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Eat My Fuc posted:AEW never needed more than 1 TV show. Now their tapings are too long and filled with matches no one cares about. AEW has, very literally, always needed more than 1 TV show. Always. From the second of its inception.
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Hefty Leftist posted:compare the two I don't think it's particularly helpful to compare one of the best crowds with one of the worst. Crowd last night wasn't good, it happens.
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Pylons posted:I don't think it's particularly helpful to compare one of the best crowds with one of the worst. Crowd last night wasn't good, it happens. Not to mention this idea that a small crowd can’t be loud. I’ve been to Indy shows with 200 people that get louder than stadium shows.
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magiccarpet posted:Adam Cole got zero reaction last night That's because he wasn't wearing the Halo gear
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The_Rob posted:Not to mention this idea that a small crowd can’t be loud. I’ve been to Indy shows with 200 people that get louder than stadium shows. WWE shows are like 7-10k these says and the crowd still doesn't give a poo poo for a lot of it.
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Pylons posted:I don't think it's particularly helpful to compare one of the best crowds with one of the worst. Crowd last night wasn't good, it happens.
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History Comes Inside! posted:AEW still has too many guys for the tv time it has now The solution to this is a smaller roster, not more TV hours.
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forkboy84 posted:The solution to this is a smaller roster, not more TV hours. have you seen the roster, i’m not sure they could get much smaller
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They also always had endless tapings with Dark squashes before they were running Collision and ROH, to say nothing of Rampage matches. It really does just boil down to a combination of subpar local promotion not getting the brand out, a down period they're recovering from, high ticket prices, and let's be honest the many waves of diseases going around right now aren't helping either. They gotta fix it! And with WWE cutting deals to prevent AEW from running their venues within certain timeframes it shuts out certain regular markets. AEW come here and run UD Arena or something Also the last Collision in St. Louis and the Daily's Place shows were loud as hell, chalk that up to good acoustics or whatever but they felt good.
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keithy george posted:It's been a trend for a long time, I'm sure there's a graph somewhere that shows per head revenue is up or something, but the shows feel and look dead. There's a lack of promotion for the shows, but at the same time if I watch the show on TV I am not compelled to buy tickets to what looks like an awkward, echoey event. I don't really agree with that. Last week's Collision had a great crowd and it was under 4k people.
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There was a period of what feels like months where the majority of the card would be announced by Tony on twitter the day of the show, which can't have been great for ticket sales. Would you buy tickets to a show where all that was announce was that you would HEAR FROM MJF and there would be some ROH matches between Josh Woods and a member of the audience ?
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I was stunned when they announced a match that was TWO WEEKS AWAY last night. Felt like I was back in 2020.
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Hefty Leftist posted:i think most things seem to be improving and building up interest again. it's just the crowd now that's the main issue for me. a wrestling show without a hot crowd is incredibly bland no matter how good the talent are I think the crowd last night did the best they could. They popped for everything the show gave them. The quietest they got was during the Rosa/Velvet match and even there they cheered when something happened. Just not a lot happened. But yeah there's only so much you can do as 1800 people in a big building.
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Rosa is washed Blunder Rosa I don't know if she's washed or not. I just wanted to say that
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Quantum of Phallus posted:Rosa is washed I think her presentation and charisma are great, but her two singles matches have been really clunky since she's come back. I'm sure ring rust is a factor, but she's struggled to get people up for her finisher, looks like she's forgetting stuff from spot to spot, and just generally looks slow. Also her new song is a massive downgrade.
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I'm usually more of a hoot and hollar guy but last night was hard to hoot and hollar for.
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The_Rob posted:Hangman vs Penta rocked yep it was good
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JUNGLE BOY posted:have you seen the roster, i’m not sure they could get much smaller lol
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just out of curiosity i looked and the official AEW website roster has 125 men and 35 women, including managers and people like Colt or Ogogo who haven't worked in a while, to fill 5 hours a week of AEW. That's 25 men and 7 women per hour! Wow fans!
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projecthalaxy posted:just out of curiosity i looked and the official AEW website roster has 125 men and 35 women, including managers and people like Colt or Ogogo who haven't worked in a while, to fill 5 hours a week of AEW. That's 25 men and 7 women per hour! Wow fans! We need more brawls and party matches 
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Every show starts with a reverse battle royal to try and get in the ring and get booked. Every week Miro sits on the ramp.
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MJeff posted:I was stunned when they announced a match that was TWO WEEKS AWAY last night. Felt like I was back in 2020. That's because it was for this show: Dango Bango posted:Still plenty of tickets left for this next Phoenix show. (I am very curious to see how many tickets moved with the Sting announcement. A couple of floor seats I was watching on the secondary market sold immediately after the announcement was made.)
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projecthalaxy posted:just out of curiosity i looked and the official AEW website roster has 125 men and 35 women, including managers and people like Colt or Ogogo who haven't worked in a while, to fill 5 hours a week of AEW. That's 25 men and 7 women per hour! Wow fans! https://www.postwrestling.com/2024/01/25/anthony-ogogo-re-signs-with-aew/ good news they resigned ogogo
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Yeah the crowd really sucked. I also thought Penta vs Hanger and Copeland vs Suzuki were good matches and I like what's going on with Joe as champ and the whole continuation of Swerve vs Hanger. It was not an embarrassing show or anything. It was just a weak episode all things considered.
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The typical hour of AEW show will have 2 or 3 matches, and at least one is a tag. It will also have at least one interview segment plus a few quick backstage segments. Given that I’d estimate you need 15-20 wrestlers/managers per hour of AEW programming. So the ideal roster size would be about 75-100. 100 would probably be better because then you can easily give time off, injury leave, etc.
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JUNGLE BOY posted:https://www.postwrestling.com/2024/01/25/anthony-ogogo-re-signs-with-aew/ i've been watching aew more or less weekly since august 2022 and haven't seen that guy once. so uh happy trails i guess. e: oh re-signed not resigned. well cant wait to see him. happy trails to my tv screen. Sisal Two-Step fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Jan 25, 2024 |
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Sisal Two-Step posted:i've been watching aew more or less weekly since august 2022 and haven't seen that guy once. so uh happy trails i guess. Cody beat him up while he was on his quest to defeat racism after the worst weigh-in in recorded history and that’s everything of note about Ogogo’s wrestling career.
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