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The thing about C&H is that reading it as a daily comic strip was delightful, but I have the complete collection, and if you binge read it, Calvin comes across more as an annoying little poo poo with ADHD. But as people have said, the artwork was great, and Watterson gets a ton of respect from me for ending the strip on his own terms and not letting it turn into a zombie, and the final strip was the perfect sendoff.
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Cosmik Debris posted:CCR's story is wild, it's too long to go into but basically they were all suing each other constantly. My favorite was when the "new" CCR tried suing Fogerty over Old Man Down the Road sounding too similar to Run Through the Jungle & Fogerty won because he wrote both, essentially with the judge saying "you can't plagiarize yourself" 
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Aramis posted:Prince brought us Vanity, which brought us The Last Dragon. And for that alone, I tip my hat at the man. Hell yeah! And that song kicked rear end. I could see a hard rock version of it being interesting. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MersKWMbLaY
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Jan 12, 2024 18:37
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IBroughttheFunk posted:Oooohh wow, thank you for this perspective. You just made me realize a major reason as to why I loved the strip so much as a severely socially anxious kid. Same, that poo poo hit me hard (except it was more existential despair than anxiety).
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BOOTY-ADE posted:My favorite was when the "new" CCR tried suing Fogerty over Old Man Down the Road sounding too similar to Run Through the Jungle & Fogerty won because he wrote both, essentially with the judge saying "you can't plagiarize yourself" so saul zanz owned the copyright to all of all of fogery's songs. fogerty baited zanz in 1985 with his album Centerfield, which had mr. greed and zanz kant danz both in reference to him. Zanz took the bait and sued him for defamation over Zanz Kant Danz, and also sued him for infringing on Run Through the Jungle as you stated, which Zanz owned the copyright to. Fogerty won because he got up on the stand and played guitar for the jury, demonstrating that its his personal style of playing. the jury of course agreed with him and zanz lost. At one point during the trial, Zanz was on the stand being cross-examined by Fogerty's council. They asked him, do you have a vendetta against fogerty, and zanz said "yes but he started it" referring to fogerty. Fogerty actually settled the defamation suit over Zanz Kant Danz. During the time CCR was active, their label, Fantasy Records, didn't have any other bands signed to it. It was basically just printing CCR's records and promoting them, and taking the vast majority of their money. Pretty wild poo poo. fogerty eventually paid Zanz an absurd amount of money and bought back the rights to all of CCR's songs. When Zanz died a few years ago, Fogerty posted a link to the video for Zanz Kant Danz on twitter. pretty funny imo Cosmik Debris fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Jan 12, 2024 |
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Jan 12, 2024 19:10
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Presto posted:The thing about C&H is that reading it as a daily comic strip was delightful, but I have the complete collection, and if you binge read it, Calvin comes across more as an annoying little poo poo with ADHD. I have the complete collection as well, but I don't want to read it because I have very fond memories that I don't want to ruin. I tried watching my favorite shows when I was twelve, but decades later, and they, uh, aren't as good as I remember, to put it mildly. I'm afraid the same thing will happen if I read Calvin and Hobbes as an adult.
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Jan 12, 2024 19:45
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tango alpha delta posted:I have the complete collection as well, but I don't want to read it because I have very fond memories that I don't want to ruin. I tried watching my favorite shows when I was twelve, but decades later, and they, uh, aren't as good as I remember, to put it mildly. I'm afraid the same thing will happen if I read Calvin and Hobbes as an adult. Calvin and Hobbes holds up incredibly well and rereading it as a 30-something really made me appreciate the strip's adult characters a lot more. Just as important, it's still gorgeous to look at and knowing what I now know about art makes me appreciate Watterson even more. Dude was an absolute master with line weight, composition, directionality, value (those Tracer Bullet strips were loving insane), silhouette, you name it. He was peerless. I didn't understand any of that as a kid, I just knew that C&H was exciting to look at and most other comic strips weren't. Crack that poo poo open, it'll be worth it.
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Jan 12, 2024 20:40
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I really liked the strips where he would mimic the style of "Rex Morgan MD" 
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Jan 12, 2024 21:11
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Cosmik Debris posted:so saul zanz owned the copyright to all of all of fogery's songs. fogerty baited zanz in 1985 with his album Centerfield, which had mr. greed and zanz kant danz both in reference to him. Zanz took the bait and sued him for defamation over Zanz Kant Danz, and also sued him for infringing on Run Through the Jungle as you stated, which Zanz owned the copyright to. I loving live for this petty insider tea.
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Extra Large Marge posted:I really liked the strips where he would mimic the style of "Rex Morgan MD"
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Extra Large Marge posted:I really liked the strips where he would mimic the style of "Rex Morgan MD" oh man you left out the best one 
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I love that the conceit is that, back in the day when the comics were in the paper, you'd start reading that comic, not realizing it's calvin and hobbes, and it just gets weirder and weirder until the last panel and you're like, oh poo poo, it was all pretend they would almost be better without the final panels. but then you wouldn't get it at all if you're not a regular reader.
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Jan 12, 2024 22:55
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Okay, I really enjoyed those.
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It helps that when Watterson wrote about fights with his syndicate where he refused to license the comic to protect artistic integrity, his actions in the decades since show it wasn’t just posturing. So we aren’t seeing Calvin Kart Racing clogging up steam discount sales or Chris Pratt announced as Calvin’s dad. Also glad while not a total recluse he isn’t a cringe #resistance Twitter guy and I have no idea if his politics took any radical turns post 9/11.
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Jan 13, 2024 00:14
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When does Calvin and Hobbes become public domain so we can get a bad horror flick out of it
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credburn posted:When does Calvin and Hobbes become public domain so we can get a bad horror flick out of it It's like 70 years after Bill Watterson dies or something, so thankfully never in our lifetimes 
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Cosmik Debris posted:Akroyd is a weird dude for sure but he strikes me as harmless weird. Blues Brothers would not have worked at all without either Akyroyd or Belushi, as evidenced by the awful BB2000. They play off each other really well. And IIRC the genesis for the blues brothers was Belushi doing a Joe Cocker sendup and it bein wild. Belushi always wanted to be a singer and him and akroyd were writing partners, so they sat down and basically came up with a premise for how they could make that happen. I've heard CCR on the radio growing up but never checked them out until I watched this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQcnxTWGhwM I actually really enjoyed going through their whole discography, lot of good stuff there.
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CCR is great and I recently bought a drum set and for years and years I've said I was going to learn I Heard it Through the Grape Vine since it's so basic but supremely solid. I bought a little bluetooth interface for a big amplifier I have and play that song through that while jamming out (poorly, I have zero formal teaching). Fortunate Son is a good song but of course it's been overplayed to a ridiculous amount. It suffers from the same issue as Born in the USA and other songs in that it's a rip against the USA but chuds think it's a patriotic song. John Fogerty was actually drafted and served in the army reserves for a bit. The full song is actually around 11 minutes but here's the drumming that I really want to get down. Much shorter video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCCfc2vAuDU
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Jan 13, 2024 02:23
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I wish a philosophy goon would drop in and talk about John Calvin and Thomas Hobbes. Watterson was intentional in creating their personalities around the philosophers but I really don't know much other than Calvin's fixation on predestination and Santa Claus as a standin for God and Hobbes's "dim view of humanity," in his own words.
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Pennywise the Frown posted:CCR is great and I recently bought a drum set and for years and years I've said I was going to learn I Heard it Through the Grape Vine since it's so basic but supremely solid. not that it's bad or anything but he's imitating the classic motown drum sound from the original, which is better imo. and even though marvin gaye didn't play drums much by this point, he started out as a drummer. despite the fact that he was a piano player, berry gordy had a number of better piano players and really needed another drummer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWG3npfEoHo
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I disagree. I feel more of a groove to the 11 minute CCR song. But music is subjective. 
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Cosmik Debris posted:not that it's bad or anything but he's imitating the classic motown drum sound from the original, which is better imo. and even though marvin gaye didn't play drums much by this point, he started out as a drummer. despite the fact that he was a piano player, berry gordy had a number of better piano players and really needed another drummer. ??? why did Marvin Gaye cover a California Raisins song? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8V5YOeCFxM anywho, fun fact, that's not a CCR song, not even a Marvin Gaye song!!! It's a Norman Whitfield/Barrett Strong joint that was first recorded by Gladys Knight and the Pips. There were a couple of other artists who took a stab at it before Marvin Gaye, notably The Miracles, but Marvin Gaye was finally able to help the track break the charts Soul music ruleshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJ633YXW-TM
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it's not every day that somebody out music-trivia's me, so my hats off you to you m'goon sir. I had assumed it was one of his because he was a prolific songwriter himself and wrote a lot of his own hits and several hits for others as well. Cosmik Debris fucked around with this message at 04:05 on Jan 13, 2024 |
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bagmonkey posted:??? why did Marvin Gaye cover a California Raisins song? I was trying to find the version I really really really I enjoy and yeah, so many cool versions of this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH10RgBTCAs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRiUUuIYAqc
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that's a big reason I put songwriters on a higher pedestal than performers. one song can spawn so many amazing performances. lovely songs cant do that (usually). truly great performers are rare. truly great songwriters are even rare...er.
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Cosmik Debris posted:it's not every day that somebody out music-trivia's me, so my hats off you to you m'goon sir. I'm a massive soul music fan, one of my closest buddies is a collector here in metro Detroit who's turned me on to all sorts of amazing stuff and helped me learn about all of the history. Motown-era soul music is so fascinating because these artists would just trade songs around until someone got a hit off of it. It's a semi regular occurrence that I'll be at a local soul/funk night and hear a track that I know, but by a completely different artist, and that kinda starts the process of figuring out wtf
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there's one piece of media I hate more than anything in the loving world, and I know lots of other people don't like it, but hearing this at certain times will legit send me into a just grumpy mood https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQ-RzocalTk this dumb piece of poo poo's dumb piece of poo poo christmas song that sucks my whole rear end. I hate this song more than any other song
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Old news, but it's a total ripoff too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXdQB-mR4tg
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bagmonkey posted:there's one piece of media I hate more than anything in the loving world, and I know lots of other people don't like it, but hearing this at certain times will legit send me into a just grumpy mood I wouldn't even consider it the worst Beatles Christmas song.
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rodbeard posted:I wouldn't even consider it the worst Beatles Christmas song. simply having a wonderful christmas (time) is a loving wonderful song because I don't believe any song has been more phoned in than that song, and I absolutely appreciate that level of hustle
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whereas i genuinely believe that john lennon thought he could write lovely pop songs enough to make war end
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I remember some time around 2014 on Goontube I saw a dailymotion that had Simply Having a Wonderful Christmas (time) set to footage of one of those latex dudes playing in a septic tank, at Christmastime, and it was weirdly perfect. That song that perfectly captures the cold of some Christmases which is absent from literally every other Christmas song I know.
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While we’re on John Lennon, Imagine is one of the dumbest songs ever written. What a pile of garbage.
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Presto posted:The thing about C&H is that reading it as a daily comic strip was delightful, but I have the complete collection, and if you binge read it, Calvin comes across more as an annoying little poo poo with ADHD. He is just like me fr fr redshirt posted:I watched the new Flash movie (over a couple of days) because of the fun cameos, but my gosh, I couldn't have cared less for the dumb story. A comic book movie that used alternate realities. The stakes could not be any lower. A lot of people poo poo on Marvel movies and somewhat rightfully so, but they do at least have a habit of picking decent screenwriters/directors (and part of them being able to do that is because they're known for very little interference in the filmmaking process — probably why Waititi made Thor 3 rather than Akira), and for a short period that percolated down to some reasonably decent stuff being made. DC comics has always had this kind of "wow, we're doing the same poo poo as Marvel but it's Edgy and Dark woahhhh" vibe that I just can't shake, but what I find particularly impressive is that their movies carry this as well. Every single one of their movies looks from the outside like the edgiest 13yro bullshit possible, except on top of this the filmmakers are in that weird liminal space where they're good at what they do not because they make good films (e.g. hunt for the wilderpeople), but because they make pulpy films (e.g. the fast and furious movies) Like how Danielle Steele was good at being an incredibly famous author but in terms of literary quality she's middling at best.
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I lasted around ten minutes trying to watch the Mean Girls movie. It's not that it's not a good movie but that it was a very unpleasant reminder of middle school that I couldn't stand to relive.
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Was I the only weirdo kid that collected Foxtrot instead of C&H?
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I stopped watching always sunny somewhere in season 10, because it had gotten so bad. Every time I see a clip from a season after that, it is absolutely terrible. It's like the Simpsons, and just like the Simpsons, dumb guys still eat that poo poo up and can't even tell the difference
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Yeah, it turned into a bad fanfic of the show as it used to be.
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is pepsi ok posted:Was I the only weirdo kid that collected Foxtrot instead of C&H? Nah, foxtrot is great. I didn't have all of them, or even really a lot, but the 10 or so books I had got a lot of rereading.
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