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Jon Pod Van Damm posted:Will people care. How many people in the U.S. are aware that there are still U.S. troops in Syria and Iraq. Even Syria is like "US troops have boots on the ground in Syria?" to me because it's always felt like an afterthought and downplayed that I still have to remember everytime before I get to "still"
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FuzzySlippers posted:it is possible America already lost WW3 when it blew it’s load in weapons and soft power in Ukraine without success, failed to restrain Israel, and then failed to recognize the need to start fixing anything broken about America to change course. If there isn’t any political will to fix the broken arms industry how is it going to even present a credible defense of Taiwan much less succeed? It's best that the USA doesn't realise this though. At least not until more of the rot (and rust) has done its work.
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FuzzySlippers posted:it is possible America already lost WW3 when it blew it’s load in weapons and soft power in Ukraine without success, failed to restrain Israel, and then failed to recognize the need to start fixing anything broken about America to change course. If there isn’t any political will to fix the broken arms industry how is it going to even present a credible defense of Taiwan much less succeed? Man the Nazis turning to wonder weapons in a desperate ploy to prevent their inevitable defeat sure we're something. Not like America would ever do that though
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Maybe if we build a single 500 trillion dollar superjet armed with really expensive missiles and chemical lasers (those are futuristic right?) that will be enough to intimidate everyone into sticking with USD for international settlements, thus allowing the flow of treasure to the imperial capital to continue unimpeded.
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President Xi, my man, my pal, just want to have a feel for the situation, a vibe check if you will... How the People's Liberation Army Navy - a drat fine institution of revolutionary spirit if you ask me - is doing nowadays? Like, we are just letting the mind wander here for a bit, but say something happened in South Korea, you know, or maybe further south... What if you could do something really loving funny as an answer?
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Its more likely the US lost the hegemony. If there was war on domestic territory it would be a totally different situation, but that probably will never happen. The old empire will stew in its corner of the world. As some person joked recently the soft landing is that we become like the UK. Hence the joke about the Falklands. They 'won' that war, but it was clear from how it went down that its power had waned so much it was no longer a serious global player.
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BULBASAUR posted:Its more likely the US lost the hegemony. If there was war on domestic territory it would be a totally different situation, but that probably will never happen. The empire will stew in its corner of the world. As some person joked recently the soft landing is that we become like the UK. Decoupling from China does have some Brexit vibes
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Kassad posted:Decoupling from China does have some Brexit vibes (bangs fist on table) There will be no decoupling from the iphone factories! A domestic microchip of any variety in the USA does not make a consumer good. There are a few more steps involved. And the microchips themselves kind of still need stuff from China. I joke about iphones of course but Raytheon weren't keen on it either.
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DancingShade posted:(bangs fist on table) There will be no decoupling from the iphone factories!  so, I know, I know, I know, but hear me out, you guys won't believe this poo poo. So I talked with Carter and well, what do you know, the Americans went for it...  
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dead gay comedy forums posted:
deng ftw
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china ftw
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communism ftw
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Actual legitimate industrial base FTW.
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I was just looking for ANY excuse to use that photo of Deng smoking because c'mon
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DancingShade posted:It's best that the USA doesn't realise this though. At least not until more of the rot (and rust) has done its work. don't get me wrong, this whole rotten structure collapsing is unambiguously good for the world as a whole.
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this thread is fun because all CSPAM threads are eventually relevant here
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dead gay comedy forums posted:I was just looking for ANY excuse to use that photo of Deng smoking because c'mon love the grandma throne
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deng laughing cause he know
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Vox Nihili posted:how much of Yemen do the Houthi need to control before they start getting referred to as something other than "tribal militia" by the media 200%?
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i see the us went for the old middle eastern boondoggle gambit, a real dying empire classic
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But Biden knows, it's a truth as old as time that you cannot change horses midstream his victory is assured
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Cerebral Bore posted:i see the us went for the old middle eastern boondoggle gambit, a real dying empire classic The great thing is also the USN has most of its assets either coming from, going to, or in the Middle East and has a single carrier group and some destroyers to take on China if push came to shove. Speaking of which the first Constellation frigate got delayed again, and it is going to be 2027 at the earliest before it can even be launched and perhaps 2029-2030 before it is fully operational. China has 4 frigates currently in the process of launching or fitting out. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 14:31 on Jan 12, 2024 |
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Trabisnikof posted:That’s a good example of why the USA has to provide the skeleton for any ground operations even if they’re going to attempt to flesh it out with allied or private forces. yeah, nato-aligned mercenaries don't really have heavy equipment like tanks, armed aircraft, etc because those cost too much money for the revenue they generate compared to some steroid guy with brain damage who'll kill himself after a few years. they have apcs, ifvs, drones, maybe some light tanks, and they're supposed to be used as support. they're for filling in lines, holding bases, and escorting vips basically. wagner had some of that stuff but they're basically a state-sponsored enterprise like some kinda murderous usps
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Hatebag posted:yeah, nato-aligned mercenaries don't really have heavy equipment like tanks, armed aircraft, etc because those cost too much money for the revenue they generate compared to some steroid guy with brain damage who'll kill himself after a few years. they have apcs, ifvs, drones, maybe some light tanks, and they're supposed to be used as support. they're for filling in lines, holding bases, and escorting vips basically. Wagner has a bunch of heavy equipment including artillery and tanks, they may even had their own air arm at one point. They were created to give the Russian government some deniability but were clearly state funded, it is just obviously something weird went on between them and the Kremlin.
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yeah sorry that wasn't clear I meant wagner had heavy equipment like tanks, artillery, armed aircraft, etc
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frozenphil posted:this thread is fun because all CSPAM threads are eventually relevant here "Doomsday Economics!" "Biosphere Collapse!" "TRMPT!" "gently caress Joe Biden!" "Marxism!" "By your shitposts combined, I am Captain WW3!"
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It's gonna suck when another country watches the movie the Obama's produced and just turns the lights off over here.
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Ardennes posted:Speaking of which the first Constellation frigate got delayed again, okay this dude writes very long threads and he's also the guy who said that bad Chinese tires in Mar 2022 meant that Russia was going to lose in Ukraine, but ... code:code:... which means that even if these ships were up-and-running and deployed in any significant amount, not only would they be unsuited for taking part in operations against Yemen, they'd be even worse off if facing against an enemy better equipped than the Yemenis
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gradenko_2000 posted:okay this dude writes very long threads and he's also the guy who said that bad Chinese tires in Mar 2022 meant that Russia was going to lose in Ukraine, but ... The Constellation has got a 32 cell VLS, which admittedly, probably isn't going to be fully outfitted with anti-air missiles. Basically, it is going to run out of missiles (everything being equal) in about a third of the time as Arleigh Burke and therefore is just going to be a lot more vulnerable to swarm attacks. The LCS is a complete sitting duck and would have to be protected by other ships. Also, the issue for Russian equipment wasn't the tires, but they were stuck in several feet of mud at the time. Even great tires are only going to help so much. Ardennes has issued a correction as of 16:13 on Jan 12, 2024 |
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While I appreciate that our money is being spent on ships that are all useless instead of ones that are useful in war, I do wish it were spent on not the military instead.
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Ardennes posted:Also, the issue for Russian equipment wasn't the tires, but they were stuck in several feet of mud at the time. Even great tires are only going to help so much. look man I played snowrunner. The fact that Putin immediately nationalize KAMAZ for a war effort shows how much a neoliberal he is
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Nation interest also put out an article saying China can suck up Taiwan's missile in a short time during a conflict What Taiwan Can Learn from the Houthis I think the article is trying to say US naval ships can be overwhelmed but its using Taiwanese naval to frame this angle. (Also, the Osprey makes an comedy name drop) stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 16:39 on Jan 12, 2024 |
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bankrupt sore loser america is gonna build the saddam satellite cannon and use it like a cheap intercontinental mortar to keep bombing countries even after yemen sinks its navy and the western economy collapses
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Real hurthling! posted:bankrupt sore loser america is gonna build the saddam satellite cannon Gerald Bull rides again!
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gradenko_2000 posted:okay this dude writes very long threads and he's also the guy who said that bad Chinese tires in Mar 2022 meant that Russia was going to lose in Ukraine, but ... An LCS burned down in San Diego because they decided to make a highly flammable warship. Not sure they have any purpose beyond defense company enrichment.
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what kind of defense can you even have against a drone swarm besides your own drown swarm future ships just gonna be covered in drone ports to maintain their swarms at sea, like a momma spider covered in lil crawlers
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BULBASAUR posted:what kind of defense can you even have against a drone swarm besides your own drown swarm aa guns. drones are mostly slow. not gonna work in a few years when the drones are launching hypersonic glide bombs from 100s of miles away, though
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BULBASAUR posted:what kind of defense can you even have against a drone swarm besides your own drown swarm This is actually not a complex problem. You just need a larger number of good enough, smaller, ships rather than incredibly expensive ships that try to do everything. You disperse forces but mass fires.
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cheap drones cant carry the super big boy bombs so just cope cage the boats
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