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TaurusTorus posted:There's a lot of things in Dune that are obvious that everybody in the books treats as extremely creative never before thought of genius plans. There is a fantastic bit about this in Asterix in Britain. Ceasar's invasion of Britain grinds to a halt when the Brits just leave the battlefield because it's five o'clock, and refuse to fight for two days because it's Friday. The Roman forces just don't know how to deal with that. When reports of this reach Ceasar, it takes him a solid minute of grumbled calculation to come up with the brilliant plan of attacking after five o'clock and on weekends.
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Carthag Tuek posted:yea its a bit of a weak blackmail. its only his wife Given the neofeudal deal of Dune that also makes sense, and reminds me of how the og ninja manual in context is basically a grant application by broke war criminals. 'I will do whatever hosed up poo poo you want and am physically incapable of lying to you' is pretty famine-proof.
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muscles like this! posted:Once modern plumbing happened all vampires just starved to death because they could no longer live in cities.
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Carthag Tuek posted:no their paper sizes are in 16ths of a football field but its a japanese company, and a very slick one. they would have used A3 irl. What would they be using A3 for? A4 is muuuuuch more common than A3?
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Grendels Dad posted:There is a fantastic bit about this in Asterix in Britain. Ceasar's invasion of Britain grinds to a halt when the Brits just leave the battlefield because it's five o'clock, and refuse to fight for two days because it's Friday. The Roman forces just don't know how to deal with that. When reports of this reach Ceasar, it takes him a solid minute of grumbled calculation to come up with the brilliant plan of attacking after five o'clock and on weekends. I liked the animated Netflix movie Asterix and the Mansions of the Gods where Ceasar's plan was simple - Defeat Gaul by gentrifying it. He builds a luxury condo right outside the gaul village, the gauls get used to Roman trade and even start moving in and suddenly the village is helpless, because they can't just beat up the romans this time because they are Roman CIVILLIANS. That was clever. It had a cute running thing where Obelix becomes good friends with a roman child, and a fun twist where Asterix gives the slaves magic potion so they can escape their masters and they instead use the potion as a bargaining chip to secure better working conditions, and suddenly the mansions get built basically overnight because the slaves are super-powered now and happy to build it as they've been promised better pay and apartments for themselves.
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Roblo posted:What would they be using A3 for? A4 is muuuuuch more common than A3? A3 big Big good
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Roblo posted:What would they be using A3 for? A4 is muuuuuch more common than A3? A0 bitches, full poster sized
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TaurusTorus posted:There's a lot of things in Dune that are obvious that everybody in the books treats as extremely creative never before thought of genius plans. The Baron Harkonnen has a neat line about how Mentats are actually really easy to mislead, in spite of their reputation as super geniuses, because they're trained to be human logic machines, so all you have to do is feed them false data, and they will happily deduce false conclusions. I think the same applies to a lesser degree to most people in the Dune universe. Everyone is trained to think and act in accordance with various ancient schools and philosophies, which makes them highly effective within certain parameters, but completely blind to anything outside their training. The Baron's use of artillery is treated as mind-blowing because its use is simply not part of current battle doctrines.
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There's a similar thing in the end when Paul uses atomic bombs to blow a hole in the giant mountain range that protects the city and everybody is all "well, technically that didn't break the convention against using atomics in battle since he didn't target any people."
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Jedit posted:That's raising the interesting point that Fil5000's IMM is I because nobody pays full attention to the lore. And the lore itself isn't consistent from place to place anyway. Terry Pratchett highlighted this in Carpe Jugulum, where someone asks a vampire where they come from before digging into a big sack for the regionally appropriate repellent. I do genuinely love a character having a massive grabbag of religious iconography, just in case. See also: Beni in The Mummy.
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The shields in Dune are funny because if you fire a laser at them they cause nuclear fusion. The series expects us to believe that everyone changed battle tactics rather than pretty much every planet in the galaxy being a glass wasteland
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Fil5000 posted:The shields in Dune are funny because if you fire a laser at them they cause nuclear fusion. The series expects us to believe that everyone changed battle tactics rather than pretty much every planet in the galaxy being a glass wasteland The problem with the lasgun/shield interaction is that it is super inconsistent. The only guarantee is that the gun explodes and the shield is taken down but the size of the explosion is random.
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Fil5000 posted:The shields in Dune are funny because if you fire a laser at them they cause nuclear fusion. The series expects us to believe that everyone changed battle tactics rather than pretty much every planet in the galaxy being a glass wasteland Given that actual nukes get you locked out of interstellar transport, I'm pretty sure there are repercussions for purposefully using that strategy. It's even brought up in the books as a viable tactic though - things like a lasgun on a timer pointed at a shielded installation - but the effects are also random: it doesn't always go fully 'nuclear'. Sometimes it just annihilates the shooter, sometimes the target, sometimes both, sometimes everything within a radius.
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Fil5000 posted:I genuinely don't mind that noone pays attention to all the lore, it's literally just the smug "tch, why did you think a CROSS would stop me" writing that annoys me. I can't think of a single thing that uses all the lore, the old Hammer films are probably closest but most ignore stuff like counting grains of rice. I don't think "can't cross running water" comes up especially often either The original I Am Legend ran through the list of vampire weaknesses pretty thoroughly in its efforts to come up with pseudoscience explanations for all of them, although I can't remember if compulsive counting came up.
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DarkDobe posted:Given that actual nukes get you locked out of interstellar transport, I'm pretty sure there are repercussions for purposefully using that strategy. Still always left me wondering why the big tactic, given how tiny shield emitters and lasguns are, being just building bombs that were rows of lasguns on timers pointed at your own row of shields in a big droppable box. Cover for randomness with redundancy!
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Roblo posted:What would they be using A3 for? A4 is muuuuuch more common than A3? any serious office with european or asian management had a stack of A3 ready in the printer or copier, 1985 to 1995. one hundred percent of offices here and there. but yeah you have the ledger paper size so you keep working on that and overpay whatever even in a paperless office i print stuff sometimes. 3 times in 4 years, ive printed something. guess the paper size
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Bussamove posted:I do genuinely love a character having a massive grabbag of religious iconography, just in case. this was legit what made me love The Mummy as a kid, that very scene. I remember Salem's Lot where the head vampire admits holy symbols only work if you have faith in them. Which makes me want some modern vampire story where some gun-loving idiot has faith his gun will protect him, and the bullets actually kill the shocked vampire. "The bullets aren't even silver!" Between the 1985 Color Purple and Fried Green Tomatoes, and I am sure there are more movies, seems to be a theme of erasing lesbian couples and now they are "just friends."
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Cowslips Warren posted:this was legit what made me love The Mummy as a kid, that very scene. I remember Salem's Lot where the head vampire admits holy symbols only work if you have faith in them. Which makes me want some modern vampire story where some gun-loving idiot has faith his gun will protect him, and the bullets actually kill the shocked vampire. I feel there is potential here for an over the top action horror with a Sikh protagonist and his use of the five Ks to fight vampires.
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BioEnchanted posted:I liked the animated Netflix movie Asterix and the Mansions of the Gods where Ceasar's plan was simple - Defeat Gaul by gentrifying it. He builds a luxury condo right outside the gaul village, the gauls get used to Roman trade and even start moving in and suddenly the village is helpless, because they can't just beat up the romans this time because they are Roman CIVILLIANS. That was clever. It had a cute running thing where Obelix becomes good friends with a roman child, and a fun twist where Asterix gives the slaves magic potion so they can escape their masters and they instead use the potion as a bargaining chip to secure better working conditions, and suddenly the mansions get built basically overnight because the slaves are super-powered now and happy to build it as they've been promised better pay and apartments for themselves. I'm not sure how closely that might have adapted the comics, but wouldn't surprise me. Obelix and Co. is a great one that's legit used to teach economic principles, and better than half of economics classes since it actually tracks to material realities. A similar scheme where one of Caesar's ministers proposes to defeat the holdout village by economically enmeshing it with the empire, pointing to how Caesar's one-fierce generals are now rich, fat and useless, but the only major export the place really has is menhirs. So the Roman government buys them up to create demand, and it seems to work for a while, worrying the three more or less sensible Gauls. Asterix hatches a plan to foil it by... doing nothing. Closest thing he does he actually encourage Getafix to give magic potion to the other Gauls that get into selling menhirs to boost their productivity, because he knows that the demand is artificial and menhirs aren't really particularly useful for much, so Caesar's emptying his coffers to no real gain- and when they do stoke demand by marketing menhirs as status symbols so Romans will buy them of their own accord, Romans and other countries begin producing their own menhirs, and even call for boycotts of Gaulish menhirs and embargos on them. It all ends up with a crash of the market, and Obelix has gotten tired of the high rolling merchant life and wants to go back to normal, while Caesar now just has a massive hole in the empire's budget and another idiot to feed to the lions. Probably one of the things that makes the comics fun is that Caesar is often comical but he's not stupid, and while the holdout village is an embarrassment he'd like to correct, he still has an empire to run and lots of other things to do. Which is why there's the frequent wacky schemes to take it over- since raw military force doesn't work, he's willing to entertain anything else that'd solve the problem, though you'd better drat deliver results one way or another. theironjef posted:Still always left me wondering why the big tactic, given how tiny shield emitters and lasguns are, being just building bombs that were rows of lasguns on timers pointed at your own row of shields in a big droppable box. Cover for randomness with redundancy! The Fremen are known to make some use of lasguns on timers (or suicide bombers) to take advantage of that, but it seems to be considered very much a desperation tactic, especially since the Fremen are used to being sparing with resources, especially technology that's not easy to replace. It comes up later on that Paul has to be very insistent to convince them to start leaving materiel behind towards the end of the war, since if they win they'll have far more than they know what to do with anyway. He also admits that nuking the shield wall is a letter-of-the-law thing at best, but he can get away with it since he's fighting for control over the most important planet in the universe, and again, if he wins, he makes the rules, and if he loses he dies.
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Elissimpark posted:I feel there is potential here for an over the top action horror with a Sikh protagonist and his use of the five Ks to fight vampires. Honestly would love this.
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muscles like this! posted:This is more of a book complaint but it has always kind of bugged me in Dune how Dr Yueh's betrayal is supposed to blindside everyone because he has Imperial Suk conditioning which is considered unbreakable. Except the Baron is able to defeat it through the nefarious and circuitous plan of "telling Yueh that he is holding Yueh's wife hostage and will return her if he betrays Leto." IIRC is only works because Yueh's wife is a bene-gesserit and she's used her science-witchcraft to make him extra super in-love with her.
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Cowslips Warren posted:I remember Salem's Lot where the head vampire admits holy symbols only work if you have faith in them. It was basically the complete opposite. When the priest starts to trust in the cross itself, rather than in God, the cross stops working.
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Look, if you knowingly marry a sex ninja, you gotta take the mind bending crazy ninja sex magic with the bad. It's just how relationships work. I think it was dracula 2000 that had the *throws bag of rice* "13965." *shocked pikachu* thing happen most recently.
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Ghost Leviathan posted:Probably one of the things that makes the comics fun is that Caesar is often comical but he's not stupid, and while the holdout village is an embarrassment he'd like to correct, he still has an empire to run and lots of other things to do. Which is why there's the frequent wacky schemes to take it over- since raw military force doesn't work, he's willing to entertain anything else that'd solve the problem, though you'd better drat deliver results one way or another. I always liked the implication that while the village is an embarrassment to Caesar, it doesn't make that much of a difference in the grand scheme of things. Caesar still defeated Vercingetorix and took the rest of Gaul; they didn't stop him there. There are are couple of references to the idea that the Gauls might genuinely not be able to take the entire Roman army, but the Roman army has better things to. There is even a comic where Brutus burns down the Gaul village with fire catapults, to which they have no defense, only for Caesar to show up at the end and help them rebuild it because he doesn't want to win like that!
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Another instance of subtitles being hosed: Fear the Walking Dead on amazon prime doesn't subtitle the Spanish speaking bits when you've got the subs on english [cc]. These are official subs on a major streaming service lmao
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This is kinda irrational, but if there is nothing in the scene going on but eating, I'm fast forwarding that poo poo. I can't stand the sounds of people eating. It's especially bad if the scene is meant to show off how good the food is by just showing everyone shoving dead things into their gross mouths and nom narm nomsh nromrsmrnsrnnggmg oh hmmmm nomnomnom thats so good nnmonomnomnonomomon oh oh oh nomonnm
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credburn posted:This is kinda irrational, but if there is nothing in the scene going on but eating, I'm fast forwarding that poo poo. I can't stand the sounds of people eating. It's especially bad if the scene is meant to show off how good the food is by just showing everyone shoving dead things into their gross mouths and nom narm nomsh nromrsmrnsrnnggmg oh hmmmm nomnomnom thats so good nnmonomnomnonomomon oh oh oh nomonnm Can we combine this with Subtitle Chat and Walking Dead chat so when a character gets devoured alive by zombies with accompanying ghastly noises the subtitles show the zombies excitedly discussing how delicious this guy is
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Look, if you knowingly marry a sex ninja, you gotta take the mind bending crazy ninja sex magic with the bad. It's just how relationships work. Apparently it's the sequel, Dracula II: the Ascension, that has it. Can't find a clip though, because it sounds awesome/poo poo.
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SimonChris posted:. There is even a comic where Brutus burns down the Gaul village with fire catapults, to which they have no defense, only for Caesar to show up at the end and help them rebuild it because he doesn't want to win like that! Meanwhile the historical Caesar burned down several Gaul villages and even bragged about how he was so brutal that after the battle of Avaricum he let his legionnaires run rampant and that only 800 of a population of 40 000 survived.
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Taeke posted:Another instance of subtitles being hosed: Fear the Walking Dead on amazon prime doesn't subtitle the Spanish speaking bits when you've got the subs on english [cc]. These are official subs on a major streaming service lmao There was a lengthy (Cuban) Spanish back-and-forth in the fifth season of Boardwalk Empire that made me realize there were no subtitles because the closed captions assumed those would be there in the show themselves. Those closed captions must have been originally created with a different version of the show than the one I was watching on HBO Max. Which made me wonder how many segments there must have been in previous seasons where the non-English speech (mostly Italian) was not translated and it had NOT been a stylistic choice. This is in addendum to a couple episodes in the second seasons where the closed captions were so horrible that I assumed they were created by AI and then edited without effort. Like sentences where the subs make absolutely no sense in any of the context provided by the roles and setting. I actually switched to the subtitles in my native tongue for a while after that, because while the translation could only keep up with 2/3 of what was being said they at least had some quality control in effect. Mierenneuker has a new favorite as of 12:13 on Jan 28, 2024 |
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Alhazred posted:Meanwhile the historical Caesar burned down several Gaul villages and even bragged about how he was so brutal that after the battle of Avaricum he let his legionnaires run rampant and that only 800 of a population of 40 000 survived. It is kind of a point in one comic that Caesar crushed the Gauls so brutally that it's left pretty heavy mental scars on the older generations, Vitalstatistix is occasionally implied to have PTSD. Then one where Caesar rebuilt the village has a lot more shenanigans involved. (Asterix & Son, I think)
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Alhazred posted:Meanwhile the historical Caesar burned down several Gaul villages and even bragged about how he was so brutal that after the battle of Avaricum he let his legionnaires run rampant and that only 800 of a population of 40 000 survived. Wow, didn't know this context. I was a big fan of his salads, but unfollowing now!
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darkwasthenight posted:Wow, didn't know this context. I was a big fan of his salads, but unfollowing now! It's ok, he got comprehensively cancelled, I think it was some time in March.
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darkwasthenight posted:Wow, didn't know this context. I was a big fan of his salads, but unfollowing now! lmao
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Alhazred posted:Meanwhile the historical Caesar burned down several Gaul villages and even bragged about how he was so brutal that after the battle of Avaricum he let his legionnaires run rampant and that only 800 of a population of 40 000 survived. I'd guess that's where the word "avarice" comes from.
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darkwasthenight posted:Wow, didn't know this context. I was a big fan of his salads, but unfollowing now! Get this: he also killed his wife with a lemon squeezer!
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Look, if you knowingly marry a sex ninja, you gotta take the mind bending crazy ninja sex magic with the bad. It's just how relationships work. Dracula 2000 is one of my guilty pleasures! This doesn't happen in it, though. e: beaten! 10 Beers has a new favorite as of 14:00 on Jan 28, 2024 |
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I haven't seen it in forever. I do own the bigass Bible they used in the library scene though. Gerard Butler got to chew scenery and got a paycheck for it. Can't beat that. One of my favorite vampire moments where they gotta count. https://youtu.be/OsZjYCW8VF4 Stupid_Sexy_Flander has a new favorite as of 13:53 on Jan 28, 2024 |
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Ghost Leviathan posted:It is kind of a point in one comic that Caesar crushed the Gauls so brutally that it's left pretty heavy mental scars on the older generations, Vitalstatistix is occasionally implied to have PTSD. Then one where Caesar rebuilt the village has a lot more shenanigans involved. (Asterix & Son, I think) Yeah, Caesar rebuilds the village in that one because the baby is actually his son Caesarion, who had been sent to the village in secret for protection. Caesar may be embarrassed by his failure to conquer the last holdout village, but at the same time the Gauls have done something that benefits him on several occasions and when they do he's always granted them a favour in return.
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