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People had parties when Blair won? Edit: 141 - the number of times Tony Blair personally strangled a homeless person.
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Jan 16, 2024 09:25
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stop reading the guardian 
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Jan 16, 2024 09:25
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A win for politicians I don’t hate has literally never once happened
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Jan 16, 2024 09:36
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TACD posted:A win for politicians I don’t hate has literally never once happened What about when corbyn won £10 on that scratchcard
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Jan 16, 2024 09:39
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reckon he'd be a health lottery man if anything
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Jan 16, 2024 09:43
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syndicate with his friends from the allotments sort of thing
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Jan 16, 2024 09:45
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Mesopotamia posted:It’s funny this, because over here in the continent it’s a common refrain that we (NL/DE) are about a decade behind the UK. It all depends on what you mean by behind I guess.
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Jan 16, 2024 09:47
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Life under a Starmer government will be one big party anyways
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Jan 16, 2024 10:05
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It's 1997 all over again. Let's have a Labour Partay struggle to get a massive champagne bottle open on live TV while Dimbleby makes quips about "champagne socialism". Then we'll have a D: ream concert, and in the morning the press go wild when Starmer's wife opens the door to number 10 in a dressing gown.
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Jan 16, 2024 10:10
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A wet egg in every palm.
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Jan 16, 2024 10:10
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i0uouyO-whY&t=117s
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Jan 16, 2024 10:14
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keep punching joe posted:People had parties when Blair won? Yes. I remember almost everyone in our office cheering except the very few who voted tory. (Yes I know cheering isn't exactly a party, but for sure there were people who did "party").
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Jan 16, 2024 10:15
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Will the papers go in hard against Starmer, I thought it was his (Labour's) turn this year?
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Jan 16, 2024 10:25
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Parking like a loving rear end in a top hat at 43 seconds, christ
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Jan 16, 2024 10:35
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keep punching joe posted:People had parties when Blair won? People stayed up extra late drinking beer to watch cunts like Portillo lose their seats. There was general happiness and relief the next morning but it didn’t stretch to people clapping and singing in the streets.
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Jan 16, 2024 10:49
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I’m not going to be partying but I will certainly stay up to lol at all those red wall gammons and cabinet drones losing their seats and making sad faces
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Jan 16, 2024 10:50
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I was a student at the time, plenty of people cheering the Tories losing without cheering New Labour winning, and that was when Tony was mostly a cheesy grin with a manifesto of 'We're not them'. Keith doesn't even have that in his manifesto any more.
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Jan 16, 2024 11:21
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Yeah, honestly, Keir is worse than Blair from left policy perspective. But maybe some people in the Labour cabinet will at least not be completely poo poo.
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Jan 16, 2024 11:35
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domhal posted:Don't worry about all that, just enjoy the party. It's a Labour victory today, and Keir is PM! That means only one thing...BRING IT IN, GUYS!!!! *Billy Bragg, the Spice Girls, Tony Blair, Richard Curtis and all the Britpop acts come in with everything for a HUGE party*
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Jan 16, 2024 11:38
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I think also we weren't all so used to politicians simply lying. We'd had 18 years of Tory government which did most of what it said it would and appeared to try to do the rest. All that changed with Blair's govt, which was generally trying not to do what it had promised to do. I expect people old enough to remember Callaghan were less naive.
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Jan 16, 2024 11:39
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Private Speech posted:Yeah, honestly, Keir is worse than Blair from left policy perspective. But maybe some people in the Labour cabinet will at least not be completely poo poo. The people in Keith's cabinet will be selected on the sole basis of being Tory wannabes who didn't go to the right school or have the right mates.
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Jan 16, 2024 11:42
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WhatEvil posted:If Starmer does get in, on the back of the Tory vote collapsing, rather than a surge in Labour support, he'll probably have fewer votes than Corbz in '17. We know that the more people see of Starmer, the less they like him: "Eww, does he really sound like that?!" I honestly think they'll try to keep him as low profile as possible in the campaign: no debates and lots of non-specific advertising about the need for 'change'.
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Jan 16, 2024 12:00
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What would make you vote Labour in the upcoming election? And secondly, who do you plan on voting for? Ukmt early polling suggests landslide victory for pm cock&balls
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Jan 16, 2024 12:04
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Blair getting in in 97 ended 18 loving years of Tory rule. That he ended up being a light tory was more discovered after the fact and after he allowed Dubya to insert his entire right arm up his backside to control his mouth.
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Jan 16, 2024 12:11
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If Biden did the same to Starmer it might actually be a positive. Albeit more because Starmer lowered the bar everywhere else and managed to be just as cunty about Gaza as Genocide Joe.
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Jan 16, 2024 12:12
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https://twitter.com/zarahsultana/status/1747014118106673248 ... e: DreddyMatt posted:What would make you vote Labour in the upcoming election?
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Jan 16, 2024 12:21
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fuctifino posted:
Lmao What about q2? Gonna stay at home, deface ballot, or vote for another party?
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Jan 16, 2024 12:26
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fuctifino posted:https://twitter.com/zarahsultana/status/1747014118106673248 What a piece of poo poo. “Some people are giving a free pass to terrorists”. “What, I never specified her did I?  ”
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Jan 16, 2024 12:27
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DreddyMatt posted:What would make you vote Labour in the upcoming election? Implausible as it is, it wouldn't take much. Just promise a 10% pay rise for teachers and nurses, with future rises never below inflation. Just one simple good thing would be enough.
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Jan 16, 2024 12:32
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domhal posted:Just one simple good thing would be enough. I detested Blair because of his Clause IV, but thought, in 1997, that we'd get a PR referendum, if nothing else. Hahahahaha. One simple good promise is not enough, unfortunately.
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Jan 16, 2024 12:39
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CEO of Hamas puts down the telephone, tells everyone he's very sorry but his ol buddy Zarah has asked him politely to stop doing terrorism. Hamas disbands immediately and the IDF never mistreat a single palestinian ever again
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Jan 16, 2024 12:43
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domhal posted:Implausible as it is, it wouldn't take much. Just promise a 10% pay rise for teachers and nurses, with future rises never below inflation. Just one simple good thing would be enough. Yeah, I'm not pricey: give me just one good thing worth voting for and I'll do it. I'm not going to support a party that is currently promising zero of the things that I care about.
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Jan 16, 2024 12:50
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DreddyMatt posted:What about q2? Gonna stay at home, deface ballot, or vote for another party? I'm probably going to deface my ballot. I live in a Tory safe seat, and there will be nobody else worth voting for.
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Jan 16, 2024 12:50
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Tesseraction posted:Blair getting in in 97 ended 18 loving years of Tory rule. That he ended up being a light tory was more discovered after the fact and after he allowed Dubya to insert his entire right arm up his backside to control his mouth. No, it wasn't. People were joking during the campaign that "Tony Blair MP" was an anagram of "I'm Tory Plan B", and like all such jokes it was rooted in truth. People knew, but everyone was caught up in the hype of him not being an actual Tory and the Tories themselves were worn out. I don't think Blair would have won even in 1992.
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Jan 16, 2024 12:52
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Like: - Return to mass council house building to end rampant house price inflation and ensure secure housing for all. - Taxing wealth in the same way as earned income to bring in more taxes and stop the widening gap between those who have capital and those who don't. - Bring in a PR electoral system, so that every vote counts equally in the future. Those are the 3 real biggies for me. For me to vote Labour ever again, they'd need to be offering at least ONE of those three things.
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Jan 16, 2024 12:55
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DreddyMatt posted:What would make you vote Labour in the upcoming election? Make me? Loaded gun pointed at my head or family/friends. Persuade me? Not sure there is anything now unless there is a convincing commitment to genuine change towards a more inclusive and just society - no sign of that from Starmer and as he lies with ease & most of his cronies are in league with private health, education etc - not to be trusted at all. Plan on voting for? Depends who stands but likely Green or Plaid Cymru.* Both tories & labour need a psephologial boot up the proverbial. Just remember folks - don't draw your cock&balls in a square on the ballot paper else that counts as a vote for the owner of the square. *splitting the 'left' vote is made easier by the fact that I am not a fan of Labour's candidate round here. If they were someone who I'm friends with and like, it would be a harder decision. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 12:59 on Jan 16, 2024 |
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Jan 16, 2024 12:57
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Pistol_Pete posted:Yeah, I'm not pricey: give me just one good thing worth voting for and I'll do it. I'm not going to support a party that is currently promising zero of the things that I care about. How could you ever believe that they would deliver on any hypothetical Good Policy? In the time from you putting an X into the Labour box to the time they count the votes, Starmer will have already announced and then scrapped a dozen iron-clad pledges
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Jan 16, 2024 13:01
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Failed Imagineer posted:How could you ever believe that they would deliver on any hypothetical Good Policy? In the time from you putting an X into the Labour box to the time they count the votes, Starmer will have already announced and then scrapped a dozen iron-clad pledges They're a grown up party who have to make difficult decisions, though. Also whatever they promised they'd fund I'm sure they can find a way to do it with AI now and I'm sure it won't be a disaster.
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Jan 16, 2024 13:06
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I'm planning on voting labour because my number one priority is to get the tories out of government I certainly don't agree with everything they stand for, and they're far from perfect but they're the best we've got as far as that priority goes This is that critical thinking a bunch of you seem keen on and it's quite telling what you'll hold your nose to when it comes to other issues
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Jan 16, 2024 13:07
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I guess to put it another way, getting my vote requires 2 things : - at least one significant policy I support - a justifiable belief that they will negotiate in good faith to accomplish that policy. (I guess also I would have to live in the country lol)
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Jan 16, 2024 13:08
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