosun.com/2024/01/09/meals-on-wheels-covid-dollars/ posted:Services for older Coloradans, like Meals on Wheels, are running out as COVID aid ends and senior population grows *clears throat* Vote!
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