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yes tell every UPS driver you know to never take a promotion out of the bargaining unit
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Jan 30, 2024 15:48
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Capitalism.
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Jan 30, 2024 15:51
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C-Bangin' it 
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WrasslorMonkey posted:https://twitter.com/WSJbusiness/status/1752335415988691159 What a Savings
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Jan 30, 2024 15:52
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ups workers just signed a new contract last year lol
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Jan 30, 2024 15:53
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WrasslorMonkey posted:https://twitter.com/WSJbusiness/status/1752335415988691159
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Jan 30, 2024 15:53
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RealityWarCriminal posted:ups workers just signed a new contract last year lol Looks like it wasn't sustainable!
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Jan 30, 2024 15:54
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oh it's mostly management. nothing of value was lost 12,000 out of 85,000 managers 
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Jan 30, 2024 15:55
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Mr Hootington posted:Housing will go up when rates start being cut. We saw a bit of a preview when mortgage rates started going down again causing shelter to jump again. Its going to explode. I was at a house showing recently that had 70-80 potential buyers looking at it lol. Once rates drop that monthly payment gets easier for a lot more people too. There is also like zero new construction in my area which I don't understand. Houses are like twice the price now versus back in 2020 yet no one is building.
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Jan 30, 2024 15:58
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RealityWarCriminal posted:oh it's mostly management. nothing of value was lost hell yeah lmao
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Jan 30, 2024 15:58
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RealityWarCriminal posted:oh it's mostly management. nothing of value was lost please refer to my previous post about UPS putting as many people on their "management track" as possible
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Jan 30, 2024 16:19
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they are still managers even if they are duped into it. not sure what your point is.
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Jan 30, 2024 16:20
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oh absolutely, I'm just saying this is specifically their release valve for these type of economic situations. this would be your "clueless" section of the corporate pyramid. my point was only that I had just posted about this but it got buried at the bottom of the previous page Pepe Silvia Browne has issued a correction as of 16:44 on Jan 30, 2024 |
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Jan 30, 2024 16:22
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Pepe Silvia Browne posted:please refer to my previous post about UPS putting as many people on their "management track" as possible lol I had a real dumbass come into a company I worked at as a manager who came from UPS management and used to tell everyone about how he was management at UPS, glad my initial impression of him was correct
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Jan 30, 2024 16:25
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in response to Covid my previous employer did a pay freeze for 3 years and finally capitulated and gave us all a 2% pay raise in 2023 when people started leaving. it of course made us leave faster. My wife had just hit tenure which came with a 10% pay raise but the uni worrying about all the lost profits of not getting to force freshmen to stay in a closet for 1k a month in their dorm monopoly immediately slashed salaries across campus by 10%. I dunno where the idea of rising wages came from but in my sample size of 2 it didn’t happen.
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Jan 30, 2024 16:26
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:lol I had a real dumbass come into a company I worked at as a manager who came from UPS management and used to tell everyone about how he was management at UPS, glad my initial impression of him was correct yeah it's the equivalent of making officer in the IDF, if you have a pulse and stick around past the 90 day mark they will offer to make you an assistant manager to get you out of the union.
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Jan 30, 2024 16:26
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Monkey Fracas posted:What a Savings Sounds like...excess savings. 
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Jan 30, 2024 16:27
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PoundSand posted:I dunno where the idea of rising wages came from but in my sample size of 2 it didn’t happen. The sons and daughters of America's car dealership owners and Burger King franchisees saw massive hiring in the tech sinecure sector in 2020-2021 and that dragged the averages up and created a narrative My wife has an actual useful job and she's basically lost pay against inflation
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Jan 30, 2024 16:30
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PoundSand posted:in response to Covid my previous employer did a pay freeze for 3 years and finally capitulated and gave us all a 2% pay raise in 2023 when people started leaving. it of course made us leave faster. even if it doesn't go up at all, or even if it goes down, it's still going up "too much" because capital demands serfdom
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Jan 30, 2024 16:32
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https://twitter.com/ARLnowDOTcom/status/1752354451581526328
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Jan 30, 2024 16:35
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euphronius posted:they are still managers even if they are duped into it. not sure what your point is. I think the point is that people who aren't practically managers are still put into the manager job title regardless because it excludes them from a bunch of labor rights that would be pretty useful if you were otherwise still rank-and-file
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Jan 30, 2024 16:35
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PoundSand posted:in response to Covid my previous employer did a pay freeze for 3 years and finally capitulated and gave us all a 2% pay raise in 2023 when people started leaving. it of course made us leave faster. tori's wages (and mine) went up. that cancels you out
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Jan 30, 2024 16:35
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Another bog standard 5-over-1 just opened here, hopefully it'll help alleviate our housing crisis. Wonder how the pricing looks! https://www.post-gazette.com/busine...es/202401300040 quote:One-bedroom units start at $2,364 for 726 square feet of space with one bathroom. Two-bedroom units start at $2,942 for 1,003 square feet and two bathrooms. Residents who move into a one-bedroom unit by March 15 can get two months of free rent if they sign a 13-month lease, according to the North Shore Flats website. hahaha hell yeah
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Jan 30, 2024 16:37
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:My wife has an actual useful job and she's basically lost pay against inflation
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Jan 30, 2024 16:41
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Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:Another bog standard 5-over-1 just opened here, hopefully it'll help alleviate our housing crisis. Wonder how the pricing looks! In Pittsburgh have they lost their minds for reference you could get a two bedroom in San Francisco for this kind of money
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Jan 30, 2024 16:42
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Beached Whale posted:how long will it take for people to learn that you need to phone it in doing the bare minimum, you're gonna get cut regardless when the axe starts to fall. how can we teach the zoomers that working hard benefits your boss not you Don't underestimate the amount of grindset propaganda coming from absolutely every angle. It takes years of experience to understand how badly management will abuse you for the sin of working hard or caring, and most people never, ever, come to that realization no matter how little forward progress they make.
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Jan 30, 2024 16:43
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I got a 2% raise with a stellar performance review. I'm already overpaid for the work I can actually get done, so I'm not too discombobulated about my own situation, but I know all of this is not fair to most other workers. I wish we could convince the CHUDS. It feels so hopeless.
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Jan 30, 2024 16:43
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Truniht posted:In Pittsburgh have they lost their minds for reference you could get a two bedroom in San Francisco for this kind of money That's just what rental pricing looks like anywhere that anyone might theoretically want to live. Apartments are even more expensive in my little corner of CT and I don't live in anything that could really be called a city.
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Jan 30, 2024 16:45
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Truniht posted:In Pittsburgh have they lost their minds for reference you could get a two bedroom in San Francisco for this kind of money I mean, they're not building this poo poo to lose money and the people building it know their pricing is way out of line for the market. So there's some angle here they're going to make money on that isn't $3K/mo for 726 square feet but I have no idea what it is.
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Jan 30, 2024 16:45
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Truniht posted:In Pittsburgh have they lost their minds for reference you could get a two bedroom in San Francisco for this kind of money No that's about what it costs everywhere now.
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Jan 30, 2024 16:45
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i got a 19% raise with a stellar performance review last year, have you tried working in mid level product management making unnecessary toys for well off people?
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Jan 30, 2024 16:46
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gradenko_2000 posted:I think the point is that people who aren't practically managers are still put into the manager job title regardless because it excludes them from a bunch of labor rights that would be pretty useful if you were otherwise still rank-and-file this is the position I'm in currently. it's an entry level job at a company that has similar work being done by unionized members but my title has Manager in it so I'm not eligible for the bargaining unit. I think it's pretty common in Huge companies.
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Jan 30, 2024 16:50
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It is still probably way too high for the area, but Portland is $2400-2600 for a new 2 bedroom. America is an expensive place to try to survive in.
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Jan 30, 2024 16:50
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i used to live near there that mcd's is like 100 feet away from the big artery going in-out of DC so some mornings there'd be like a quarter mile line to get your treats on the way to work
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Jan 30, 2024 16:51
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euphronius posted:yes this happened to my cousin and within a year he got driven totally crazy by UPS Corporate and jumped to FedEx which was apparently even worse as a driver and then just quit the field entirely .
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Jan 30, 2024 16:51
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There is a similar 5-over-1 built about three miles from that one a decade ago that's changed it's name twice to escape bad publicity. Doors and drawers don't close properly and the roof leaks constantly and pricing there ain't far off either.  \That particular design of building seems real lovely
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Jan 30, 2024 16:53
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In Training posted:this happened to my cousin and within a year he got driven totally crazy by UPS Corporate and jumped to FedEx which was apparently even worse as a driver and then just quit the field entirely . yeah FedEx I believe you're technically an independent contractor despite driving a giant truck with FEDEX on the side
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Jan 30, 2024 16:53
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Drive thrus should be illegal. Get out of your car if you want your slop
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Jan 30, 2024 16:54
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ah my neighborhoods gigantic purpose built air bnb 3bd 6ba house that rented for $350 a night is now up for rent $5500/mo
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Jan 30, 2024 16:57
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Beached Whale posted:Drive thrus should be illegal. Get out of your car if you want your slop It's like you want people to get covid on principle here
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Jan 30, 2024 16:59
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PoundSand posted:in response to Covid my previous employer did a pay freeze for 3 years and finally capitulated and gave us all a 2% pay raise in 2023 when people started leaving. it of course made us leave faster. what happened was that during covid, labor suddenly gained some power because they could walk out from lovely jobs and therefore demanded higher wages in their next one. but then suddenly “inflation”, whatever the gently caress this means anymore, started being a problem again and so wages were pushed downwards by needing to raise unemployment - this is how all the smart neoliberals framed it for us then the banking crisis happened where because of the response to inflation, rates became high enough to wobble the commercial banking sector’s liquidity/solvency which then caused Silicon Valley to falter due to VCs pulling back on giving everyone money to create fake middle man apps. that rippled out everywhere as once fart apps no longer needed developing, thousands were let go and other industries also followed suit wages rising domestically is a big problem for a system that relies on the systematic exploitation of foreign workers because the cost structure of domestic workers need to account for all the privatized payments like healthcare, education and housing whereas foreign workers often have free education, free healthcare and low housing costs. this is all coming to a head in the TSMC move where they cannot make a profit here due to how expensive doing in America is. the current definition of inflation is divorced from both material and political reality and takes in the most narrow of definitions that it’s just another word to signal the ongoing crushing of labor
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