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Prime should get the same Sports Illustrated AI that named him Sportsman of the Year to come coach his defense
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Jan 17, 2024 21:58
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I mean at this point there is zero reason to actually have football attached to the actual school outside nostalgia. They are functionally an independent thing that sometimes the school subsidizes without any real meaningful payoff
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Jan 17, 2024 22:00
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That's why i always say they should use their scholarship after their eligibility ends. Pay them a living wage and they can use their scholarship after they don't get drafted, or a few years later when their knee gets blown up in a bad tackle. This is also why some form of split needs to happen with D1 wherein the schools that are already running de-facto minor league pro programs should operate like this vs schools that are far closers to the traditional student athlete dynamic.
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Jan 17, 2024 22:05
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Soul Glo posted:a massive percentage of corporations in all manner of industries are operating at a constant loss and still paying their workers, even if they have forty divisions and only one happens to turn a profit (or none, even, in the case of something like warner bros.) I think the idea that all student athletes (or students at all…why are sports unique among clubs university clubs?) are employees of the university and that universities are essentially corporations is pretty hosed up actually. That’s how you end up with every degree program that isn’t a huge money maker getting axed. The argument for paying college football players has always been based on the significant surplus value their labor generates, not the fact that they play a game and it’s hard so they deserve money. The guy playing water polo in front of 30 people is doing it because he loves playing water polo and the school covers the costs of maintaining the team because it’s good for students to have hobbies and and passions outside of school. But his labor isn’t being exploited because the product of his labor isn’t financial gain accruing to someone else.
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Jan 17, 2024 22:06
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Gonz posted:I misread this as Marc Alaimo and was wondering if Gul Dukat of the Cardassian Union was talking football online. Attention Bajoran
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Jan 17, 2024 22:18
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A Sneaker Broker posted:How does Colorado not have a DC yet???? Maybe Colorado and Iowa should merge
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Soul Glo posted:a massive percentage of corporations in all manner of industries are operating at a constant loss and still paying their workers, even if they have forty divisions and only one happens to turn a profit (or none, even, in the case of something like warner bros.) You're thinking about it all wrong. The guy running track isn't labor. He's a guy running track in college because he wants to run track. That really is an extracurricular activity that the university is paying for.
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Jan 17, 2024 22:35
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Judgy Fucker posted:Attention Bajoran Saban, if you are seeing this recording, it means you tried to abandon your post while the stadium's self-destruct sequence was engaged. That will not be permitted. You have lost control of the Crimson Tide, disgracing yourself and Alabama. Your attempt to escape is no doubt a final act of cowardice. All fail-safes have been eliminated. Your personal access codes have been rescinded. The destruct sequence can no longer be halted. All you can do now is contemplate the depth of your disgrace and try to die like a, uh, Red Elephant.
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Jan 17, 2024 22:37
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean at this point there is zero reason to actually have football attached to the actual school outside nostalgia. They are functionally an independent thing that sometimes the school subsidizes without any real meaningful payoff That isn't true at all. Successful football teams help increase sustainable enrollment. Alabama completely transformed under Saban, increasing by over 20,000 students, with tons of new facilities, even outside the athletic department.
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Jan 17, 2024 22:38
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Fluffdaddy posted:That isn't true at all. Successful football teams help increase sustainable enrollment. Alabama completely transformed under Saban, increasing by over 20,000 students, with tons of new facilities, even outside the athletic department. lol
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Jan 17, 2024 22:42
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Enrollment increased 50% during Saban's run, most of that from out of state. Success brings more money to the city and the university, which makes the numbers go up. I don't understand the lol here.
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Jan 17, 2024 22:45
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Fluffdaddy posted:That isn't true at all. Successful football teams help increase sustainable enrollment. Alabama completely transformed under Saban, increasing by over 20,000 students, with tons of new facilities, even outside the athletic department. I don’t see what being attached to the school actually does for this. If you separated them administratively do you think most students would even notice ? They would still treat it as the school team by inertia if anything else
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Jan 17, 2024 22:48
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CharlestheHammer posted:I don’t see what being attached to the school actually does for this. If you separated them administratively do you think most students would even notice ? They would still treat it as the school team by inertia if anything else Because the finances are still interlinked and making it some separate but not separate entity wouldn't make any sense for anyone involved.
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean at this point there is zero reason to actually have football attached to the actual school outside nostalgia. They are functionally an independent thing that sometimes the school subsidizes without any real meaningful payoff I believe football/basketball usually fund every other sport the schools offer.
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''We want to build a university our football team can be proud of.''—Dr. George Lynn Cross, President of the University of Oklahoma circa 1952
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Fluffdaddy posted:Enrollment increased 50% during Saban's run, most of that from out of state. Success brings more money to the city and the university, which makes the numbers go up. I don't understand the lol here. This is true. Good teams bring in more out of state money.
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The further blackpilling on cfb fandom because transfer/NIL rules on Alabama being pantsed funny.
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Jan 17, 2024 23:09
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A Sneaker Broker posted:This is true. Good teams bring in more out of state money. Alabama is now 60% out of state compared to 30% when Saban took over.
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Fluffdaddy posted:Alabama is now 60% out of state compared to 30% when Saban took over. Another good team to look at is Texas. Potentially Colorado if they actually keep Prime and they start winning.
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CharlestheHammer posted:I don’t see what being attached to the school actually does for this. If you separated them administratively do you think most students would even notice ? They would still treat it as the school team by inertia if anything else As long as the players still had to be students at said school, no one would even notice anything was different.
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People here always underestimate the PR value that a good athletic program brings to a school. Alabama is/was thought of as a football powerhouse instead of a school in a backwater state. Smaller schools like Florida Gulf Coast or Valpo get remembered because of two weeks in March when they would otherwise be unknown outside of their local regions. That awareness in of itself is almost priceless in some cases.A Sneaker Broker posted:How does Colorado not have a DC yet???? Hire Brian Ferentz he can keep a team out of the end zone, if not scoring range.
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lol I just remembered Iowa still hasn’t hired an OC. Maybe Kirk will just design that offense and call plays, just for that extra Ferentz goodness. Like my buddy’s father in law who would brew a pot of coffee, pour it into the reservoir and brew another pot with the coffee as coffee water. Just More Ferentz.
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http://twitter.com/UW_Football/status/1747754307137777689 Arizona WR coach to UW confirmed. It's still likely Fifita and Mcmillan stay but this has the possibility to change things.
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C. Everett Koop posted:People here always underestimate the PR value that a good athletic program brings to a school. Alabama is/was thought of as a football powerhouse instead of a school in a backwater state. Smaller schools like Florida Gulf Coast or Valpo get remembered because of two weeks in March when they would otherwise be unknown outside of their local regions. That awareness in of itself is almost priceless in some cases. The school I got my Masters is one of those schools that people split into "before the time we made the Final Four" and "after the time we made the Final Four." Went from a commuter school to a regular university with dorms and everything in like five years.
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Sash! posted:The school I got my Masters is one of those schools that people split into "before the time we made the Final Four" and "after the time we made the Final Four." Went from a commuter school to a regular university with dorms and everything in like five years. go Mason
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Truther Vandross posted:These schools are eventually going to establish separate for-profit subsidiaries for football to get around Title IX and academics where the program is basically just leasing out space for practice and games from the university. They'll keep the college brands but it'll otherwise having nothing to do with traditional college athletics. After this happens, one day a college football player will be traded. pillsburysoldier posted:The further blackpilling on cfb fandom because transfer/NIL rules on Alabama being pantsed funny. Current transfer/NIL rules are great and allow Tulane to be competitive. Spacebump fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Jan 18, 2024 |
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LeeMajors posted:lol I just remembered Iowa still hasn’t hired an OC. Your friend should get his father in law an espresso maker for Christmas, drat. I'm making GBS threads my pants just thinking about that coffee
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean at this point there is zero reason to actually have football attached to the actual school outside nostalgia. They are functionally an independent thing that sometimes the school subsidizes without any real meaningful payoff
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Fluffdaddy posted:Enrollment increased 50% during Saban's run, most of that from out of state. Success brings more money to the city and the university, which makes the numbers go up. I don't understand the lol here. That mostly happened because Alabama began giving free tuition to out of state students with high SAT or ACT scores.
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Sash! posted:The school I got my Masters is one of those schools that people split into "before the time we made the Final Four" and "after the time we made the Final Four." Went from a commuter school to a regular university with dorms and everything in like five years. If you are talking George Mason, there is also a huge amount of money from far-right billionaires and foundations financing that growth.
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predicto posted:If you are talking George Mason, there is also a huge amount of money from far-right billionaires and foundations financing that growth. Works for me!
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predicto posted:If you are talking George Mason, there is also a huge amount of money from far-right billionaires and foundations financing that growth. Show me a school with prisitine funding, please.
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Judgy Fucker posted:Attention Bajoran Nice! Sash! posted:Saban, if you are seeing this recording, it means you tried to abandon your post while the stadium's self-destruct sequence was engaged. That will not be permitted. You have lost control of the Crimson Tide, disgracing yourself and Alabama. Your attempt to escape is no doubt a final act of cowardice. All fail-safes have been eliminated. Your personal access codes have been rescinded. The destruct sequence can no longer be halted. All you can do now is contemplate the depth of your disgrace and try to die like a, uh, Red Elephant. 
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predicto posted:That mostly happened because Alabama began giving free tuition to out of state students with high SAT or ACT scores. "Now, 58 percent of undergraduates come from outside Alabama, paying more than $30,000 in tuition to learn, tailgate, and go to fraternity parties at a school they may not have considered if Saban hadn’t drastically bolstered its public standing." "The truism holds at Alabama, though, as evidenced by the continued growth of the enrollment boom. In 2013, the university’s chancellor told 60 Minutes, 'Nick Saban is the best financial investment this university has ever made.'" https://www.theringer.com/college-football/2024/1/12/24035493/nick-saban-retired-legacy-alabama-college-football
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Yeah bud, you’re either crazy, stupid, or both if you think they weren’t milling the out of town kids for every red cent. My wife was one such example and it was staggering to hear how much more she paid than my local rear end.
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It's also not just something the University tells people for the hell of it. It's consistently acknowledged internally.
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swickles posted:Show me a school with prisitine funding, please. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrODhcpboW8
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swickles posted:Show me a school with prisitine funding, please. i dont know that they were criticizing, just stating
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