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Serious_Cyclone posted:
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Jan 10, 2024 19:06
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I will give my own closing arguments, the most perfect closing arguments I am a closer
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kazil posted:thanks, I'll give it a go, though on desktop it doesn't make it as obvious that some are videos Can I just say that I prefer the previous style of tweet linking + screenshotting because if you do it all in one like this, it means the embed doesn't work and you have to click through to hellsite to watch the video. Or quote the text, etc
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Jan 10, 2024 19:06
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mystes posted:They should just agree that trump can give the closing argument but engoron gets to listen to music on his earphones and play candy crush while trump does that That, or just point a dead camera at Trump and tell him he’s live on TV, then let him rant and rave until he tires out while everyone else just heads home.
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Jan 10, 2024 19:09
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Donald Trump is incapable of limiting the scope of his statements.
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Jan 10, 2024 19:11
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withak posted:Donald Trump is incapable of limiting the scope of his statements. Also I don't know how this poo poo works but imagine that closing arguments have got to be less important with a judge whose job it is to keep track of all the arguments anyway than a jury that's going to go with the last persuasive argument they heard and forget everything else
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Jan 10, 2024 19:15
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StrangersInTheNight posted:exactly - in retrospect, The Daily Show was just capitalizing on a trend of the time and we were so eager to go along with it, we ate it up and naively called it resistance.
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Jan 10, 2024 19:18
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The only thing Trump loves as much as himself is a platform to tell everyone how great he is/how much someone else sucks.
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Jan 10, 2024 19:19
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So hot right now! For someone who claims to be so vehemently opposed to gender affirming surgery she sure seems to get a lot. 
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Jan 10, 2024 19:19
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Trump literally doesn't understand what he did wrong when it comes to this trial, all he knows is that he has spent decades lying about nearly everything but also no one cares until now. He honestly thinks fraud is a normal part of business. It would be absolutely insane for his lawyers to let him speak
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Jan 10, 2024 19:21
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TRUMP did everything right and they refused to let me speak! Gag order! Political witch hunt!
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Jan 10, 2024 19:22
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B-Rock452 posted:Trump literally doesn't understand what he did wrong when it comes to this trial, all he knows is that he has spent decades lying about nearly everything but also no one cares until now. He honestly thinks fraud is a normal part of business. It would be absolutely insane for his lawyers to let him speak Oh absolutely. But it'd be funnier than hell.
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Jan 10, 2024 19:22
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Infinitum posted:One job lawyers have is to protect their client from themselves I'm aware of this. My read on the situation is that Trump wanted to do closing arguments, the judge said "ok but stick to talking about this case," his lawyers objected to that, and the judge said "forget it." I could be misinterpreting.
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Jan 10, 2024 19:22
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mystes posted:Also I don't know how this poo poo works but imagine that closing arguments have got to be less important with a judge whose job it is to keep track of all the arguments anyway than a jury that's going to go with the last persuasive argument they heard and forget everything else I’d imagine it would be time to get in front of the judge and ask for forgiveness and leniency in the case of monetary damages, etc. Trump, however, is incapable of admitting he’s wrong so in the worst case he’d just rant about the election, cheating or whatever and in the best case (for us) he’d attack Engoron directly and call him a leftist shill to his face, resulting in an even larger fine. In the case of your client being a narcissistic moron with a middle-school education and a god complex fed by idiot cultists, it’s probably for the best for them.
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Jan 10, 2024 19:23
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funeral home DJ posted:In the case of your client being a narcissistic moron with a middle-school education and a god complex fed by idiot cultists, it’s probably for the best for them. Yeah but not for us, which is what I care about
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Jan 10, 2024 19:28
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Escape From Noise posted:So hot right now! In the GOP/Right-Wing world, women are not allowed to be old or look old. Trump likes his women young and therefore all MAGA/Right-wing women should look as if they are just a divorce or two away from being Trump’s next wife.
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Jan 10, 2024 19:29
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A closing argument is a summing of your presentation of the case and while there's definitely variance and leeway depending on the type of case, the venue, and the particular judge, there's simply no loving way Trump can stick to a script that's germane and short enough to not make everyone there wish for death. He'd absolutely try to reargue the entire case, go off on random tangents, and take multiple days. Every possible faux pas with this kind of thing.
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Jan 10, 2024 19:30
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https://twitter.com/KlasfeldReports/status/1745149687168958932
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Jan 10, 2024 19:31
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Escape From Noise posted:For someone who claims to be so vehemently opposed to gender affirming surgery she sure seems to get a lot. Isn't surgery that makes you look like an androgynous cyborg the opposite of gender-affirming?
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Jan 10, 2024 19:31
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Ringo Star Get posted:In the GOP/Right-Wing world, women are not allowed to be old or look old. Trump likes his women young and therefore all MAGA/Right-wing women should look as if they are just a divorce or two away from being Trump’s next wife. no, Laura Loomer got all that surgery because she's obsessed with not looking Jewish so she can pick up on Nazis
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Jan 10, 2024 19:32
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Loomer looked a lot better before she started getting work done to try and morph into whatever she thought the ideal was. Some people get plastic surgery and do look better afterwards, but I'm guessing they have some combination of better doctors and better taste.
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Jan 10, 2024 19:33
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Neito posted:I think it's interesting, to use this as a jumping-off point, that this has started to spread to other conspiracies. Prior to this, especially in the 90s with the Militia stuff and even in the 2000s with Loose Change, conspiracies were about action, in some form: those in power cannot be trusted, and it's up to Us, those in the know, the awakened, to protect the sheeple and fight against the Conspirators. I think it may just be laziness. Americans have always had a lazy streak a mile wide, it's the get-rich-quick mentality that we've had since the first colonists rode the unclaimed-land-in-the-new-world, buy-yourself-a-slave, free-land-in-oklahoma, gold-in-california waves that have come in succession decade after decade after decade. This country was founded on the idea that the Good Life is out there somewhere, free for the taking, if you only know where to look. Framed differently, it's the idea that the Good Life is only being withheld from you because you're not privy to whatever secret information is letting the Joneses next door get it. So Americans love to look for the One Weird Trick that has been eluding them ever since they first got bamboozled into homesteading in the land of milk and honey by a floridly-printed handbill in Kansas City and ended up eating their loving family on a frozen lake in the Sierras. Today what that looks like is playing the stock market. It's hawking NFTs. It's running an Etsy shop. It's Alcor, that company that will freeze your brain in liquid nitrogen until someday we invent a way to revive you. All you have to do is put in a modest sum of cash into this interest-bearing account *coughthatwecontrolcough* and don't worry, in ten thousand years it will have ballooned into untold billions and you will awaken into a life of unimaginable riches. It's easy! Just sign here. Political action used to mean going out in the streets and protesting, fighting, resisting, dying. In the age of social media it's memeing. Facebook grandpas and grandmas think they've uncovered the arcane secrets of the Internet that we all figured out at age 17, and while most of us have outgrown the sense of novelty and the idea of endless possibilities inherent in a connected, always-on, instantaneous world and have become inured to the pernicious tendencies of those very same technological wonders, the olds and the dullards are still enraptured by it. They still think they can change the world by posting how they're thinking about thos Beans;. So they find their weird little online cliques. They wend their way to 5.9chan and that subreddit from the hashtag on someone's pickup truck, and they trick themselves into thinking they've got their e-ticket because all their cool online friends think so too. They have their injokes, their running bits, their exclusionary language, their made-up slurs for outsiders. And most of all they think that by typing in the little text box they're fighting a war. They elected Trump because he promised to make them rich. Well, not in so many words, but they KNEW he would. He's Donald Trump! How can he NOT make everyone rich? He obviously knows how! And if we support him, if we type enough words into the text box, if we post enough AI memes of him, if we send $45 to his campaign (Jim? wasn't that a one-time donation? Why did they charge us again this month?) surely he'll recognize me as one of his greatest supporters! I'll have it made in the shade! The Joneses, psshh, what idiots. They have no idea. Look at them over there, in their backyard laughing, grilling, kids jumping on the trampoline. I hate them so much True that prior millenial cults required some commitment to action. You'd better have been prepared to die when the Hale-Bopp comet came by, or when the Rev passed around the cups of Flavor-Aid. You knew that going in. But today all that is irrelevant. All you have to do is  and TRUST THE PLAN  But I don't think it's anything particularly new in the DNA of the country. Just the synthesis of our twin tendencies to look for the quick fix, and to believe comforting, flattering, unsourced anecdotes over inconvenient data.
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Jan 10, 2024 19:33
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lol the real issue is he threatened to drag Trump’s rear end out of court if he didn’t comply
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Jan 10, 2024 19:34
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John Wick of Dogs posted:Loomer looked a lot better before she started getting work done to try and morph into whatever she thought the ideal was. There's a pretty big margin between "I want my features slightly changed" and "I want an entirely different looking face" One will probably get you good results, the other...
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Jan 10, 2024 19:34
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Other than the cost of everyone's time and patience, is there any cost associated with letting Trump bloviate for as long as he wants in lieu of a closing statement?
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Jan 10, 2024 19:37
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Failed Imagineer posted:Isn't surgery that makes you look like an androgynous cyborg the opposite of gender-affirming? Her gender might be bog witch.
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Jan 10, 2024 19:38
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https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1745136868482822594?s=20 I really want this (self-evident truth) to become a bigger part of the discourse honestly. Hey journos! Start acting like the GOP is a religious cult because frankly, they are.
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Jan 10, 2024 19:38
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Serious_Cyclone posted:Other than the cost of everyone's time and patience, is there any cost associated with letting Trump bloviate for as long as he wants in lieu of a closing statement? The judge is sick of his bullshit and doesn’t have to put up with it anymore.
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Jan 10, 2024 19:38
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:lol the real issue is he threatened to drag Trump’s rear end out of court if he didn’t comply Trump: I completely lack the ability of self-control to conduct myself in accordance with basic courtroom decorum Also Trump: I should possess the highest state secrets and access to nuclear weapons.
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Jan 10, 2024 19:39
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Serious_Cyclone posted:Other than the cost of everyone's time and patience, is there any cost associated with letting Trump bloviate for as long as he wants in lieu of a closing statement? I'm going to guess that the less Engoron pushes back on those arguments, the more they get to argue on appeal that they were unjustly ignored. If Engoron snips that poo poo in the bud, then they have to argue against said snipping instead of just handwaving at not taking things into consideration.
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Jan 10, 2024 19:40
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A GIANT PARSNIP posted:The judge is sick of his bullshit and doesn’t have to put up with it anymore. Right, I think that fits into the "cost of everyone's time and patience" part. I'm just curious if it actually does any material harm to the case if he's allowed to marathon burp into a microphone instead of talk about the case
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Jan 10, 2024 19:40
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Aramis posted:I'm going to guess that the less Engoron pushes back on those arguments, the more they get to argue on appeal that they were unjustly ignored. If Engoron snips that poo poo in the bud, then they have to argue against said snipping instead of just handwaving at not taking things into consideration. This seems counterintuitive, but granted I'm not a lawyer. It seems like the more Engoron pushes back on those arguments, the more they get to argue on appeal that they were unjustly ignored.
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Jan 10, 2024 19:42
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Prettz posted:From a while back, but who is "we"? Just because you were really naive in the early 2000s doesn't mean many a lot of other people saw the show that way. I do not mean literally we, me and the poster. I mean we, the generation of people who blame The Daily Show for not doing enough or in general blame it for bearing some sort of responsibility for not pushing back enough against the GOP. While I myself never held this view, and you may not have either, it was a fairly popular reaction in 2016 to blame The Daily Show for having a part in Trump.
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Jan 10, 2024 19:43
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Three Olives posted:Trump: I completely lack the ability of self-control to conduct myself in accordance with basic courtroom decorum Remember when people took pictures with the guy carrying the nuclear football as Trump talked with Abe about confidential national security information about a North Korean missile test in the public dining room at Mar-a-Lago. And people posted pics of it on social media? Lol.
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Jan 10, 2024 19:45
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Trump, like many sociopathic idiots in legal trouble believes that he can get an unfavorable outcome thrown out by showing that the judge was biased against him as the result of his outrageous behavior that the judge has admonished. This is not a thing but many people have tried and will continue to try it.
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Jan 10, 2024 19:46
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StrangersInTheNight posted:I do not mean literally we, me and the poster. I mean we, the generation of people who blame The Daily Show for not doing enough or in general blame it for bearing some sort of responsibility for not pushing back enough against the GOP. While I myself never held this view, and you may not have either, it was a fairly popular reaction in 2016 to blame The Daily Show for having a part in Trump. the rally to restore sanity was cringe, fail, and l, and because of it jon stewart deserves any hate he gets
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Jan 10, 2024 19:46
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BigglesSWE posted:https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1745136868482822594?s=20 LMAO
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Jan 10, 2024 19:46
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Hunter is actually so cool, it drives the GOP crazy. 2024 is the year of the Hunter
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Jan 10, 2024 19:50
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The Justice system does not have enough resources to process the all of the self incriminating statements. Also, let's be real: he's gonna rant and rave about the most random poo poo, plead innocence, whine about unfair it is. He might even make veiled threats or other inciteful comments his followers might want to act on. The judge doesn't have to put up with that poo poo. And you know what? De-Platforming works. Escape From Noise posted:For someone who claims to be so vehemently opposed to gender affirming surgery she sure seems to get a lot How long does it take Lara Loomwer to change a light by bulb? Am hour>? Their ??? There Gender? 🤣🤣🤣
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Jan 10, 2024 19:54
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Wii Spawn Camper posted:Hunter is actually so cool, it drives the GOP crazy. 2024 is the year of the Hunter YUUGE hog, folks! WAY too big!
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StrangersInTheNight posted:I do not mean literally we, me and the poster. I mean we, the generation of people who blame The Daily Show for not doing enough or in general blame it for bearing some sort of responsibility for not pushing back enough against the GOP. While I myself never held this view, and you may not have either, it was a fairly popular reaction in 2016 to blame The Daily Show for having a part in Trump. I can't think of many leftist takes stupider than "The Daily Show was the problem"
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