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PostNouveau posted:Detroit would have won if they'd attemped the FGs That’s not trolling that’s just the truth
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Are there any postgame interviews with Lions DB CGJ available to watch?
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Jan 29, 2024 19:18
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Badgely's numbers from 40+ out aren't great, if you go for the FG and he misses then everyone's howling about Dan Campbell turning into a cuck or whatever for not taking a shot. Hindsight remains 20/20.
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Jan 29, 2024 19:34
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The Lions suddenly dropping wide open passes and that fumble are what did them in.
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Jan 29, 2024 19:37
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:The Lions suddenly dropping wide open passes and that fumble are what did them in. yep
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PostNouveau posted:Detroit would have won if they'd attemped the FGs most rational thing that happened in that game
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And then if their mid kicker who never kicks outside had missed? https://twitter.com/ChrisVannini/status/1751816608526324219 https://twitter.com/JADubin5/status/1751815428660228135 Lions kicking game is a problem that has was solved by them being good at converting. They just didn't execute. Dexo fucked around with this message at 19:42 on Jan 29, 2024 |
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Jan 29, 2024 19:39
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PostNouveau posted:Detroit would have won if they'd attemped the FGs You deserve another year of Dennis Allen.
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really queer Christmas posted:You deserve another year of Dennis Allen. They are gonna win the same amount of super bowls when it’s all said and done
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really queer Christmas posted:You deserve another year of Dennis Allen. Now, now, let's not say things we can't take back
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Jan 29, 2024 19:46
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Lions just lost on bad bounces of the ball, including those failed 4th down conversions. It happens and it really sucks when it happens in the playoffs. New Topic. https://twitter.com/BaldyNFL/status/1751964647933022320?t=Hywy99S3dErBzDjC0UN0Aw&s=19 Bateman fails to understand the basics of NFL spacing and the Ravens punt because of it. The guy is so talented but he just cannot get the details right. This is his 3rd season with Lamar, they should be 100% mind meld at this point. I was so happy when the Ravens got him and he's been such a disappointment. Is there a Rashod Bateman but competent and not injury prone somewhere in the draft?
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Jan 29, 2024 19:49
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Lions just lost on bad bounces of the ball, including those failed 4th down conversions. It happens and it really sucks when it happens in the playoffs. i posted this somewhere last night (probably this thread!) while drunk but i'd wouldn't be mad on an all-in trade to go up and grab marvin harrison, even though that'd cost a loving fortune and OL is a much more crucial demand right now. i'm dumb, and this would definitely backfire, but gently caress it. go for it.
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Jan 29, 2024 19:53
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also bateman's spacing was usually his one positive trait. dude got great separation per route run over the course of the year (if advanced statistics are to be believed)
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Jan 29, 2024 19:54
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when I think of that game, this is etched into my mind forever
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I would be for that as well. It definitely wouldn't make the team better next year than some boring lineman picks but it might connect Lamar with a top target for 10 years. And for however much worse they'd be Andrews, Flowers, Likely, and Harrison would be crazy loving fun.
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Outside of a couple of unlucky bounces, Lions just got plain out-executed in that second half. I don't think there's an easy scapegoat for the collapse, for better or worse. No Goof, no officiating fuckery, just couldn't live up to the moment. Sucks.
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Borsche69 posted:also bateman's spacing was usually his one positive trait. dude got great separation per route run over the course of the year (if advanced statistics are to be believed) His separation is good. His understanding of how to play best within the offense is not. Lamar is known for his buying time and I've seen Bateman get open for a brief window then slow up a ton of times this year. Totally takes himself out of the play. That includes a few deep passes that would have been on target if he ran his whole route with purpose. Add in the drops and the few INTs in his career where he hasn't fought for the ball. It amounts to a ton of wasted potential. The recurring injuries, especially his rookie year, make things very hard for a young player. Still, he's been a disappointment.
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C-Euro posted:Outside of a couple of unlucky bounces, Lions just got plain out-executed in that second half. I don't think there's an easy scapegoat for the collapse, for better or worse. No Goof, no officiating fuckery, just couldn't live up to the moment. Sucks. The 2 failed fourth down conversions led to 14 unanswered points, which is the easy answer you're looking for.
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In all the excitement I forgot that with the win last night, Niners did end up beating every single NFC playoff team this season. 2: Cowboys 42-10 3: Lions 34-31 4: Bucs 27-14 5: Eagles 42-19 6: Rams 30-23 7: Packers 24-21
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The Puppy Bowl posted:His separation is good. His understanding of how to play best within the offense is not. Lamar is known for his buying time and I've seen Bateman get open for a brief window then slow up a ton of times this year. Totally takes himself out of the play. That includes a few deep passes that would have been on target if he ran his whole route with purpose. Add in the drops and the few INTs in his career where he hasn't fought for the ball. It amounts to a ton of wasted potential. nah that's all fair, i meant to word my post more in agreement because he runs real crisp routes and gets great separation and then weirdly "gives up" (probably an overly harsh assessment but its what it feels like) on the play.
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ShaneMacGowansTeeth posted:when I think of that game, this is etched into my mind forever "The ball’s an oblong shape. You can come up with the perfect game plan every time, but once that ball hits the ground, you can’t tell what will happen. You gotta live with the bounce. You can’t worry over what you can’t control”
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Trading from 28th to 4th or whatever to get Harrison would probably cost the Ravens their entire 2024 draft + future first rounders. Just a fyi in case you are being serious instead of just saying poo poo
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D-LINK posted:The 2 failed fourth down conversions led to 14 unanswered points, which is the easy answer you're looking for. Execution, yeah. Glad you agree with me.
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I feel like with the lions game the fact people like Campbell is deeply influencing how they look at that game that after a fairly good first half he coached fairly badly in the second
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Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:The Lions suddenly dropping wide open passes and that fumble are what did them in. I thought the fumble was really what killed the Lions much more than the freaky bounce off the defender completion. After the freak pass and Niners scoring a TD, you are still up a solid TD with well over a quarter to go and you have been playing better football than the opponent most of the game, and have been advancing and scoring the ball with the run. All you need is a few offensive plays to settle down. Then on the very first one you cough up the ball and give the opponent a short field. A few plays later your 3 score lead is gone, the swagger you had is gone and the opponent is now playing with swagger. The last TD was not from a crazy bounce, it is stuff you did to yourself from being shook. You are no longer contending just with the football gods dealing you a lovely bounce of the ball, but your are now also contending with your own shookness. The dropped passes and misplayed punt are just a manifestation of that shookness. Momentum in sports is very real and it is not because of some supernatural gremlin poo poo, although that accounts for the face mask bounce, it is real because of your swagger becoming shookness and your opponent’s shookness turning into swagger. It is easier to climb out of that abyss with great defensive plays because defense is less often about catching balls and not fumbling. The Lions getting two sacks in a row to force a FG instead of being down a TD was their last gasp, but it was mostly over by then. Having said all that the Lions seem like they are in a much better position to overcome this bitter loss with so many of their top skill players being essentially rookies. Nothing is guaranteed and sure they could somehow regress to mediocrity, have critical injuries etc. but they are well situated to continue to win and even improve going forward. They are fun as hell to watch and I hope they continue to kick rear end.
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:Trading from 28th to 4th or whatever to get Harrison would probably cost the Ravens their entire 2024 draft + future first rounders. Just a fyi in case you are being serious instead of just saying poo poo Julio Jones trade was the 1st, 2nd, and 4th round picks plus the next year's 1st and 4th. I think I would do that deal for Harrison. Not saying it's smart, but I'd do it and have a lot of fun doing it.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Julio Jones trade was the 1st, 2nd, and 4th round picks plus the next year's 1st and 4th. I think I would do that deal for Harrison. Not saying it's smart, but I'd do it and have a lot of fun doing it. You have to have a partner in the top 4 picks willing to do that though, which of those 4 teams is willing to go down to 28th for that?
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https://x.com/LedyardNFLDraft/status/1752026992415834454?s=20 Chris Jones is gonna make another team real happy next season 
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CharlestheHammer posted:I feel like with the lions game the fact people like Campbell is deeply influencing how they look at that game that after a fairly good first half he coached fairly badly in the second I'm not a huge Campbell fan. I think Lions fans are being oddly optimistic that they can just replace Ben Johnson when he takes that Commie job. But I think he was fine in that game, the high level decision making I think was fine, outside of the run attempt at the end of the game. It does feel like his players wilted once things started crumbling. Which is somewhat on him, but man also there was some of the flukiest Eli Manning rear end poo poo I've ever seen that occurred in that game where I just can't get too down on the coach. If Players catch a pass, or don't fumble that game is not in doubt. Dan Campbell didn't have a great coaching performance, but I don't think he should shoulder the blame for the L.
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Pron on VHS posted:https://x.com/LedyardNFLDraft/status/1752026992415834454?s=20 The Niners' o-line makes every single d-lineman look like this, please don't hurt Mr. Irrelevant
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Kalli posted:You have to have a partner in the top 4 picks willing to do that though, which of those 4 teams is willing to go down to 28th for that? I could see any of 3 through 8 making that trade depending on how the board falls. Patriots, Cardinals, Chargers, Giants and Texans all need a lot more than one non-QB to turn things around.
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Kalli posted:You have to have a partner in the top 4 picks willing to do that though, which of those 4 teams is willing to go down to 28th for that? It would fast-forward the Pats rebuild on offense to have that many picks.
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Pron on VHS posted:https://x.com/LedyardNFLDraft/status/1752026992415834454?s=20 Every time I mentally prepare myself to let him go, I see a play like this and want Veach to reach for the chequebook. The salary cap is a bitch.
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Kalli posted:You have to have a partner in the top 4 picks willing to do that though, which of those 4 teams is willing to go down to 28th for that? That's the thing for me. If I thought I had a surefire star which MH Jr is supposed to be, I wouldn't be trading anything for him except for maybe something that involves and already established star. No amount of late first round draft picks in future years is going to make me give up a shot at MH Jr. You'd have to trade me one of your best players along with those draft picks.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:I could see any of 3 through 8 making that trade depending on how the board falls. Patriots, Cardinals, Chargers, Giants and Texans all need a lot more than one non-QB to turn things around. By all reports the Cardinals are laser focused on MHJr, so I would very much expect him to not fall past 4. Impossibly Perfect Sphere posted:It would fast-forward the Pats rebuild on offense to have that many picks. Weren't you just complaining the other day about the Pats not bringing anyone new in to run things? You think handing this crew the the 28th, 60th, a pick likely to be in the mid 20's next year and a pair of 4th's is going to result in anything but <waves hands at the last decade of offensive draft picks>?
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Hey, maybe you tag and trade Justin Madibuke. Can't really afford him anyway, then get Harrison cost controlled for 5 years.Kalli posted:By all reports the Cardinals are laser focused on MHJr, so I would very much expect him to not fall past 4. You're probably right but there are months to go yet and the top ten picks usually have a few surprises.
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The Puppy Bowl posted:Hey, maybe you tag and trade Justin Madibuke. Can't really afford him anyway, then get Harrison cost controlled for 5 years. I was thinking that too with madubuike but I still don't think a contract-year first time (second team)all-pro is a good enough draw for me to give up a shot at a supposed megastar receiver on a rookie contract I do think tagging and trading madubuike is definitely something we should look into though, even though I'd hate to lose him.
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I wanted the Lions to win but if they're going to lose, at least Gardner-Johnson embarrassed the poo poo out of himself.
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:Trading from 28th to 4th or whatever to get Harrison would probably cost the Ravens their entire 2024 draft + future first rounders. Just a fyi in case you are being serious instead of just saying poo poo oh yeah i know. im serious in that i'd be cool with it, but im just saying poo poo cause i know that the ravens wont move that kinda capital to begin with and then even finding someone to accept the deal afterwards is difficult. in conclusion i am serious and i'm sayin poo poo
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The Lions takes today across the web seem to be split down the middle between "Dan Campbell hosed up by going for it on 4th down when he should have kicked a FG" and "Dan Campbell hosed up by kicking a FG when he should have gone for it on 4th down".
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