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Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo

If not for the toxic witch-hunting of the woke left,

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Tijuana Bibliophile
Dec 30, 2008

Scratchmo
I'm all for the dank popemobile

TACD
Oct 27, 2000

ThomasPaine posted:

One thing I'll never understand is footage I keep seeing on social media of normal members of the public fully going out of their way to apprehend people they've caught shoplifting, informing the staff and calling the police etc. Sometimes even risking their own health by fully tackling people. Just your average people, but completely unaffiliated and maybe out for milk. There's always people cheering them on the comments as well. If I see someone stealing I just laugh to myself and think good on them.

Like, thanks lads, Mr Tescos appreciates your hard unpaid work protecting his shareholder profits, nice one. Have a pat on the heat. Mind boggling.
apprehend a shoplifter and collect double clubcard points on your next shop!

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

TACD posted:

apprehend a shoplifter and collect double clubcard points on your next shop!

in three years you will have to citizens arrest at least three criminals a month in order to get any money off deals at all

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

mrpwase posted:

I remember when I was 18 and in my first year of uni, my then girlfriend shocked me by saying she didn't have any problem with shoplifting. I was properly unseated by this, couldn't get my head round someone thinking like that. Even at that stage in my life, with that worldview, I wouldn't have confronted a shoplifter.

When you have people with a idea about morality (stealing is wrong), a lack of political consciousness (Tesco looks after my best interests), and an impulse towards outrage (and maybe wanting to be seen as a hero), I can absolutely see how they would apprehend a shoplifter, no matter how wrongheaded it is.

I went on a shoplifting spree when i was 18, i went a bit loopy after seeing two neighbouring girls get run over and doing it made me feel alive for a little while (yay for lack of therapy in 1980s N.I. !!!). :rolleyes:

I paid the price for that and got on with my life afterwards.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.
coincidentally enough I saw an older guy walk out of sainsbury's up the road this morning after slipping a bottle of milk in his coat

or rather, no, I didn't






I mean there was a bit of shameful behaviour involved tbh

it was green top

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
I'm unashamedly team semi-skimmed

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Stealing where there's no adjacent victim may be a crime but justice is blind when it happens near me.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
i think those people who go in and nick a full trolley of stuff in broad daylight are taking the piss tbh

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
they're ruining it for the other shoplifters who really need to nick stuff so i've no problem with them getting a hiding

Wachter
Mar 23, 2007

You and whose knees?

The guy watching the self-service tills (not a security guard, just checkout staff) at Aldi just now had a loving bodycam :psyduck:

Is this a thing now? Is this one of those things that's been happening for ages but I only just noticed?

keep punching joe
Jan 22, 2006

Die Satan!

Angepain posted:

a Keir Starmer government will finally bring about the year of linux on the desktop

Someone asked him his feelings on BSD and he said it was anti semitic.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


crispix posted:

i think those people who go in and nick a full trolley of stuff in broad daylight are taking the piss tbh

I kind of admire the chutzpah, because I could never do that

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

crispix posted:

i think those people who go in and nick a full trolley of stuff in broad daylight are taking the piss tbh

IDK gives the more desperate shopper cover if the rozzers are barreling after the trolley bandit.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

Wachter posted:

The guy watching the self-service tills (not a security guard, just checkout staff) at Aldi just now had a loving bodycam :psyduck:

Is this a thing now? Is this one of those things that's been happening for ages but I only just noticed?

Haven't seen that in Tesco but many variables to consider. Maybe I'll try the one on the rougher side of town and see if it's different.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

Wachter posted:

The guy watching the self-service tills (not a security guard, just checkout staff) at Aldi just now had a loving bodycam :psyduck:

Is this a thing now? Is this one of those things that's been happening for ages but I only just noticed?

It's been a thing in some places for a little while.
Some shoplifters get increadibly violent if you confront them. And as shoplifting is way up so is violence towards staff

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


Angepain posted:

a Keir Starmer government will finally bring about the year of linux on the desktop

This is stolen valor from the Steam Deck and I won't have it.

ozebane
Nov 4, 2009

Wachter posted:

The guy watching the self-service tills (not a security guard, just checkout staff) at Aldi just now had a loving bodycam :psyduck:

Is this a thing now? Is this one of those things that's been happening for ages but I only just noticed?

Yeah, I worked in Tesco during lockdown and they were brought in around that time because customers were going ballistic when you tried to get them to follow social distancing.

Skarsnik
Oct 21, 2008

I...AM...RUUUDE!




Wachter posted:

The guy watching the self-service tills (not a security guard, just checkout staff) at Aldi just now had a loving bodycam :psyduck:

Is this a thing now? Is this one of those things that's been happening for ages but I only just noticed?

Yeah this is nothing new, it's getting increasingly common in pubs too

Rappaport
Oct 2, 2013

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

This is stolen valor from the Steam Deck and I won't have it.

Release Half-life 3, Gaben

No Alyx doesn't count

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

Wachter posted:

The guy watching the self-service tills (not a security guard, just checkout staff) at Aldi just now had a loving bodycam :psyduck:

Is this a thing now? Is this one of those things that's been happening for ages but I only just noticed?

it's been a thing since covid, people regularly behave like animals in service environments, seems

mrpwase
Apr 21, 2010

I HAVE GREAT AVATAR IDEAS
For the Many, Not the Few


Tesseraction posted:

the rozzers are barreling after the trolley bandit

This sounds like a sentence from a tabloid from an alternate universe where tabloids have good politics

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Mega Comrade posted:

It's been a thing in some places for a little while.
Some shoplifters get increadibly violent if you confront them. And as shoplifting is way up so is violence towards staff

Why would you ever confront one. You're just ruining someone's sneaky but ultimately victimless crime, and you're risking injury and legal consequences to boot. I wouldn't bother even if I was staff*, and I think quite a few places have a policy of not chasing shoplifters in any case, they just pass the footage on to the police and I imagine claim the difference back from an insurer.

*I would be a very poor security guard

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
I wouldnt rugby tackle a shoplifter but I've always fancied a cheeky trip on a mugger

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Brendan Rodgers posted:

I've been learning to drive lately, and with PIP, I'm eligible for a Motability leased car, is it a good deal? Does anyone have experience with that? It's like they take 50-70 quid out of your PIP per week (based on what you choose) and lease you a new car and also provide insurance in that price. It's the insurance part that appeals to me the most since if I'm reading it right, that lease + insurance cost will be less than just the insurance on an old car I actually own, as a new driver. I've been trying all the permutations in the insurance finder websites and the numbers are eye popping.

Was thinking I could do that for a year or two and then my insurance cost would drop a lot and I could then buy a cheap banger but I don't even know if that no claims bonus transfers over or whatever.

My grandmother had the motability car and if you think you're gonna use it a lot then it's probably a decent deal. But in her later years she scrapped it and just got taxis instead which I think you can also have the money for instead?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

ThomasPaine posted:

*I would be a very poor security guard
I think the cost of living crisis has radicalized people in two ways. One of my mates who works as a security guard has gone fully "if you see someone shoplifting a small bit of essential food, nah you didn't, wipe your glasses" so I assume a bunch of outrage addicts who haven't been so badly affected have gone the other way.

Especially those whose media environment is made up of Richard Madeley and Jeremy Vine doing variations on "if I saw someone commit a minor by-law offence I'd pull out a pair of those stabby things from the turtle mutants and be like heeeee-yoh well not me personally but other people should be doing that."

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

NotJustANumber99 posted:

I wouldnt rugby tackle a shoplifter but I've always fancied a cheeky trip on a mugger

Oh yeah that's a different thing entirely because you have to victimise and threaten an actual person to do it. I just assume every mugger has a machete under their coat though so I'd probably just hand over my poo poo lol.

For some reason this is reminding me of when I came second in a poker tournament a few months back and in my slightly inebriated state decided to walk home with £500 in my back pocket at 3am. I've never had any bother of that kind before here but that would have been a hell of a day to break my lucky streak lmao. I'm surprised shady people don't loiter outside the casino waiting for anyone who looks pleased with themselves and decides to leave alone on foot.

ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Jan 19, 2024

Wachter
Mar 23, 2007

You and whose knees?

answers posted:

yes

Christ

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

DesperateDan posted:

coincidentally enough I saw an older guy walk out of sainsbury's up the road this morning after slipping a bottle of milk in his coat

or rather, no, I didn't

I rememebr when I was working in sainsburys and a guy stuffed a big choccy bar into is coat and then looked up directly at me, I think he shat himself a little bit cos he legged it past me lmao.

As long as you don't fight anyone or wreck the shop I don't bloody care. Better than the guy who skidded round the corner with a bag full of spirits and crashed straight into my display and went sprawling on the floor. loving pina colada over everything. Dickhead. Took ages to clean up.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

ThomasPaine posted:

Why would you ever confront one. You're just ruining someone's sneaky but ultimately victimless crime, and you're risking injury and legal consequences to boot. I wouldn't bother even if I was staff*, and I think quite a few places have a policy of not chasing shoplifters in any case, they just pass the footage on to the police and I imagine claim the difference back from an insurer.

*I would be a very poor security guard

Often it's customers who get involved.
Didn't feel very victimless when one guy pulled out a syringe and threatened me with it.

History Comes Inside!
Nov 20, 2004




I saw a security guard tackle a shoplifter directly into the sliding doors at the exit hard enough to pop them off their slidey rail bits, but in his defence the guy had done his thievery by targeting and then assaulting a disabled member of staff after they unlocked a cabinet to fetch some expensive electrical thing so the oval office had it coming.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Mega Comrade posted:

Often it's customers who get involved.
Didn't feel very victimless when one guy pulled out a syringe and threatened me with it.

Yeah sometimes involuntarily too, if they do a runner they often smack into customers on the way out. Course to an extent that's still an issue with the store protection trying to collar them but they often don't give a poo poo about the other people in the building. I once had a guy storm out cos the store asked him to pay for his bag of shopping and abandon his kid in a pushchair in the process. There's some right wankers out there.

DreddyMatt
Nov 25, 2002
MY LACK OF KNOWLEDGE OF CURRENT EVENTS IS EXCEEDED ONLY BY MY UNQUENCHABLE THIRST FOR PISS. FUK U AMERIKKKA!!

ThomasPaine posted:

Oh yeah that's a different thing entirely because you have to victimise and threaten an actual person to do it. I just assume every mugger has a machete under their coat though so I'd probably just hand over my poo poo lol.


One of the things I enjoyed about Spain is that muggings are basically non existent.
Pickpocketing is a fine, but using threats or violence is jail time, so everyone just gets good at pickpocketing, so it's a game of skill.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!
Even with the sneaky ones who avoided violence, spending ages trying to track down stock that's missing was a constant nuisance.
Get a customer phone up asking for an item I'd see 5 in stock so tell him to come in and then turned out they had all been knicked. I was then left with a customer berating me for wasting his time.

Skarsnik
Oct 21, 2008

I...AM...RUUUDE!




It's a difficult one cos whilst I'd never even consider stopping or snitching on someone I'd seen, I'm not sure I'd ever encourage it because of the staff

If it gets done in front of staff you're putting them in a lovely position where if they blatantly ignore it they could get pulled up on it and disciplined

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
I would clothesline and armlock people who start eating the food in the shop before paying for it.

thebardyspoon
Jun 30, 2005

Skarsnik posted:

It's a difficult one cos whilst I'd never even consider stopping or snitching on someone I'd seen, I'm not sure I'd ever encourage it because of the staff

If it gets done in front of staff you're putting them in a lovely position where if they blatantly ignore it they could get pulled up on it and disciplined

Yeah this is about where I'm at. I genuinely don't care what someones doing as long as they aren't loving with the staff but it's helped by me being so bored and self absorbed while shopping that I probably just won't ever notice anyone doing anything like this anyway so even if I wanted to narc (which I don't, to be clear) I wouldn't be in a position to.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
We could have a society where we made sure that people were fed, and that'd render the "is it wrong for a starving person to shove a shop worker to steal a loaf of bread" debate moot.

Instead we have one with articles like "I lied to a priest on Easter and said my children were starving and he gave me all this food, disgusting, broken Britain."

NotJustANumber99 posted:

I would clothesline and armlock people who start eating the food in the shop before paying for it.
But would you do the martial arts noises?

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Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
I'm not gonna let shops think they can offload their security onto customers for free. That's like game companies offloading their QA onto customers with all the early access bullshit

Shops can hire their own security if they don't want poo poo nicked. Create some goddamn jobs you fuckers

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