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credburn posted:Recently I got into an argument with a friend because he described Dream Theatre as "progressive metal" I'm pretty certain Dream Theater themselves describe themselves as 'progressive metal'. They are probably the experts on what kind of music they themselves create.
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tango alpha delta posted:I'm pretty certain Dream Theater themselves describe themselves as 'progressive metal'. They are probably the experts on what kind of music they themselves create. Eh you would think so. Ray Bradbury swore fahrenheit 451 wasn't about censorship. And it annoyed him to a great extent that that's what people got out of it.
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Cosmik Debris posted:Broad terms are necessary when you're talking to someone not intimately familiar with the subject matter in question. Otherwise you go off about some thing using a bunch of jargon and they just nod and go big gulps, huh, alright. I agree with you and it's why I think heavy music or something like that is a more broad term. I'm also big into blues, so I care. I like hill country, Memphis blues, some delta blues, and oddballs like Muddy Waters (born into Mississippi blues but known as a Chicago bluesman). But hill country especially.
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Cosmik Debris posted:Eh you would think so. Ray Bradbury swore fahrenheit 451 wasn't about censorship. And it annoyed him to a great extent that that's what people got out of it. Ray Bradbury changed his stance about Fahrenheit 451 more than a few times. I think he was just trying to make sure his allegory stayed relevant. I really, really like Bradbury's anthologies of short stories; R is for Rocket, S is for Space and so on, but, even though I've tried many, many times to read them, his full length novels just do not click for me at all. e:as a tangent, I think we are currently living in a version of Aldous Huxley's Brave New World and Orwell's Animal Farm, just to make sure I cover all the bases. e:oh poo poo, How the hell did I forget Jonathan Swift's 'A Modest Proposal'? There, that's the full timeline we seem to be in right now. tango alpha delta fucked around with this message at 05:32 on Jan 19, 2024 |
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Hill country was not something Im familiar with. I looked it up and it appears it's just a new name for the delta bluesmen who inspired bands like the black keys. The Wikipedia article for hill country blues was created in 2011. So idk how I feel about that being it's own thing but whatever, it's not up to me.
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I've heard hill country lumped in with Delta or broader Mississippi blues and wouldn't argue hard about it being a truly distinct genre, but there's a definite sound unique to that region. Guys like Othar Turner, Fred McDowell, RL Burnside, and Junior Kimbrough cemented the comparatively simple song structures and driving hypnotic (monotonous?) rhythms as their sound. It's pretty closely tied to the fife and drum music from the sugarcane plantations, which was also musically simple. Look up the Rising Star Fife and Drum Band, it's a very cool story. Othar Turner's granddaughter Sharde is doing her best to keep it going but it's dying out. I saw them a few times at the North Mississippi Hill Country Picnic, and would recommend a pilgrimage there to anyone into the blues. The influences of hill country are still going in a few bands. Early Black Keys (they did a record called Chulahoma, all Junior Kimbrough's songs), North Mississippi Allstars, Left Lane Cruiser, Otis Taylor, Cedric Burnside (recent Grammy winner), to name a few. Fat Possum records is or was the best place to find most of them. Alan Lomax documented a bunch, look up his videos of RL Burnside. Its getting way down in the genre splitting weeds, but there are some old, old traditions that I love.
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lol if you don't like rust in peace, lmao even
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Teach us about the gd blues already!! e: ^^they know what's up
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Disco Pope posted:All this cowboy chat makes me think of a guy I know who thought cowboys and medieval knights were contemporaries. He couldn't fathom that cowboys and Dickens were at the same time. Was he a producer at the show The Ultimate Warrior?
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"Heavy music" sucks in a bunch of punk derived genres that aren't related to metal.
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HenryJLittlefinger posted:I've heard hill country lumped in with Delta or broader Mississippi blues and wouldn't argue hard about it being a truly distinct genre, but there's a definite sound unique to that region. Guys like Othar Turner, Fred McDowell, RL Burnside, and Junior Kimbrough cemented the comparatively simple song structures and driving hypnotic (monotonous?) rhythms as their sound. It's pretty closely tied to the fife and drum music from the sugarcane plantations, which was also musically simple. Look up the Rising Star Fife and Drum Band, it's a very cool story. Othar Turner's granddaughter Sharde is doing her best to keep it going but it's dying out. I saw them a few times at the North Mississippi Hill Country Picnic, and would recommend a pilgrimage there to anyone into the blues. Yeah I maybe came off a bit flippant in my earlier comment. That piqued my interest having never heard that term before, but it's already stuff I'm familiar with. I agree it's a bit genre splitting, but I think with the influence of black keys it was bound to happen. I never heard anybody care about junior Kimbrough and rl Burnside before them. That stuff also isn't that old, it's like 70s and later iirc. Definitely a cool genre for sure and some of the stories of those guys are cool. But they mostly came from the much earlier country blues tradition which kinda died out after the war. So I had always just considered them post war country blues.
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I hate murder shows. gently caress them all. NCIS. CSI. All the British poo poo.
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Doctor Butts posted:I hate murder shows. gently caress them all. The way that British crime TV has collectively imagined disturbing grisly murder as woven into the fabric of even the tiniest hamlet is amazing. American shows have only dabbled in that because it has enough big cities to use in its stories. But I expect at some point there'll be some British crime mini-series where one of those "oh what have I seen them in" actors is investigating murder in a fishing village with only one person left alive.
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The best western is High Plains Drifter. Except for the rape scene.
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Lobok posted:The way that British crime TV has collectively imagined disturbing grisly murder as woven into the fabric of even the tiniest hamlet is amazing. American shows have only dabbled in that because it has enough big cities to use in its stories. But I expect at some point there'll be some British crime mini-series where one of those "oh what have I seen them in" actors is investigating murder in a fishing village with only one person left alive. "Cosy" murder in general fucks me off (and I feel oopy-goopy shitlib aunt murder podcasts and documentaries have been covered enough), but I appreciate none of the audience wants to think about 15 year-olds stabbing each other in parks or domestic violence or two 48yr old olf friends scrapping outside a Wetherspoons and cracking their skulls open on the pavement. Just the Little Parishton Chess Club poisoning each other with custard creams or whatever the gently caress.
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Presto posted:The best western is High Plains Drifter. It's also the best beastie boys song
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Disco Pope posted:"Cosy" murder in general fucks me off (and I feel oopy-goopy shitlib aunt murder podcasts and documentaries have been covered enough), but I appreciate none of the audience wants to think about 15 year-olds stabbing each other in parks or domestic violence or two 48yr old olf friends scrapping outside a Wetherspoons and cracking their skulls open on the pavement. Just the Little Parishton Chess Club poisoning each other with custard creams or whatever the gently caress. *slides The First 48 viewing history under the rug* Presto posted:The best western is High Plains Drifter. I actually stopped watching the movie at that one, it was real bad
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Lobok posted:The way that British crime TV has collectively imagined disturbing grisly murder as woven into the fabric of even the tiniest hamlet is amazing. American shows have only dabbled in that because it has enough big cities to use in its stories. But I expect at some point there'll be some British crime mini-series where one of those "oh what have I seen them in" actors is investigating murder in a fishing village with only one person left alive. MURDER HAMLET, She Wrote...
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I love Murder She Wrote but after the 4th or 283rd murder I stumbled into I'd grow more and more certain I was literally cursed
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I don't have a problem with Whodunnits and I guess horror is one of my comfort genres, but when creators blur true-crime and cozy crime fiction, I do find that a bit tasteless.Punkinhead posted:I love Murder She Wrote but after the 4th or 283rd murder I stumbled into I'd grow more and more certain I was literally cursed Diagnosis: Murder has the funniest title a TV show can have. Just a loving MD refusing to acknowledge how someone died, but diagnosis what the accused should be sentenced with. Somewhere in that Universe, a judge is using his gavel to test knee reflexes and sentencing people to 6-months of gout. Disco Pope fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Jan 19, 2024 |
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Murder She Wrote is similar to Law and Order and other shows in that they always follow pretty much the same story beats. You can look at a clock and pretty accurately predict where the plot has progressed in a series like that. For example, with Law and Order it's usually something like: Crime happens Wisecracking detectives are on the case Fake out to make it look like the case has been cracked Twist/true perp caught Legal wrangling/Jack McCoy probably employing questionable tactics to Get His Man Twist/breakthrough/breakthrough witness The person is sent to prison or gets off on a technicality and Jack McCoy has to stand there and watch the person walk off scot free End credits F_Shit_Fitzgerald fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Jan 19, 2024 |
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:For example, with Law and Order it's usually something like: Executive Producer Dick Wolf
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I've been watching Grimm which is set in Portland OR, so a pretty big city. But every episode is pretty much a murder, sometimes many, and I can only get the impression that Portland OR is the murder capital or the world.
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Punkinhead posted:I love Murder She Wrote but after the 4th or 283rd murder I stumbled into I'd grow more and more certain I was literally cursed Cabot Cove has many multiples of East St. Louis’s murder rate, yet has a thriving tourism industry.
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redshirt posted:I've been watching Grimm which is set in Portland OR, so a pretty big city. But every episode is pretty much a murder, sometimes many, and I can only get the impression that Portland OR is the murder capital or the world. There's a new, Canadian Law & Order coming out and they chose Toronto but statistically I think it should have been Winnipeg.
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Lobok posted:There's a new, Canadian Law & Order coming out and they chose Toronto but statistically I think it should have been Winnipeg. Seriously. Toronto is the least interesting city possible for this. As an alternative to Winnipeg (still a great choice), I'd set it in Regina, and have every other episode be Roughriders-related somehow.
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redshirt posted:I've been watching Grimm which is set in Portland OR, so a pretty big city. But every episode is pretty much a murder, sometimes many, and I can only get the impression that Portland OR is the murder capital or the world. for a brief time in the 90s, richmond, which is often compared to portland but is much smaller, was the murder capital of the us. Petersburg, an even smaller city a short drive to the south, still ranks extremely highly to this day. the first season of A&E's crime 360 show was filmed here.
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Cosmik Debris posted:my father in law ALWAYS has westerns on when we go up to visit and it's ALWAYS the Virginian and that show is hilarious. They refuse to call him by name! you'd think after he saved their skin the first time they'd bother to learn his name. My dad always puts on that cable channel for old folks that's nothing but Westerns so when I visit, I see a lot of the Virginian or Gunsmoke. Then there's Cheyenne. What is the deal with Cheyenne, anyway? He seems to drift from town to town and immediately get involved in trouble. What's he supposed to do, anyway? I think he's ostensibly a cowboy, but he just seems like a drifter who always gets into other people's business and sometimes he's doing cowboy poo poo. And everyone seems to be familiar with him wherever he goes. Every time I see my dad watching I Cheyenne I say "gently caress you, Cheyenne, I don't trust you."
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I have a thing with a lot of Westerns where the scenery absolutely drains me. I loving hate deserts; trees and rivers and storms rolling in fill me with life and watching angry people wander around endless barren waste makes me feel suffocated as gently caress. The exceptions are usually Coen Westerns since they like filming difficult times of day and in varying weather conditions. When the scenery's static, I wanna die.
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Aramis posted:Seriously. Toronto is the least interesting city possible for this. Canada already did it better itself anyway with DaVinci's Inquest but yeah, somewhere where it could be Blood-soaked Flannel would be more interesting. Like a place where Letterkenny is just outside the city limits.
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Das Boo posted:I have a thing with a lot of Westerns where the scenery absolutely drains me. I loving hate deserts; trees and rivers and storms rolling in fill me with life and watching angry people wander around endless barren waste makes me feel suffocated as gently caress. What, you don't like the paramount ranch? or any of the other 20 movie ranches where every american western picture was filmed? All within a convenient drive of LA? Cosmik Debris fucked around with this message at 18:39 on Jan 19, 2024 |
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Das Boo posted:I have a thing with a lot of Westerns where the scenery absolutely drains me. I loving hate deserts; trees and rivers and storms rolling in fill me with life and watching angry people wander around endless barren waste makes me feel suffocated as gently caress. lol, I don't usually care or think it's quite beautiful but there was an Aussie Western from several years ago that was supposed to be really good, I wanna say Guy Pearce was in it? But after fifteen minutes I could feel MY lips getting chapped from watching it and I turned it off.
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The Proposition Great movie, written by Nick Cave
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I've been enjoying the scenery in recent westerns shot in northern New Mexico.
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northern new mexico is loving gorgeous. I did philmont when I was a kid and it was awesome.
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I never did Philmont but I've spent a bunch of time in the Taos area. I really want to go back soon and do some hiking or biking.
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By the time I had a TV as a kid, Twin Peaks was off the air and Northern Exposure had picked up the mantle of 'oddball townies show' or whatever, and I despised it. All the edges had been filed off, replaced with dull eccentricity. I see a direct lineage from Northern Exposure to The Office, Parks and Recreation, Party Down (that's right), Ted Lasso and stuff like that, where all the characters are supposed to be cozy and relatable in some way. They're like Thorazine in television form. I don't like it when people on TV are supposed to be like my friends or something. Exceptions: Cheers and Night Court. Just fantastic shows, and I'm not sure why I like them so much. (Frasier and Friends suck too.) I just finished the first run of Twin Peaks, the fulfillment of a childhood bucket list item, and it was great. Got Fire Walk With Me waiting for me at the local library.
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Cosmik Debris posted:Eh you would think so. Ray Bradbury swore fahrenheit 451 wasn't about censorship. And it annoyed him to a great extent that that's what people got out of it. “Let’s find out the temperature an author burns at!” cackles Barthes, as he turns on his flamethrower
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