Political Cartoons 2024: I swear to god, these are getting stupider

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Skios: Oct 1, 2021

A.F. Branco

Andy Marlette

Chip Bok

Gary Markstein

Gary Varvel

The Groundhog Day cartoons will continue until morale improves.

John Deering

Michael Ramirez

Mike Luckovich

Steve Kelley

Tom Stiglich

Skios fucked around with this message at 11:08 on Feb 2, 2024

# ? Feb 2, 2024 11:05

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# ? Jun 6, 2024 10:03

Nenonen: Oct 22, 2009; Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

The newspaper PC is just a demo version, you have to buy PC collections to fill all the blanks in the stories.

# ? Feb 2, 2024 11:08

the_steve: Nov 9, 2005; We're always hiring!

Microplastics posted:

As what?

If the Democrats really wanted, they could easily force the lock through.
Start applying pressure and the maga finger would not be sticking around to get broken, so their resistance is largely performative.

# ? Feb 2, 2024 11:10

The Islamic Shock: Apr 8, 2021

Skios posted:

Mike Luckovich

Oh gently caress all of the way off. Yes I'm sure the idea that someone doesn't want to participate in a system where the choices are obvious fascist leader or the genocider-in-chief is insane to you.

# ? Feb 2, 2024 11:34

skeleton warrior: Nov 12, 2016

The Islamic Shock posted:

Oh gently caress all of the way off. Yes I'm sure the idea that someone doesn't want to participate in a system where the choices are obvious fascist leader or the genocider-in-chief is insane to you.

The fascist leader is also a worse genocider.

Edit: also, seriously, anyone who thinks RFK Jr. would be a good President is a terrible person

# ? Feb 2, 2024 14:48

HannibalBarca: Sep 11, 2016; History shows, again and again, how nature points out the folly of man.

The Islamic Shock posted:

Oh gently caress all of the way off. Yes I'm sure the idea that someone doesn't want to participate in a system where the choices are obvious fascist leader or the genocider-in-chief is insane to you.

If nothing else, Luckovich is an unerring window into the brains of TV-addled 65+ year old libs

...wait a second, he's 64? could have sworn he was like 80 something. yeesh.

# ? Feb 2, 2024 14:49

KennyMan666: May 27, 2010; The Saga

idonotlikepeas posted:

Jimmy Margulies

Kellies nomination: Most incomprehensible

So, uh... AI is being shackled by Taylor Swift and fake porn? Who are friends? But friendship bracelets are supposed to be worn by two or more separate people, who are friends.

Whatever the message is supposed to be here, it feels extremely mangled.

# ? Feb 2, 2024 16:02

Nenonen: Oct 22, 2009; Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

KennyMan666 posted:

Kellies nomination: Most incomprehensible

So, uh... AI is being shackled by Taylor Swift and fake porn? Who are friends? But friendship bracelets are supposed to be worn by two or more separate people, who are friends.

Whatever the message is supposed to be here, it feels extremely mangled.

Nonsense, it's an election year!

# ? Feb 2, 2024 16:06

Angepain: Jul 13, 2012; what keeps happening to my clothes

KennyMan666 posted:

Kellies nomination: Most incomprehensible

So, uh... AI is being shackled by Taylor Swift and fake porn? Who are friends? But friendship bracelets are supposed to be worn by two or more separate people, who are friends.

Whatever the message is supposed to be here, it feels extremely mangled.

Also those handcuffs look like they'll easily fall off if the robot takes its arms down a little. it doesn't have hands.

# ? Feb 2, 2024 16:21

Apple Pie Hubbub: Feb 14, 2012; Take that, you greedy jerk!

logger posted:

Why aren't they hiding her like she asked? How is it the godmother has been hibernating for 30 years but knew where in the vast wasteland the goddaughter was?

Winslow recognizes Aunt Sense ("Look who's here!"), asks who she is ("Who is that?"), has never heard her name before ("Carmen Sense?"), has heard all about her but never met her ("So you're Carmen's godmother, Carmen Sense! She talks about you a lot"), and has met her before ("Here are things that have been going on since we saw you last").

# ? Feb 2, 2024 16:53

Angepain: Jul 13, 2012; what keeps happening to my clothes

This is making it very difficult to edit my Prickly City Fandom Wiki

# ? Feb 2, 2024 16:56

I dont know: Aug 9, 2003; That Guy here...

Apple Pie Hubbub posted:

Winslow recognizes Aunt Sense ("Look who's here!"), asks who she is ("Who is that?"), has never heard her name before ("Carmen Sense?"), has heard all about her but never met her ("So you're Carmen's godmother, Carmen Sense! She talks about you a lot"), and has met her before ("Here are things that have been going on since we saw you last").

Imagine if your only job is writer and you produced that. Tats is incoherent, but at least he has the excuse that he has to spend most of his time making the art.

# ? Feb 2, 2024 17:27

Randalor: Sep 4, 2011

I dont know posted:

Imagine if your only job is writer and you produced that. Tats is incoherent, but at least he has the excuse that he has to spend most of his time making the art.

Making the art one-handed, at that.

# ? Feb 2, 2024 17:32

Nenonen: Oct 22, 2009; Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa

I dont know posted:

Imagine if your only job is writer and you produced that. Tats is incoherent, but at least he has the excuse that he has to spend most of his time making the art.

It might be created with ChatGPT to maximise the laziness. I could respect that ethos at least.

# ? Feb 2, 2024 17:42

InsertPotPun: Apr 16, 2018; Pissy Bitch stan

dammit i almost called the "relatives with other 'blank-sense' names" bullshit. the storyline will continue until he can't think of any more

# ? Feb 2, 2024 18:13

Stultus Maximus: Dec 21, 2009; USPOL May

Apple Pie Hubbub posted:

Winslow recognizes Aunt Sense ("Look who's here!"), asks who she is ("Who is that?"), has never heard her name before ("Carmen Sense?"), has heard all about her but never met her ("So you're Carmen's godmother, Carmen Sense! She talks about you a lot"), and has met her before ("Here are things that have been going on since we saw you last").

Has anyone made an �Auntie Sense� joke yet?

# ? Feb 2, 2024 18:30

Phlegmish: Jul 2, 2011

Apple Pie Hubbub posted:

Winslow recognizes Aunt Sense ("Look who's here!"), asks who she is ("Who is that?"), has never heard her name before ("Carmen Sense?"), has heard all about her but never met her ("So you're Carmen's godmother, Carmen Sense! She talks about you a lot"), and has met her before ("Here are things that have been going on since we saw you last").

Prickly City manages to be both insanely dull and bland, and completely inconsistent

# ? Feb 2, 2024 19:12

Cloud Potato: Jan 9, 2011; "I'm... happy!"

Guardian:

"Ben Jennings on Labour�s refusal to reinstate the bankers� bonus cap � Senior Labour figures are annoyed by news that the party will not reinstate a cap on bankers� bonuses if it wins the next election"

Telegraph:

Tax cuts in Budget will not be as large as the autumn's, Jeremy Hunt warns

Matt:

The downbeat IMF economist who is persistently bleak on Britain

Independent:

Labour finally ditches its �28bn green investment promise

Times:

# ? Feb 2, 2024 19:14

the_steve: Nov 9, 2005; We're always hiring!

https://twitter.com/BennettCartoons/status/1753201540129513645?t=cMa7Be9UqCn2SMOoTIBb7Q&s=19

# ? Feb 2, 2024 20:14

Pants Donkey: Nov 13, 2011

As I understand it, the "immigration crisis" is basically Republicans claiming every person crossing the border is doing so illegally, when it's normally just asylum seekers. But they're all men in their 20s, which is extremely suspicious that a person of prime working age would go to another country to seek work. Why aren't we seeing more elderly women? Makes you think.

And Biden is like still deporting and doing most of the lovely stuff his predecessor did, except being less racist about it, but that doesn't win elections, so nearly four years of fearmongering about "invasions" and the "porous border". Ignoring that most of the criminal elements of immigration do not even happen on foot but via air or even by the Canadian border. And Biden isn't doing his duty because he's not actively telling the military to kill every immigrant on sight.

Is that the simple gist of it?

# ? Feb 2, 2024 20:25

Vib Rib: Jul 23, 2007; God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss
🍖🍖😛🍖🍖

No, wrong, this is an absolute INVASION at the border, just like it has been literally every election year, on schedule, for decades.

# ? Feb 2, 2024 20:51

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.

Pants Donkey posted:

As I understand it, the "immigration crisis" is basically Republicans claiming every person crossing the border is doing so illegally, when it's normally just asylum seekers. But they're all men in their 20s, which is extremely suspicious that a person of prime working age would go to another country to seek work. Why aren't we seeing more elderly women? Makes you think.

And Biden is like still deporting and doing most of the lovely stuff his predecessor did, except being less racist about it, but that doesn't win elections, so nearly four years of fearmongering about "invasions" and the "porous border". Ignoring that most of the criminal elements of immigration do not even happen on foot but via air or even by the Canadian border. And Biden isn't doing his duty because he's not actively telling the military to kill every immigrant on sight.

Is that the simple gist of it?

It's a bit more complicated because the asylum procedure isn't intended for people seeking work, and the current practices around it do create a perverse incentive; some relevant effort on the subject:

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

The border is pretty much boned until we fix the legal immigration process or people stop wanting to come to America. You can try to militarize the border and that might make it more orderly, but it is just going to result in the pre-2016 status quo of people sneaking across en masse instead of turning themselves in at the border - which is worse both in terms of the journey for the people and also likely to result in more illegal immigrants untracked and unsupported in the U.S. for the people who want to keep them out. Although, I guess it would be a success of stopping videos of huge amounts of people turning themselves in at border crossings if that was your goal.

The main problems with the border right now are:

- The ways to legally get into the U.S. for the sole purpose of making money/improving your quality of life are almost all totally shut out and the few that remain either require an employer sponsor or take 7+ years.

- Claiming asylum will stop you from getting kicked out of the U.S. temporarily, but "my quality of life would be much higher" doesn't qualify for asylum.

- This results in basically everyone claiming asylum because it is the only way to not get turned around right away.

- The asylum process was always slow, but it was also only meant to process groups that are 1/10th the size of them coming across right now.

- Trying to crack down on all the people claiming asylum "just" because it would significantly improve their life or economic situation leads to people with real asylum claims getting massively screwed.

- The asylum process has become the weird de facto official immigration process and it basically encourages people to mass the border and lie, which requires huge amounts of effort to handle and verify.

There are several options you can do:

- Fix the normal immigration process and guest worker/economic green card/H1-B Visa processes. They are currently capped at 85k per year, which is less than 10% of the total demand each year. That will allow more people into the country and take the huge weight off of the asylum process to better handle actual asylum cases.

- Make it basically impossible and horribly punishing to attempt to cross the border illegally or to try and claim asylum unless you have 100% proof and hope that doing this for a period of years will crush demand by making sure you have successful enforcement as high as possible so people think it isn't worth it.

- Massively expand the asylum system to meet capacity and basically just use a really broken and unwieldy system that was not intended for it as the "unofficial official" immigration process.

Several of those things are basically impossible and nobody wants to do all three of them at the same time, so . Instead, we just kind of hobble along with an outdated system and every attempt to update it since 1987 (37 years ago!!!) has failed.

Many Republicans just object to the idea of letting more of the "wrong" people into the country, so expanding the legal processes is a non-starter and can't even be negotiated. Most Democrats want to be compassionate and help people in the immediate-term, so the focus has been entirely on asylum-seekers and how to basically use the asylum process for an unintended purpose.

That sort of makes sense in the short-term, but it also hobbles the legal process in the long-term and results in both sides basically just attempting to inefficiently use the asylum process to weaponize their preferred political outcomes at the expense of legal and undocumented immigrants and actual asylum seekers who all get stuck in one inefficient process together because people kind of gave up on comprehensive immigration reform. It also teaches people who want to come to America that they need to use the asylum process and lie instead of going the legal route because the legal process is a complete waste of time unless you have 7-12 years, some money, and a lot patience to gamble that it works out for you.

Main Paineframe posted:

The border authorities really are getting overwhelmed, though. That's why his "shut down the border" offer is paired with literally doubling the current asylum officer workforce and increase the number of immigration judges by about 50%, so they can start whittling down the ~1 million pending asylum applications still in the queue and clear the massive years-long immigration court backlog. Especially since polls are showing that voters think immigration is one of the most important issues to them coming into this election.

1600 new asylum officers and 375 new immigration judges doesn't sound like much, but the US currently has 1600 asylum officers and ~600 immigration judges, total.

The average wait time to get an asylum application heard right now is around four years. The system desperately needs either more resources, a reduction of the number of people coming into it, or a major rework to decrease the administrative workload of each case.

The asylum situation is a version in microcosm of the procedural and incentive systems that make immigration intractable as a policy issue (and therefore a popular wedge for Republicans): advocate groups on both "sides" of the issue have an incentive for the system to not work in different ways. In particular, as an individual case adjudicative system where if you are advocating for individuals, you have an incentive for the processing of removal to not work. On a collective advocacy level, inducing or promoting dysfunction in the system is a way for both pro-immigrant groups and anti-immigrant groups to advocate for their preferred "reforms".

# ? Feb 2, 2024 20:54

Trapezium Dave: Oct 22, 2012

Pope:

Anthony Albanese's tax change invites a wider debate about tax reform that the government doesn't want to have (ABC, Analysis).

Rowe:

Katauskas:

Leak, Son of Leak:

Video analysis finds no evidence of 'gas the Jews' being chanted at Sydney Opera House protest, despite witness statements (ABC). "Police say the independent analysis found the chant was "where's the Jews", which a prominent Jewish leader says is "as bad".".

# ? Feb 2, 2024 22:00

The Islamic Shock: Apr 8, 2021

drat shame nobody wants to actually fix immigration because at the bare minimum, it seems like taking the policy of "let's expand the legal immigration process you guys always say you wish so badly they'd go through the first place to greatly reduce the demand for illegal immigration you definitely hate" would at the very least be a useful blunt weapon.

# ? Feb 2, 2024 22:05

Microplastics: Jul 6, 2007; It's what's for dinner.

Trapezium Dave posted:

Rowe:

Is that supposed to be a star of david

# ? Feb 2, 2024 22:33

Blind Duke: Nov 8, 2013

Unfortunately, �we hired one more judge to process legal immigration requests and increased the yearly limit by 10� means �the border has been thrown WIDE OPEN! Terrorists streaming in by the millions! How could our leader betray us so?�

# ? Feb 2, 2024 22:34

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.

The Islamic Shock posted:

drat shame nobody wants to actually fix immigration because at the bare minimum, it seems like taking the policy of "let's expand the legal immigration process you guys always say you wish so badly they'd go through the first place to greatly reduce the demand for illegal immigration you definitely hate" would at the very least be a useful blunt weapon.

To some degree that's the angle the administration is seeking by pursuing improved processing capacity, something that was needed long before the rate of entry through asylum application blew up.

# ? Feb 2, 2024 22:36

Indiana_Krom: Jun 18, 2007; Net Slacker

The truth is the border crisis and debt will completely cease to exist the exact zeptosecond a republican takes office in the white house, and will not return again until the exact zeptosecond a democrat takes office in the white house, just as it has always been.

Republicans/conservatives love to complain about the border crisis/debt, but they absolutely hate any idea of actually doing anything about them. "No! Not that way!"

A conservative in another internet forum I used to frequent seriously suggested putting machine gun nests/emplacements all along the border (and this was back in the Obama years). So basically any realistic solution proposed to address the border crisis will fail with republicans/conservatives because it would not be nearly racist enough to get their support.

# ? Feb 3, 2024 00:00

MechaCrash: Jan 1, 2013

KennyMan666 posted:

Kellies nomination: Most incomprehensible

So, uh... AI is being shackled by Taylor Swift and fake porn? Who are friends? But friendship bracelets are supposed to be worn by two or more separate people, who are friends.

Whatever the message is supposed to be here, it feels extremely mangled.

It's poorly conveyed, but the gist of it is that Twitter got flooded with AI-generated fake porn of Taylor Swift, who actually has the clout to fight back, so there may actually be some hammers coming down and regulations being drafted.

# ? Feb 3, 2024 00:23

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.

Indiana_Krom posted:

The truth is the border crisis and debt will completely cease to exist the exact zeptosecond a republican takes office in the white house, and will not return again until the exact zeptosecond a democrat takes office in the white house, just as it has always been.

Republicans/conservatives love to complain about the border crisis/debt, but they absolutely hate any idea of actually doing anything about them. "No! Not that way!"

A conservative in another internet forum I used to frequent seriously suggested putting machine gun nests/emplacements all along the border (and this was back in the Obama years). So basically any realistic solution proposed to address the border crisis will fail with republicans/conservatives because it would not be nearly racist enough to get their support.

For all the reasons I already posted above, the immigration case processing system has actual, severe, problems that exist in reality independent of whether or not it's being used for a particular narrative.

# ? Feb 3, 2024 00:43

idonotlikepeas: May 29, 2010; This reasoning is possible for forums user idonotlikepeas!

Adam Zyglis

Amjad Rasmi

Ann Telnaes

I don't believe Telnaes is defending social networks here, just pointing out the hypocrisy.

Bill Bramhall

Carlos Latuff

Clay Bennett

Dave Whamond

David Horsey

David M. Hitch

Drew Sheneman

Ed Gamble

Jeff Danziger

Jimmy Margulies

John Darkow

Lisa Benson

Matt Davies

Mike Smith

Patrick Chappatte

Pedro X. Molina

Phil Hands

Rivers

# ? Feb 3, 2024 02:03

JamesBont: Oct 1, 2021

idonotlikepeas posted:

Adam Zyglis

John Darkow

Matt Davies

Mike Smith

# ? Feb 3, 2024 02:36

Discendo Vox: Mar 21, 2013; This does not make sense when, again, aggregate indicia also indicate improvements. The belief that things are worse is false. It remains false.

idonotlikepeas posted:

Pedro X. Molina

Kellies nomination: Laziest non-Gorrell

# ? Feb 3, 2024 02:39

I dont know: Aug 9, 2003; That Guy here...

Indiana_Krom posted:

A conservative in another internet forum I used to frequent seriously suggested putting machine gun nests/emplacements all along the border (and this was back in the Obama years). So basically any realistic solution proposed to address the border crisis will fail with republicans/conservatives because it would not be nearly racist enough to get their support.

My favorite from that time period was the guy who argued the border could be easy and cheaply secured by gathering up all the discarded tires in the country and piling them up along the border, several miles deep, 2000 miles long, dozens of feet high. Then just light the whole thing and create the worlds largest tire fire.

# ? Feb 3, 2024 04:59

The Islamic Shock: Apr 8, 2021

idonotlikepeas posted:

Lisa Benson

The sign is just the catchy sales pitch. The card actually says "get out of jail free, and go right the gently caress back to jail for a much longer time if you think about crimes (like not showing up for court) too hard, so show up for court or we will make you show up".

# ? Feb 3, 2024 05:03

L. Ron DeSantis: Nov 10, 2009

The Islamic Shock posted:

The sign is just the catchy sales pitch. The card actually says "get out of jail free, and go right the gently caress back to jail for a much longer time if you think about crimes (like not showing up for court) too hard, so show up for court or we will make you show up".

Also, there's no correlation between which cities have D or R leadership and are basically back to pre-pandemic crime levels and which aren't, and the most notable outlier (DC) is limited in setting its own policies. It's a less prominent example of how Republicans want a problem so they can run on it.

# ? Feb 3, 2024 05:21

Angry Salami: Jul 27, 2013; Don't trust the skull.

idonotlikepeas posted:

John Darkow

Congress and Social Media CEOs will eventually regain their self-respect and idealism and form a beautiful friendship by fighting Nazis. An absurdly optimistic cartoon.

# ? Feb 3, 2024 05:23

Xiahou Dun: Jul 16, 2009; We shall dive down through black abysses... and in that lair of the Deep Ones we shall dwell amidst wonder and glory forever.

I dont know posted:

My favorite from that time period was the guy who argued the border could be easy and cheaply secured by gathering up all the discarded tires in the country and piling them up along the border, several miles deep, 2000 miles long, dozens of feet high. Then just light the whole thing and create the worlds largest tire fire.

That�s a Freep thread classic.

# ? Feb 3, 2024 05:31