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Cup Runneth Over posted:did you spend the last week furiously reading theory so you could write this response to my post i mean, idk if this is a great place to throw stones, given the dsa organizes direct action by workers while marxist governments banned direct action by workers
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America Inc. posted:Which one, Marx, Bakunin, Kropotkin, or Bookchin? Even if we're going with Marx there's a million orgs that say they represent Marx besides the DS of A. Do you seize the means of production violently or by democratic means? How exactly is the dictatorship of the proletariat structured? Which one? Any of them assuming you have the time. Something like the Conquest of Bread is a good starting point for a left libertarian bent because it's straightforward & fairly short. Theory is useful. It shouldn't subsume the practical, but having a theoretical base helps understand the world, a thing that is handy it you envision changing it significantly.Or course there's plenty contradictions and different interpretations, theory is essentially philosophy. That's not a good reason to not have a grounding in Marx. Is it essential? No. But it's a useful backbone. If nothing else it helps you learn from the mistakes of those who've gone before you. If you can't see why that's useful then I dunno what to tell you.
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Cactus Ghost posted:i mean, idk if this is a great place to throw stones, given the dsa organizes direct action by workers while marxist governments banned direct action by workers it seems fairly straightforward to me that an explicitly anticommunist organization is not communist. regardless of how you feel about marxist governments, the DSA does not claim to represent Marx. the DSA represents "Nordic socialism," i.e. social democracy
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Cup Runneth Over posted:it seems fairly straightforward to me that an explicitly anticommunist organization is not communist. regardless of how you feel about marxist governments, the DSA does not claim to represent Marx. the DSA represents "Nordic socialism," i.e. social democracy
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Just got my primary voter guide yesterday and something stood out right away for me. On the candidates page, their eyes have been photoshopped to look whiter and the result is uncanny. Also what's the deal with Prop 1? Seems good from just skimming.
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Isn't the DSA a bunch of Putinists these days?
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DSA is a Twitter subculture with a vestigal bankrupt organization comprised of people who would be better served in different organizations like progressive dems, psl, or food not bombs, but people who call them putinists are hilariously stupid
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Spazzle posted:Putinists
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big black turnout posted:DSA is a Twitter subculture with a vestigal bankrupt organization comprised of people who would be better served in different organizations like progressive dems, psl, or food not bombs, but people who call them putinists are hilariously stupid What do you call people who screen just asking question documentaries about ukraine?
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Sir please show me all your tattoos Are you a member of the Redondo Rascals?
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Spazzle posted:Isn't the DSA a bunch of Putinists these days? This is an extremely MSNBC brain statement
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Spazzle posted:Isn't the DSA a bunch of Putinists these days? i believe the news cycle has progressed and we are now a bunch of terrorists
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I believe they're now "Iranian-backed militias"
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Spazzle posted:Isn't the DSA a bunch of Putinists these days? Serious answer: it was one DSA group in one city that said dumb poo poo about Ukraine.
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As a person in DSA, I can comfortably say that every DSA is its own weird cell that is utterly different from every other cell and has basically nothing to do with National and in fact usually hates it. It's just a generic holding tank for area leftists of every stripe who are waiting for conditions to change enough that more redacted forms of political action become viable. It's a lot of forming mutual aid networks with other left groups. All of the weird horny polyamorists and sex creeps were drummed out of our chapter like 8 years ago at this point and every other left group mentioned in the "you should do this instead" post are by and large some form of insane, incompetent, filled with the sex creep dregs, or collapsing in on themselves for all of those reasons plus others. Politics is fake in America and we're all just trying to figure poo poo out locally until such time as politics is not fake.
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Spazzle posted:Isn't the DSA a bunch of Putinists these days? loving lol
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Spazzle posted:Isn't the DSA a bunch of Putinists these days? The word you're thinking of is polycule.
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SlimGoodbody posted:and every other left group mentioned in the "you should do this instead" post are by and large some form of insane, incompetent, filled with the sex creep dregs, or collapsing in on themselves for all of those reasons plus others. weird that memories about this got dredged up twice for me by conversations here but really why the gently caress is it that groups like psl bombed out with rapecreep poo poo so hard
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Staluigi posted:weird that memories about this got dredged up twice for me by conversations here but really why the gently caress is it that groups like psl bombed out with rapecreep poo poo so hard Everything has to be shared
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Staluigi posted:weird that memories about this got dredged up twice for me by conversations here but really why the gently caress is it that groups like psl bombed out with rapecreep poo poo so hard men, mostly
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Weembles posted:The word you're thinking of is polycule. Some things are obvious.
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Did this thread already poo poo all over Gavin for making state employees report to <arbitrary location> 2 days a week for COLLABORATION yet?
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No but I'm here for it because it's loving stupid
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We haven't been affected yet but I've been low-key freaking out about it because I adopted a dog in November and don't have a backyard so he can pee. e: Also 4 of the 7 people in my unit live out of the area, that'll be fun Tayter Swift fucked around with this message at 06:59 on Jan 26, 2024 |
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6 of 8 in my unit don't live anywhere near their unit. I'm 8 hours away.
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Oh wait, I can report to my nearest office so I can teams my team lmao thanks Newsom
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The Wiggly Wizard posted:Just got my primary voter guide yesterday and something stood out right away for me. On the candidates page, their eyes have been photoshopped to look whiter and the result is uncanny. I dunno but I am voting yes on it because the Howard Jarvis people are arguing against it. Bipartisan support seems like a good idea. And yes, I read the arguments in the voter guide and it seems worth approving.
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Henrik Zetterberg posted:Did this thread already poo poo all over Gavin for making state employees report to <arbitrary location> 2 days a week for COLLABORATION yet? my favorite part was the CalEPA director's email that someone posted on reddit that starts off talking about how much the move to full time telework did to further the mission of the agency followed by the most hollow however, teamwork and collaboration spiel that read as if it was written at gunpoint
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At least CalEPA let you read between the lines, because other letters made the directors look like boot licking simps horny for the office. But good news, you can travel to your nearest office, even if it's not your agency. You know, to collaborate. Another excellent example of the inability to truly address climate change and its causes.
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The Orange County Coalition of Police and Sheriffs want Prop 1 to happen, which tells me it's probably extremely bad and shouldn't happen. The Howard Jarvis dickheads might just be opposing it incidentally, because they always oppose anything that might raise taxes on rich people.
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Dr. Fraiser Chain posted:At least CalEPA let you read between the lines, because other letters made the directors look like boot licking simps horny for the office. But good news, you can travel to your nearest office, even if it's not your agency. You know, to collaborate. 100%, and even when the rumblings were happening back months ago about the potential statewide RTO it was clear as day it was coming from the governor's office for absolute bullshit reasons. Been nice to see the unions start to work together to address this since between RTO and the governor wanting to negotiate the piddly stipend away, Newsome should absolutely be getting reamed over it. Not that I ever got to fuckin telework ever throughout covid anyhow but oh fuckin well
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Wow I'm going through the candidate statements in the voter info guide and... we sure have an above average amount of complete loonies running this time, huh? Also lmao at me reading Don J. Grundmann's schizopost entry to my wife and her response being "This guy sounds like evil Dr. Bronner." I also read the Political Party Statements of Purpose pages, and why are Green and Peace & Freedom not just forming a bloc? They have the same agenda. Just call yourselves the Socialist Party or something, it's what you both say you're running on. Honestly, American Independent and Libertarian could probably fold into each other as well for how similar and crypto-fash their agendas are. The Republican Party one calls out the need to fix the high cost of living, and I have no clue what their policy proposition could possibly be to fix that. Probably something laughable like "eliminate taxes on businesses, so they can pass those savings on to consumers" or "everyone gets a slave from prison."
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SlimGoodbody posted:The Republican Party one calls out the need to fix the high cost of living, and I have no clue what their policy proposition could possibly be to fix that. Probably something laughable like "eliminate taxes on businesses, so they can pass those savings on to consumers" or "everyone gets a slave from prison." Cut all taxes, repeal environmental law, bulldoze the libraries
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The Wiggly Wizard posted:Cut all [limits on] taxes, repeal environmental law [restraints], bulldoze the I guess I’m a republican now.
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SlimGoodbody posted:Wow I'm going through the candidate statements in the voter info guide and... we sure have an above average amount of complete loonies running this time, huh? Also lmao at me reading Don J. Grundmann's schizopost entry to my wife and her response being "This guy sounds like evil Dr. Bronner." It actually seems a bit less crazies than usual? The real fun elections are recalls Dr. Don J Bronner definitely has the brain worms though. His campaign website has a long winded rant about how some shadowy elites are using The Matrix (yes, from the movie) to scam people via the Fed, the IRS, and for some reason, the assassination of RFK. This is one of his saner takes
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quote:Grundmann, who is a chiropractor based in the Bay Area, Somehow I knew this before I knew this.
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The Wiggly Wizard posted:Also what's the deal with Prop 1? Seems good from just skimming. Here's the bills that form the basis of the proposition: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240SB326 https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billNavClient.xhtml?bill_id=202320240AB531 Henrik Zetterberg posted:Did this thread already poo poo all over Gavin for making state employees report to <arbitrary location> 2 days a week for COLLABORATION yet?  https://calmatters.org/health/2024/01/california-health-minimum-wage-delay/ BeAuMaN fucked around with this message at 05:31 on Jan 28, 2024 |
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