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Slyphic
Oct 12, 2021

All we do is walk around believing birds!

rotinaj posted:

😬

I am not a fan of living in a world where the primary source for reporting on a court case involving the former president of the United States is posting his articles to this website


This is the best looking news site I've seen in ages. No popups, no autoplaying videos about TRUCK MONTH. I want to live in this world full time.

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Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



rotinaj posted:

Now that I think of it, even if habba had gotten Carroll to produce these emails or texts, what relevance do random threats have to whether donald jonald trungus defamed e. Jean Carroll

They are irrelevant to the defense of Trump, aren’t they?

Yeah, the threats are of limited use in this case even for Carroll. They could plausibly be used to establish some damages, but linking this particular defamation to those threats is a challenge.

To Trump, they mean jack loving poo poo since if Carroll's attorneys didn't introduce them and Trump's attorneys didn't ask for them, then they're not evidence. So Habba is making some absurd jumps and is trying to muddy the waters for a jury that might not understand those things.

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Aug 6, 2013


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rotinaj posted:

I mean, I guess, but I don’t see how Carrol’s reaction to random death threats should negatively impact the basic facts of the case, whether the former President of the loving US defamed her

I am not exasperated with you, just with the dumb loving reality I find myself in

I mean, if you're claiming you get death threats "every day" but then can't or won't produce them, the obvious argument is that you didn't take them seriously OR that you exaggerating and/or just making things up. It matters both for the damages and for Carroll's credibility generally.

But she's so out of her depth that her incompetence hurts her case. Again, they took depos. Habba should know roughly when Carroll started deleting emails based on discovery the plaintiff turned over. If she had stuff prepped, she could produce the evidence, have Carroll read them, and then make the point that Carroll is cherry-picking the worst of the worst and exaggerating the harm Trump caused.

RocketRaygun
Nov 7, 2015




Holy poo poo she sucks. Habba is like, being a total rear end in a top hat. This is some loving deranged poo poo.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

How much could final judgment cost Trump?

Hazo
Dec 30, 2004

SCIENCE




“Hey that looked lawyer-y! I wanna do that too!”

Buce
Dec 23, 2005

ms carroll, how long have you been a member of the organization known as “gmail?”

Aramis
Sep 22, 2009



Assuming this is accurate and not paraphrased, :lol: that the judge didn't even bother asking what the sidebar would be for. Absolutely done with Habba's poo poo.

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug

StrangersInTheNight posted:

'so you ADMIT to deleting the evidence! KANGAROO COURT YOUR HONOR KANGAROO COURT, MISTRIAL'

This has to be Trump telling her to do this juvenile poo poo. It's so loving dumb.

It's all we're going to hear for all the other trials. "So you threw away the pen that you used to sign this search warrant with?" "probably, it was out of ink" "MISTRIAL!"

Trump watches too much bullshit TV shows. jfc

Pot Smoke Phoenix
Aug 15, 2007



Smoke 'em if you gottem!
Dinosaur Gum

Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

How much could final judgment cost Trump?

I think she's asking for $10 million, but the question the jurors have to figure out is, how much damage has Trump's lies actually cost her?

That's including loss of contracts, loss of income from those contracts, not to mention the fact that security around her had to be increased due to death threats.

It's hard to say, but it could be a lot

Hazo
Dec 30, 2004

SCIENCE



Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

How much could final judgment cost Trump?

Anything combining “Trump” and “final judgment” would likely involve a toilet, an aneurysm, and three pounds of undigested Wendy’s hamburger meat

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

Pot Smoke Phoenix posted:

I think she's asking for $10 million, but the question the jurors have to figure out is, how much damage has Trump's lies actually cost her?

That's including loss of contracts, loss of income from those contracts, not to mention the fact that security around her had to be increased due to death threats.

It's hard to say, but it could be a lot

Aren't there also punitive damages? How much money would it cost Trump to make him shut the gently caress up?

Random Stranger
Nov 27, 2009



Mr Ice Cream Glove posted:

How much could final judgment cost Trump?

It's not going to be a crazy amount compared to other Trump trials. Maybe a million or two. Carroll's attorney fees will definitely be part of it.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Buce posted:

ms carroll, how long have you been a member of the organization known as “gmail?”

Is it safe to say you could be found "at" gmail, and that mail could find you there? If so, why has your physical address never made any reference to gmail? Your honor, mistrial

Pot Smoke Phoenix
Aug 15, 2007



Smoke 'em if you gottem!
Dinosaur Gum

kazil posted:

Aren't there also punitive damages? How much money would it cost Trump to make him shut the gently caress up?

Yeah, I think the follow-up too after he went on to slander her some more after the judgement.

Lol!

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
nposter
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Fabulousity posted:

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"Did... Did you do it?" Abstinence Boy pondered while fumbling with his smart phone. Several taps later and his eyes grew huge, "You did! The Internet! It's gone!"

"No more temptation..." Colossal Man said softly, "Is my work finished? Can I rest?"

With the Internet dead the scourge of easily distributed pornography had been dealt with. Finally all those poor hapless victimized innocent men could rest their cranks.

The moment of quiet introspection was suddenly shattered by piercing frantic laughter from a nearby thicket of woods. Colossal Man's eyes darted around searching for the source finally settling on a worn out 1980s Ford panel van with a bubble window on the rear side ensconced in an elaborate but faded airbrushed wolf standing in the forest. A shadowy figure emerged from behind holding something.

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To Be Continued...

coming back to this thread with 1300 unread comments and :lol::lol::lol::lol:

Froghammer
Sep 8, 2012

Khajit has wares
if you have coin
That scene from The Office where they all run around shouting "PARKOUR" only it's Habba shouting mistrial

Small Strange Bird
Sep 22, 2006

Merci, chaton!
I'm imagining Habba yelling "MISTRIAL!" in court with the same cadence as "JERK STORE!"

fondue
Jul 14, 2002

Pope Corky the IX posted:

My Cousin Vinny is actually one of the most accurate trial movies ever made and is regularly referred to in law school. I think Legal Eagle has several videos on it.

Watching one of those videos was how I learned about Legal Eagle.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


rotinaj posted:

Now that I think of it, even if habba had gotten Carroll to produce these emails or texts, what relevance do random threats have to whether donald jonald trungus defamed e. Jean Carroll

They are irrelevant to the defense of Trump, aren’t they?

I guess it's relevant to the amount of damages one should receive. If there were a lot of death threats you should get more damages

Civil
Apr 21, 2003

Do you see this? This means "Have a nice day".

Froghammer posted:

That scene from The Office where they all run around shouting "PARKOUR" only it's Habba shouting mistrial

I DECLARE MISTRIAL

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Asterite34
May 19, 2009



Small Strange Bird posted:

I'm imagining Habba yelling "MISTRIAL!" in court with the same cadence as "JERK STORE!"

The place next to Four Seasons Landscaping?

Also, the headquarters of Colossal Man's secret villain organization, the Legion of Poon

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

John Wick of Dogs posted:

I guess it's relevant to the amount of damages one should receive. If there were a lot of death threats you should get more damages
Wouldn't gmail likely retain some information even if she "deleted" the emails from her inbox?

If she was told to retain evidence and deleted it then than's pretty bad but if they just need this information it can probably still be found.

Also ,

Waffle House
Oct 27, 2004

You follow the path
fitting into an infinite pattern.

Yours to manipulate, to destroy and rebuild.

Now, in the quantum moment
before the closure
when all become one.

One moment left.
One point of space and time.

I know who you are.

You are Destiny.


kazil posted:





lol habba

lol

Civil
Apr 21, 2003

Do you see this? This means "Have a nice day".
Is Trump still in the courtroom to witness the legal magic he his campaign is paying for?

PKMN Trainer Red
Oct 22, 2007



kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

Civil posted:

Is Trump still in the courtroom to witness the legal magic he his campaign is paying for?

It's over for the day but yeah he was there

pop fly to McGillicutty
Feb 2, 2004

A peckish little mouse!

First, thanks for posting these.

Second, LOL

funeral home DJ
Apr 21, 2003


Pillbug
Holy hell, how on earth did Habba manage to pass the drat bar? Was it a picture-book test?

Carlos Lantana
Oct 2, 2003

I'm really sorry, your avatar is giving me a boner and while that is perfectly OK and I don't want to kink shame anyone, its making me feel really weird getting a boner in a Trump thread.

Sincerely,

Jailbrekr

Catastrophe posted:



wtf? Sex is the way humanity continues on. Sex is the way that the people who MADE that graphic were created. I grew up in a deeply religious family that would broadcast a similar sentiment and I've always joked that my family/religion taught that sex is the most disgusting thing that Satan ever invented (said as a joke because they believe God created everything). But they do treat it that way. Fuckin' weirdos and perverts, all of them. Quit thinking about other people's sexual activity.

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Dr.Smasher
Nov 27, 2002

Cyberpunk 1987
Denver Fenton Allen was better as his own attorney, and he literally told a judge to go gently caress himself

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

the law understander weighs in

pop fly to McGillicutty
Feb 2, 2004

A peckish little mouse!
Also, I think you all are overthinking the "do you have threats?" question. I don't think it's about showing ANYTHING. I think it's about making Ms. Carroll read horrible poo poo that is scary and makes her uncomfortable. Malice is the point.


THE TRIAL IS OVER YOU IDIOT ITS DAMAGES

B-Rock452
Jan 6, 2005
:justflu:

funeral home DJ posted:

Holy hell, how on earth did Habba manage to pass the drat bar? Was it a picture-book test?

Lots of morons pass the bar. Very few of them end up representing a former president in a federal trial.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


mobby_6kl posted:

Wouldn't gmail likely retain some information even if she "deleted" the emails from her inbox?

If she was told to retain evidence and deleted it then than's pretty bad but if they just need this information it can probably still be found.

Also ,


This is stuff she deleted before there was ever even a trial

Toxic Mental
Jun 1, 2019

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Y4QCMH25hc

Outpost22
Oct 11, 2012

RIP Screamy You were too good for this world.

B-Rock452 posted:

Lots of morons pass the bar. Very few of them end up representing a former president in a federal trial.

Very few former presidents get brought up on federal charges

pop fly to McGillicutty
Feb 2, 2004

A peckish little mouse!

B-Rock452 posted:

Lots of morons pass the bar. Very few of them end up representing a former president in a federal trial.

My brother-in-law failed the Florida Bar six times before he passed, owns his own firm.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Passing the bar is a function of studying for the bar correctly, rather than any measure of intelligence

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BigglesSWE
Dec 2, 2014

How 'bout them hawks news huh!

John Wick of Dogs posted:

This is stuff she deleted before there was ever even a trial

It’s “but her e-mails 2: Hillaryous”.

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