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Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

sebzilla posted:


What a stupid loving party lol, I'm really looking forward to not voting for them

Yeah, it's absolutely poo poo. Just snivelling cowardice and bad faith. Never voting for them again.

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NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
I've been thinking about trying to find common ground on the ai art thing as we've established you can't entirely cream the genie back in his box. What about if we made it so the ai had to physically produce the artwork? Like it had to use those old primary school turtles with paint brushes shoved up them? Or just leave it up to it to highjack whatever means of physical production it could find I guess and get creative (which I believe it capable of) as to what that might be.

That removes the worry about things happening too quickly and proliferating. I mean in theory the ai can still paint faster than a human. I think there's a scene in short circuit where Johnny 5 does this. But also the ai never sleeps. But it does level the playing field a little.

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-
Generative AI dislikers can take heart in the fact that the current technology is a dead end. To badly approximate one thing that humans can do - forming coherent sentences - requires the cutting edge models to "read" an appreciable portion of the entire English language corpus. Humans can learn to do the same task, alongside a thousand others, from a tiny fraction of the examples. You can make similar arguments based on the power consumption and processing requirements of training these systems compared to the kilo of meat running on 20W that humans use, but I think the difference in learning methods - absorbing the entire Internet vs following along the Ladybird Read It Yourself series - is the strongest evidence that the current approach is doomed.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

NotJustANumber99 posted:

cream the genie back in his box

Cram the genie, cram

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
Genie: you may have one wish

Me: I want to cream your box

Genie: :catstare:

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
This is the future that AI people want.

Nuclear Spoon
Aug 18, 2010

I want to cry out
but I don’t scream and I don’t shout
And I feel so proud
to be alive
Large Lactation Model

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

I'm more worried about those poor turtles.

smellmycheese
Feb 1, 2016

Lady Demelza
Dec 29, 2009



Lipstick Apathy

This is the kind of thing my terminally ill mother is doing. It's an act of miserable desperation, not an admirable quality.

Doctor_Fruitbat
Jun 2, 2013


You make it a legal requirement for anything fed into an AI to have permission and attribution, that's literally all we need right at this exact moment. Anyone feeding their own work in is covered, people can easily contribute their own work to a specific AI, and the general use models that scraped the entire internet then started poisoning everything with garbage immediately die.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/disposable-vapes-banned-to-protect-childrens-health

Posting from the future :toot:

quote:

Press release
Disposable vapes banned to protect children's health

Disposable vapes will be banned in the UK as part of ambitious government plans to tackle the rise in youth vaping and protect children’s health.

Disposable vapes will be banned in the UK as part of ambitious government plans to tackle the rise in youth vaping and protect children’s health, the Prime Minister has announced today [Monday 29 January] on a visit to a school.

Aipsh
Feb 17, 2006


GLUPP SHITTO FAN CLUB PRESIDENT

When though? I mean cool, kid’s health and stuff and whatever but I seriously need those stupid vapes taken away from me

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

models that scraped the entire internet

so like just shut your eyes whilst your on the internet?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I thought they already banned them last year?

MeinPanzer
Dec 20, 2004
anyone who reads Cinema Discusso for anything more than slackjawed trolling will see the shittiness in my posts

sebzilla posted:

https://twitter.com/johnestevens/status/1751672931103408461?s=20

What a stupid loving party lol, I'm really looking forward to not voting for them

Saw a similar commercial for this Holocaust Memorial Day before a movie today and noted that at the end it listed several other genocides commemorated, with one notable contemporary example omitted… it seems she deliberately included it in her retweet, and so has been punished? Also really bothers me how this holiday only explicitly mentions the Jews killed, as if the millions of other victims don’t count.

I hate that in this current political climate it feels as if you have to be skeptical of every invocation of the Holocaust, because a hell of a lot of them are made in bad faith.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

MeinPanzer posted:

this holiday

eh?

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.
I've never smoked so I don't have the compulsion to puff away on a vape but someone introduced me to nicotine pouches a couple years back and gently caress me I am absolutely addicted to Velos.

Not sure how harmful nicotine by itself is. I know cigs are bad for obvious reasons and vapes are also (less) bad because popcorn lung but the purely synthetic zero tobacco oral stuff? No idea. Mouth cancer risk maybe? Cardiovascular effects? I have no clue and the internet seems unsure too, which makes sense given how recently they've appeared and the lack of data. They're sure morish though which I assume means they can't be great for you.

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
I figure if I make it to my 80s I might as well take up cigar smoking because I'll not exactly be dying young at that point.

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010
The pouches can give you the ol’ mouth and throat cancer if I remember right. They’re nice like

Thought 8 pints deep on a Saturday evening nothings better than sucking down a Marlboro red

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
cigarettes are horrid

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
I'd have the odd cheeky cig when I was being cool and drunk in my 20s, now the idea makes me feel mouth-sick. Gross habit and you should feel bad about it imo

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro



Even in a smallish village there is so much disposable vape related litter lying about. What's the theoretical advantage of them rather than a more long-term device you top up with weirdly flavoured liquid?

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Failed Imagineer posted:

I'd have the odd cheeky cig when I was being cool and drunk in my 20s, now the idea makes me feel mouth-sick. Gross habit and you should feel bad about it imo

Having never been cool I always thought it was gross :smuggo:

Do always feel a bit sad for the folk in a nearby council house who you see huddled on the front step in gales and snow and rain because apparently you're just not allowed to smoke in council houses anymore. Like, i get it, my folks had to paint the living room walls every few years as they'd get discoloured from smoking but it does seem cruel folk can't smoke in their home anymore

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting

forkboy84 posted:

Do always feel a bit sad for the folk in a nearby council house who you see huddled on the front step in gales and snow and rain because apparently you're just not allowed to smoke in council houses anymore.

I don't see how that can be true.

Dabir
Nov 10, 2012

forkboy84 posted:

Having never been cool I always thought it was gross :smuggo:

Do always feel a bit sad for the folk in a nearby council house who you see huddled on the front step in gales and snow and rain because apparently you're just not allowed to smoke in council houses anymore. Like, i get it, my folks had to paint the living room walls every few years as they'd get discoloured from smoking but it does seem cruel folk can't smoke in their home anymore

I'm sorry for them for their addiction to nicotine personally

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

NotJustANumber99 posted:

I don't see how that can be true.

It isn't, though they've been talking about banning smoking in council properties for a few years now.

There's a good chance the house forkoy notices is an ex-council property that's being let out by a private landlord, and many of those parasites do ban smoking inside.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Failed Imagineer posted:

I'd have the odd cheeky cig when I was being cool and drunk in my 20s, now the idea makes me feel mouth-sick. Gross habit and you should feel bad about it imo

Be careful of cheeky smokes!
In my twenties I probably puffed on about 10 cigs in 10 years. My non-smoker boyfriend and I used to buy a packet of 10, try and smoke (to look 'cool' I guess), didn't inhale, had a coughing fit every time. So that is the sum total of my smoking. Went to get holiday travel insurance about 3 years ago using a "specialist" given my ongoing leg problem, quizzed about all the various smoking, drinking etc so told the guy exactly what I just wrote here. Given that I am now in my 60s, and haven't even attempted to smoke since my 20s and barely did then, they have me down as an "ex-smoker". I mean, yes, technically, but makes my premium bigger. So just a bit of an experiment in my 20s affects me financially in my 60s.
"Everyone" says "why did you bother telling them?" Well because insurance cos will do anything to wriggle out of paying so I don't want them not paying out a claim for 2 weeks in hospital with a broken leg on the basis that 40 years ago I half-smoked 10 cigs.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

That does seem like the sort of thing you should just lie about as I don't imagine the insurance companies have deep cover agents taking incriminating photos of you 40 years ago smoking.

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
i tell my insurance companies I've always been a non smoker but remind them so was roy castle and look what happened to him and insist on paying slightly higher bills.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

The Marsh Family just parodied 'Starman' to rip into Keith

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9ReQ4Nd-JI

:allears:

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


fuctifino posted:

It isn't, though they've been talking about banning smoking in council properties for a few years now.

There's a good chance the house forkoy notices is an ex-council property that's being let out by a private landlord, and many of those parasites do ban smoking inside.

You might be right, although apparently the landlord is fine with the garden being used as a dumping ground but no smoking inside? Seems odd. Slightly less grim if it's a private landlord, except I just get mad at the fact they arex-council houses.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018

OwlFancier posted:

That does seem like the sort of thing you should just lie about as I don't imagine the insurance companies have deep cover agents taking incriminating photos of you 40 years ago smoking.

Lol yeah, always lie about poo poo they can't check.

There are no photos of me smoking in existence

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



My Granny smoked pretty much her whole life, she lived to be 86, qed smoking is probably slightly good for you but certainly does no harm :v:

killerwhat
May 13, 2010

Lady Demelza posted:

This is the kind of thing my terminally ill mother is doing. It's an act of miserable desperation, not an admirable quality.

A friend of mine is currently on day 16 of fasting. Apparently it has amazing health benefits for them, reduced fibro/chronic fatigue symptoms, reduced asthma and allergies :shrug: Kinda makes sense given how important the gut and digestion is to body regulation. Don’t think it would work for me!

NotJustANumber99
Feb 15, 2012

somehow that last av was even worse than your posting
They haven't eaten for 16 days?

Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

fuctifino posted:

The Marsh Family just parodied 'Starman' to rip into Keith

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E9ReQ4Nd-JI

:allears:

If anyone has a burning desire to transcribe this do feel free to post it here. I’d like to know the words but don’t want to listen to it any more than I want to stop smoking

Edgar Allen Ho
Apr 3, 2017

by sebmojo
My mom (not mum sorry) has finally completed her threats of marrying an old tory and moving to a resort town in Devon. It has turned her into a raging rear end in a top hat almost overnight.

Can any of y'all confirm if this is normal?

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

The lyrics are in the description.

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

My mom (not mum sorry) has finally completed her threats of marrying an old tory and moving to a resort town in Devon. It has turned her into a raging rear end in a top hat almost overnight.

Can any of y'all confirm if this is normal?

I would suggest that marrying an old tory is an indicator of already being a raging arsehole but it probably also exacerbates the condition.

No idea about devon specifically.

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Jakabite
Jul 31, 2010

Edgar Allen Ho posted:

My mom (not mum sorry) has finally completed her threats of marrying an old tory and moving to a resort town in Devon. It has turned her into a raging rear end in a top hat almost overnight.

Can any of y'all confirm if this is normal?

Yeah I’ve seen perfectly nice people who don’t really care about politics get with tories who do and very rapidly become awful little hitlers. They usually end up worse than the person that influenced them I’m sorry to say. Good luck with your mum and her arsehole hubby

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