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Noxville posted:I feel like ‘should the wrongly convicted have their convictions overturned’ should be the easiest question in the world to answer, especially for a ‘former human rights lawyer’ but maybe that’s why I’m not the leader of the Labour Party. This oval office would means test bears for their right to poo poo in woods
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Jan 8, 2024 21:02
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there were likely many videos taken by maxwell/epstein of a bunch of rich and powerful folk noncing kids- it was a honeypot blackmail operation to facilitate the crimes of, then extort rich and powerful folk noncing kids, they kinda need evidence for that to work no way in gently caress will anyone of consequences face any consequences
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Jan 8, 2024 21:05
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Is that Dyson prick on the flight logs?
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Jan 8, 2024 21:08
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WhatEvil posted:As somebody who suffers from extreme anxiety I have to say it's a bit disappointing that the thread seems to be going off on one about what an arsehole this guy is, based on not very much. I don’t think the guy’s an arsehole, I just think Sanford needs to be careful: if he’s gone to HR about something relatively innocuous, there’s no guarantee it won’t happen again and Sanford needs to be sure that if there is a next time, he’s got something to back up his side of the argument
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Jan 8, 2024 21:30
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Noxville posted:I feel like ‘should the wrongly convicted have their convictions overturned’ should be the easiest question in the world to answer, especially for a ‘former human rights lawyer’ but maybe that’s why I’m not the leader of the Labour Party. The level of injustice in question, the loving look on his face there and the swollen muddy, presumably poo poo infested river behind, how do you not just instinctively launch the little oval office?
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Jan 8, 2024 21:45
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Clearly the only solution to this football coverage dispute is to bring back David Icke.
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Jan 8, 2024 21:46
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keep punching joe posted:Is that Dyson prick on the flight logs?
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Jan 8, 2024 21:51
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mossyfisk posted:Clearly the only solution to this football coverage dispute is to bring back David Icke. A great goal there by Ollie Watkins, you can tell he hasn't been injected with marker genes by the ascendant lizard cabal
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Jan 8, 2024 21:53
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Albinator posted:Turns out the person who said there were tapes later said she'd been making it up so the headline is kind of clickbaity. Two plus hours of happiness from that headline, i'll take what i can get. 
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Jan 8, 2024 22:27
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The fact remains he did have his mansion and island wired up with hidden cctv cameras in every room, so I'm pretty certain those tapes do exist but probably sit in a vault in Tel Aviv. e: oops, forgot what I came here to post: https://twitter.com/GBNewsSpin/status/1744462911983046812 fuctifino fucked around with this message at 22:33 on Jan 8, 2024 |
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Jan 8, 2024 22:31
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smellmycheese posted:Oh poo poo! thats a hell of a lemon party
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Jan 8, 2024 22:50
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Noxville posted:I feel like ‘should the wrongly convicted have their convictions overturned’ should be the easiest question in the world to answer, especially for a ‘former human rights lawyer’ but maybe that’s why I’m not the leader of the Labour Party. You know, maybe the olds dislike of Labour comes from being the only ones still watching broadcast TV and seeing the idiot actually speak regularly.
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Jan 8, 2024 22:57
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WhatEvil posted:As somebody who suffers from extreme anxiety I have to say it's a bit disappointing that the thread seems to be going off on one about what an arsehole this guy is, based on not very much. agreed, while I doubt it was a malicious statement it wasn't a good thing to say to someone with severe MH issues
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Jan 8, 2024 22:57
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I'm sure Sanford didn't mean anything by it, but I also can understand if the guy thought it was worth raising with management. To be clear the "made a snarky comment and laughed at them" part of my post was how it could easily have been seen by the other person, through the lens of anxiety, and not me saying that I thought Sanford had said what they said maliciously or done anything wrong beyond perhaps not being quite guarded enough. I do have sympathy for Sanford and I know from literally everything I've seen them post ITT that they're a good, well-meaning person. My issue was more that some in the thread seemed to be implying the anxiety sufferer was taking the piss in some way by not being able to work or reporting the interaction etc. when it's likely they're just having a really hard time. Anxiety fucks with you. It's difficult to accurately judge the intent of others when you're already panicked and in a work (or other) situation that you're finding stressful, for whatever reason.
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Jan 8, 2024 23:17
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I feel like there might be some practical challenges to blackmailing people with images of child sexual abuse you filmed on your property and then decided not to release to the police until years afterwards, abuse performed by someone who can easily reveal your involvement if for some reason they feel like they no longer have anything to lose, but admittedly I do not spend a lot of time thinking through this kind of thing
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Jan 8, 2024 23:49
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Angepain posted:I feel like there might be some practical challenges to blackmailing people with images of child sexual abuse you filmed on your property and then decided not to release to the police until years afterwards, abuse performed by someone who can easily reveal your involvement if for some reason they feel like they no longer have anything to lose, but admittedly I do not spend a lot of time thinking through this kind of thing Being dead will probably help him avoid further repercussions?
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Jan 8, 2024 23:54
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Being dead will probably help him avoid further repercussions? *clap* NONCE *clap* ISLAND *clap* CADAVER *clap* SYNOD
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Jan 8, 2024 23:59
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WhatEvil posted:I'm sure Sanford didn't mean anything by it, but I also can understand if the guy thought it was worth raising with management. Have a lot of empathy with Sanford as have been in a similar situation managing someone who was clearly very unwell, doing very little work as well as a lot of damage to others wellbeing, while not having much power to do anything about that save to offer more time off. Unless you're a mental health pro, and even if you are, you simply can't be expected to say the right thing every time. Some days I did a lot better than others, but it was exhausting. This is in the right place now, it simply had to go up the ladder. It's been Sanford's to deal with for far too long already. Our lot eventually funded a counsellor before in the end the staff member cut ties.
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Jan 9, 2024 00:01
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fuctifino posted:The fact remains he did have his mansion and island wired up with hidden cctv cameras in every room, so I'm pretty certain those tapes do exist but probably sit in a vault in Tel Aviv. that's actually JRM's true form
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Jan 9, 2024 00:21
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As much as I love to laugh at GBNews, it's quite a terrifying platform https://twitter.com/GBNewsSpin/status/1744478824958402615 The Tories are imploding and will be unelectable for a generation or more, so there's a vacuum of voters who can never vote for Labour, even if it's headed by a Tory and has Tory policies. Plus this vacuum of ignorant gammon cunts want to be even more harsher towards minorities and the vulnerable than Labour are willing to go. Keith is expecting a landslide victory, but I have to remind everyone the power of the media vs the stupidity of the nation. Look at Brexit/voting reform/GE2019 etc. I can see Rishi hanging on until the November deadline. A lot can happen in that time.
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Jan 9, 2024 01:12
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fuctifino posted:As much as I love to laugh at GBNews, it's quite a terrifying platform I keep seeing this "Tories will be unelectable for a generation or more" thing crop up every now and then and.. when? How? Why? Since 2010 they've just gotten a a new leader in when they're unlikable and people, most egregiously the media, seem to forget that it's the exact same people as the last government and give them a blank slate.
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Jan 9, 2024 07:42
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Angepain posted:I feel like there might be some practical challenges to blackmailing people with images of child sexual abuse you filmed on your property and then decided not to release to the police until years afterwards, abuse performed by someone who can easily reveal your involvement if for some reason they feel like they no longer have anything to lose, but admittedly I do not spend a lot of time thinking through this kind of thing I suppose if you're a child abusing perv your line of thought doesn't go further than "oh gently caress I'll be in the poo poo if the press gets hold of that" and the only thing your blackmailer has to be careful of is not pushing you far enough that you're willing to burn your whole life down.
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Jan 9, 2024 08:14
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Miftan posted:I keep seeing this "Tories will be unelectable for a generation or more" thing crop up every now and then and.. when? How? Why? Since 2010 they've just gotten a a new leader in when they're unlikable and people, most egregiously the media, seem to forget that it's the exact same people as the last government and give them a blank slate. I think the expectation is that if they get a truly cataclysmic result in the GE they'll be shattered as a political party because almost a decade and a half of awful policies will have finally come home to roost and left them irretrievably tainted by both a terrible track record and being proven losers of the highest order. I think that's optimistic personally (It's not like all the money behind the tories is going to go anywhere) but I can see the logic if you're expecting they'll get electorally wiped out, like no joking down to double-digit numbers of MPs.
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Jan 9, 2024 08:53
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Ms Adequate posted:I think the expectation is that if they get a truly cataclysmic result in the GE they'll be shattered as a political party because almost a decade and a half of awful policies will have finally come home to roost and left them irretrievably tainted by both a terrible track record and being proven losers of the highest order. I think that's optimistic personally (It's not like all the money behind the tories is going to go anywhere) but I can see the logic if you're expecting they'll get electorally wiped out, like no joking down to double-digit numbers of MPs. The great hope is that Labour slightly improve things*, and a whole generation who remember nothing but Tory rule come to realise that the government can actually make things better, instead of literally doing everything they can to make things worse for all but the very richest. *I am not convinced this will happen
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Jan 9, 2024 09:06
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I do truly believe Labour will be better at convincing people that increasing hardship is regrettably necessary
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Jan 9, 2024 09:16
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My personal hope is that Starmer is enough of a windsock to bow to public pressure.
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Jan 9, 2024 09:37
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Regarding the colleague potentially having anxiety issues, that is an angle I hadn't considered. I suppose I would have assumed that that's something it would be easier to be understanding if you knew in advance that someone has, while someone who has it would likely not want to just openly disclose that. That said, the situation Sanford was in, telling the boss he was swamped with work, and then not actually getting relief coverage, was objectively lovely. If the boss knew the relief hire wasn't covering the slack then he should have hired in an additional person.
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Jan 9, 2024 09:38
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The Tories as being over as a party is that the 90s repeats, where the party tore itself apart over Europe and then locked in Labour for 13 years. They then only got in by shutting the gently caress up about Europe, relying on a world-shattering financial crisis to hamstring Labour, and then not even getting in outright and using the piss diamonds to take the reins. They then almost immediately started banging on about Europe in order to distract people from the financial ruin they were causing with austerity (which sure didn't feel like austerity to their mates and donors) and won an election outright on Europe, then did their referendum on Europe, and have now catastrophically damaged the economy both over Brexit and letting the world's least intelligent goldendoodle be Prime Minister for 8 weeks and then replaced her with a tiny Indian man which has infuriated both the Boris populists (the Betrayer!) and the arch-tories (he's brown). The populists of course are what brought the party victory in 2015 and 2019 (May hosed it in 2017 by not appealing to their idiotic concerns) and those people are more instinctively aligned with Farage and similar dickheads. So Tice et al are an existential threat to the tories as they are now bleeding their support three ways - morons to Starmerist Labour, freaks to the piss diamonds, and populist morons to Reform UK or whatever stupid name they have this time.
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Jan 9, 2024 09:48
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Tesseraction posted:letting the world's least intelligent goldendoodle be Prime Minister for 8 weeks Legit didn't know if this was Boris or Truss until I read the last part of that sentence.
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Jan 9, 2024 09:56
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escapegoat posted:My personal hope is that Starmer is enough of a windsock to bow to public pressure. There are stats that say that Millennials and below are not turning right in anywhere the numbers the previous generations did. (Boomers went right a lot harder than any other generation). There is a hope that the Torys get destroyed enough that they are out for two election cycles, and after ten years the voting makeup will have changed. escapegoat posted:My personal hope is that Starmer is enough of a windsock to bow to public pressure. There is also this - as we've gone on, Cameron's centralist party has been replaced by right wingers - there is a good chance that public and backbench pressure could shift Starmer more and more left as things go on. Of course. Trying to predict politics is a mugs game.
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Jan 9, 2024 09:59
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It can be both! I'm waiting for the fracture between the "the birthrate of native indigenous proper (look I'm not a racist don't make me say the race words) Britons is too low" Tories and the "look I'm not paying anyone anything, cut the taxes on my 50 houses again" Tories to kick in, since that looks like the upcoming and most hilarious fight.
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Jan 9, 2024 10:01
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Miftan posted:Legit didn't know if this was Boris or Truss until I read the last part of that sentence. Boris is more of an Old English Sheepdog with a bad bleachjob.
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Jan 9, 2024 10:01
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Tesseraction posted:Regarding the colleague potentially having anxiety issues, that is an angle I hadn't considered. He states this is the case in the initial post he made regarding the whole situation. Its what everyone was talking about.
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Jan 9, 2024 10:14
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NotJustANumber99 posted:He states this is the case in the initial post he made regarding the whole situation. Its what everyone was talking about. Yeah, reading back on it now I completely missed that line. That's on me. The boss not hiring a second helper is on him though.
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Jan 9, 2024 10:23
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I spoke to him briefly this morning and said sorry if you thought I was getting at you, I’m just exasperated with the amount of work I’ve got on. He said “we all say stupid things without thinking but APOLOGY ACCEPTED” so I am trying to avoid my thinking moving to a position of “gently caress this guy.” When he asked for leave for the entirety of March and half of April ‘to get himself sorted out’ I was right there telling the boss that was a small investment to keep hold of a good person, and I covered all his poo poo without complaint. Multiple times in the last year I’ve got a message around 7am advising I need to be 100 miles away by 9 to keep one of his appointments, multiple other times I’ve got a call from customers saying their new client manager is “unavailable” and can I support them instead. I know this is on me but there are multiple, multiple times I’ve covered for him with clients and colleagues, and I’ve always supported him when the boss has asked if we should just look to get someone else. Thinking about it, the amount of times he’s thrown stuff to me when he’s off, I bet the office thought he was WFH when he was using me to cover anything urgent. Just to address the “ we should have got someone else” yes I totally agree, but the role includes understanding our software, the applicable legislation, and handling recently-bereaved individuals and the charities that want their slice of the estate. I’ve said enough times in here it’s not a hard job, but it’s not one anyone could pick up at a moments notice. Balancing that “I know everyone is rightly upset but we’ve got to get this sorted” is not the easiest thing and certainly not an attractive role for many people. When he’s around he’s good at the job and handles people well, and I have totally been his strongest supporter, word and deed, when it comes to helping him get through it rather than replacing him. But lord am I tired of this.
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Jan 9, 2024 10:39
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gently caress that guy
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Jan 9, 2024 10:42
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Miftan posted:I keep seeing this "Tories will be unelectable for a generation or more" thing crop up every now and then and.. when? How? Why? Since 2010 they've just gotten a a new leader in when they're unlikable and people, most egregiously the media, seem to forget that it's the exact same people as the last government and give them a blank slate. It's hopeless optimism. Kieth will ensure a Tory comeback in at very most 10 years
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Jan 9, 2024 10:43
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forkboy84 posted:It's hopeless optimism. Kieth will ensure a Tory comeback in at very most 10 years 100%. We will see exactly the same poo poo happen here as in the US. One term of a poo poo left wing government overseen by someone wholly unfit for the challenges the country faces followed by super-fascism making a spectacular comeback.
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Jan 9, 2024 10:45
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Failed Imagineer posted:gently caress that guy 
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[quote="Tesseraction" post="537043122"] They then almost immediately started banging on about Europe in order to distract people from the financial ruin they were causing with austerity (which sure didn't feel like austerity to their mates and donors) [/q] Well, it wouldn't. From 2010 to 2015 the total wealth of the rich in Britain increased by an amount almost exactly the same as the amount cut from public spending in the same time. The money hasn't stopped existing for public spending, the Tories just stole it. The more recent PPE scandal only made the theft too obvious to hide, which is why Michelle Mone is being thrown to the wolves.
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