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16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014
stone cold steve austin feuding with and tormenting no one for all of the 90's and the crowd cheers for him

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16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014
when hogan's racist tapes leaked they memory holed hogan for a while lol

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

when they memory holed benoit they went out of their way to edit him out of matches and shows he participated in and removed his name from title changes and reigns so it looked like his opponents just won the match by themselves lol

Lmao I never knew this ahahahah

Sydney Bottocks
Oct 15, 2004

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

stone cold steve austin feuding with and tormenting no one for all of the 90's and the crowd cheers for him

The identity of the Higher Power was never revealed

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib
I can't believe no one has posted this yet:

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

Unlucky7 posted:

I can't believe no one has posted this yet:



its good poo poo

Cubone
May 26, 2011

Because it never leaves its bedroom, no one has ever seen this poster's real face.
hey bringing the rock back for mania worked out to be arguably fine one of the last four times it was attempted 8-13 years ago ok

Cubone
May 26, 2011

Because it never leaves its bedroom, no one has ever seen this poster's real face.

Sydney Bottocks posted:

The identity of the Higher Power was never revealed

:silent::
:bahgawd:: AW SON OF A BITCH

Cubone
May 26, 2011

Because it never leaves its bedroom, no one has ever seen this poster's real face.

Unlucky7 posted:

I can't believe no one has posted this yet:



Lost in Translation (2003)

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014
the rock is 50 years old he's going to get tired 2 minutes into the match and roman cant carry an opponent because he's not an amazing wrestler either its going to rule lol

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

LOVE IS BEAUTIFUL
(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ♥(‘∀’●)

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

the rock is 50 years old he's going to get tired 2 minutes into the match and roman cant carry an opponent because he's not an amazing wrestler either its going to rule lol

Dwayne gonna look like Steven Seagal in that video where he's lumbering around all winded from dudes throwing themselves on the ground

Seth Pecksniff
May 27, 2004

can't believe shrek is fucking dead. rip to a real one.

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

the rock is 50 years old he's going to get tired 2 minutes into the match and roman cant carry an opponent because he's not an amazing wrestler either its going to rule lol

Perfect main match at WrestleMania!

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


16-bit Butt-Head posted:

the rock is 50 years old he's going to get tired 2 minutes into the match and roman cant carry an opponent because he's not an amazing wrestler either its going to rule lol

Meanwhile Sting is nearly 65 and he's going to be doing his retirement match next month, but it's okay because he's been working his rear end off in AEW, knows his limitations enough to make every match a tag match, and is going out against a team that can easily carry him if need be.

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

LOVE IS BEAUTIFUL
(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ♥(‘∀’●)

Sting lolling off camera and doing everything he can to cover his face while KURRANGL goes "scotty" in the HE'S FAT promo is one of my all time sting moments

MrQwerty fucked around with this message at 23:04 on Feb 3, 2024

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014
remembering when wwe finally signed sting had him do nothing then had him lose against triple h because vince wanted to bury wcw again get injured and then never be seen on wwe television again

Cubone
May 26, 2011

Because it never leaves its bedroom, no one has ever seen this poster's real face.

MrQwerty posted:

Sting lolling off camera and doing everything he can to cover his face while KURRANGL goes "scotty" in the HE'S FAT promo is one of my all time sting moments
it was not made clear to me how funny the main even mafia was and I'm kind of annoyed. people only talked about how bad it was and not how hilarious it was

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lAaKIusePE

roomtone
Jul 1, 2021

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 2 hours!)

I think this has finally been the tipping point for me in breaking my annoying semi-interest in wrestling. It's like, I always wondered - why is it so boring and bad and stupid most of the time? and you think well it's full of right winger sleazebags but there are good people within the mix who are just trying to entertain despite that and now I feel like nah, there are simply zero good people involved in an entertainment form is which makes its money from people too young or stupid to realise that it's all not only fake, but gross. every major star is a complete poo poo and the people in charge of the company are basically evil, and anybody who doesn't seem poo poo we just don't know about OR is actually dumb/desperate enough to actually care about this, they're just another form of mark.

I suppose I thought, maybe there's a way to clean up/elevate this stupid concept and it isn't just fundamentally bad, so it was a guilty pleasure at times, but now I think it's just fundamentally bad. And it's solidified a lesson I kinda learned with Louis CK and Rick and Morty where if there are huge blaring red flags getting mixed in with whatever the fun thing about the entertainment is, then something even more rotten is going to be underneath the things you are trying to ignore. So in the future when I see those, I won't overlook them. I'll just dip out.

SatansOnion
Dec 12, 2011

Sydney Bottocks posted:

Never mind Brock, they want people to forget Vince was ever a part of WWE

at least the video editors will have steady work for the foreseeable future, snipping around the old rapist and the big pink rapist and possibly also Triple H because there's zero fuckin way he wasn't perfectly aware of the ongoing executive depravity

the New Age Outlaws gonna look sorta lonely as the only acknowledged members of Degeneraton X :v:

Jamesman
Nov 19, 2004

"First off, let me start by saying curly light blond hair does not suit Hyomin at all. Furthermore,"
Fun Shoe
Stunts like this always make me feel like WWE hasn't produced a proper star in like 20 years.

Like, you have to rely on dragging these people out into the ring for some kind of hype because you have so little faith in your current roster/your current roster is genuinely that uninteresting? Really makes me wanna check out your show.

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014
there's an entire wikipedia article about roman reigns and how badly he has been booked for almost his entire career

KungFu Grip
Jun 18, 2008
The bigger problem is that wwe kind does have newer stars with their audience, it's literally just they don't have any idea how to use them because the focus can only ever be on one person at a time. Like crowds love cody, lashley, McIntyre, KO, Sami, hell even Jey Uso and Gunther coming up, but everything has to be sacrificed to the throne of Roman while everything else is after thought. Even the women is the same only Rhea Ripley is used and no one cares about booking Bayley, Bianca, Becky or the other women's champ right

bradzilla
Oct 15, 2004

Cody Rhodes is a huge dork and lmao at getting owned by the rock.

Rock was also brought back for one more match and beat Cena ten years ago. Then he came back for one more match again the next year to pass the torch to Cena at the tail end of Cena's full-time run. Then a couple years later he came back to squash the entire Wyatt Family, a very good and popular heel stable at the time. gently caress the rock.

Mr Luxury Yacht
Apr 16, 2012


16-bit Butt-Head posted:

stone cold steve austin feuding with and tormenting no one for all of the 90's and the crowd cheers for him

I want to see the Vince-less cut of the Attitude era where it looks like Steve Austin is just hanging around the background in a plethora of disguises for absolutely no reason.

Szyznyk
Mar 4, 2008

If they could dub out Vince and Mr Perfect or Vince and Ted Dibiase and replace them with JR and the King on some of those Royal Rumbles I’d greatly appreciate it.

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

LOVE IS BEAUTIFUL
(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ♥(‘∀’●)

I want to see the :vince:less cut of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jY3e1y3dolo

:nws: for footage of :vince: most likely sexually assaulting rikishi

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014
austin carried that company on his back and hosed up neck during the 90's

spaceblancmange
Apr 19, 2018

#essereFerrari

wrestling shouldn't have survived 1995

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014
people remember the attitude era fondly but it was mostly really bad jerry springer poo poo with wrestling interspersed in between

Paul Revere 3000
Dec 8, 2007

So like a pimp I'm pimpin'
I got a boat to eat shrimp in
Nothing wrong with my leg
I'm just B-boy limpin'


Szyznyk posted:

If they could dub out Vince and Mr Perfect or Vince and Ted Dibiase and replace them with JR and the King on some of those Royal Rumbles I’d greatly appreciate it.

The King doesn't exactly have the most spotless reputation himself...

Gavok
Oct 10, 2005

Brock! Oh, man, I'm sorry about your...

...tooth?


roomtone posted:

I think this has finally been the tipping point for me in breaking my annoying semi-interest in wrestling. It's like, I always wondered - why is it so boring and bad and stupid most of the time? and you think well it's full of right winger sleazebags but there are good people within the mix who are just trying to entertain despite that and now I feel like nah, there are simply zero good people involved in an entertainment form is which makes its money from people too young or stupid to realise that it's all not only fake, but gross. every major star is a complete poo poo and the people in charge of the company are basically evil, and anybody who doesn't seem poo poo we just don't know about OR is actually dumb/desperate enough to actually care about this, they're just another form of mark.

I suppose I thought, maybe there's a way to clean up/elevate this stupid concept and it isn't just fundamentally bad, so it was a guilty pleasure at times, but now I think it's just fundamentally bad. And it's solidified a lesson I kinda learned with Louis CK and Rick and Morty where if there are huge blaring red flags getting mixed in with whatever the fun thing about the entertainment is, then something even more rotten is going to be underneath the things you are trying to ignore. So in the future when I see those, I won't overlook them. I'll just dip out.

Watch AEW. They're getting Okada and Ospreay soon.

Mad Doctor Cthulhu
Mar 3, 2008

Imagine the '80s stuff without McMahon. Just Ventura standing around wearing pastel boas occasionally talking back at empty space. Or the commentary which is Jesse Ventura having arguments with himself to dead silence.

Which would be better because gently caress the McMahons.

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014
roman reigns has been so dominant that they had to make him a special title so everyone else can actually do something lol

Cornwind Evil
Dec 14, 2004


The undisputed world champion of wrestling effortposting
IN A VACUUM, the sheer degree of memory holing that Vince will need, and Brock (and Hogan in retrospect), is not THEORETICALLY as extreme as the one Benoit suffered, for two reasons

1) As horrible and disgusting as Vince's crimes are, and Brock's, and everyone else's, rape and being debased and trafficked is something that one can recover from. You can't recover from being murdered. But mainly...

2) Benoit's crime was in many ways uniquely attributed to wrestling as a business and an existence; a man turned his brain into pudding doing stupid things like essentially faceplanting himself into hard floors and human bodies for decades and the damage finally ramped up so much that the man decided the best solution for his problems was to kill his whole family, then himself. Hogan made racist comments? There's racists everywhere. Vince is an absolute sex pest monster? His breed is also everywhere there are powerful men, it's not unique to wrestling. But Benoit's crime? It's indelibly tied to everything wrestling is, even in ways football and boxing, which can cause the same issues, isn't, because those are legit and people are actively trying to AVOID getting hit in the head. Hence, the sheer overwhelming effort to memory hole Benoit. His crime exposed the business' rotten guts, in a way the steroid trials never did, and that is, well...very bad for business. So they went super, ultra hard.

Unlike Hogan, who eventually got 'forgiven', I doubt this will happen with Vince and co. I suspect it will be a case of 'we just will not promote them, and will place warnings at the start of anything that features them prominently'.

AlmightyBob
Sep 8, 2003

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

people remember the attitude era fondly but it was mostly really bad jerry springer poo poo with wrestling interspersed in between

I vividly remember watching a raw or something in the late 90s where sable hands jr or maybe Lawler the copy of playboy that she was in

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Sydney Bottocks posted:

The identity of the Higher Power was never revealed

...this sounds like an opportunity to me!

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

Ghost Leviathan posted:

...this sounds like an opportunity to me!

it was roman

Mulaney Power Move
Dec 30, 2004

So Teddy Long's take on the whole Vince thing was John Laurinaitis was the one who encouraged Vince and was behind it all and he knows things about him that we don't know he knows.

Cornwind Evil
Dec 14, 2004


The undisputed world champion of wrestling effortposting

Hefty Leftist posted:

send me links to the effort posts and ill throw them in the OP

Shawn Michaels: Mr Wrestlemania

"Part 3": https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3991949&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=57#post522524654 (In the post already, but this is my April Fools fakeout where I talk about the Gobbledey Gooker instead)

The Real Part 3: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3991949&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=60#post522607032

Part 4/Conclusion: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3991949&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=62#post522678395

Beasts of Burden: An Examination Of The Circumstances of Brock Lesnar vs Goldberg at Wrestlemania 20

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3991949&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=65#post522779467

A Personal Assessment Of Vince Russo

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3991949&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=67#post523027450

Pro Wrestling: A History
(On hold, but I do want to finish it)

Part 1 (for now, the only Part): https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3991949&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=74#post523883625

A Star Is Scorned: Some Never Weres, What Ifs, and What Thes In The Business' Last Few Decades

Billy Gunn, Part 1: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3991949&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=99#post531173264

Billy Gunn (And Bart Gunn And The Brawl For All Redux), Part 2: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3991949&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=99#post531194590

Matt Bloom, ie Albert, A-Train, Tensai, and Sweet T, along with some other rear end in a top hat (Not Droz): https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3991949&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=99#post531202413

A Scattershot Finish Of Failings/Conclusion: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3991949&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=100#post531267630

All That Glitters: The Strange Mad Career of Dustin Runnels, ie Goldust

Part 1: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3991949&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=100#post531318636

Part 2: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3991949&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=100#post531468303 (Goldust is truly 'born')

Part 3: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3991949&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=102#post531563592

Part 4:https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3991949&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=103#post531607529 (TAFKA Goldust)

Part 5: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3991949&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=103#post531757787 (Booker T Team/Tourette's Goldust)

Part 6(66): https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3991949&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=106#post531956674 (Black Reign)

Part 7: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3991949&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=107#post531982178 (Guest starring Stardust)

Part 8/Conclusion: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3991949&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=110#post532099442

The Undertaker's No Good, Very Bad First Career Quarter (1990-1996)


Part 1: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3991949&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=112#post532134180 (Debut)

Part 2: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3991949&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=115#post532213172 (Kamala, Giant Gonzalez)

Part 3: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3991949&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=115#post532213172 (Yokozuna, with some CW analysis on the infamous Undertaker 1994 angle and the Survivor Series followup)

Part 4: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3991949&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=116#post532303108 ("Underfaker", IRS)

Part 5/Conclusion: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3991949&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=117#post532402536 (King Kong Bundy, Kama, Mabel, and some Kevin Nash at the end)

And just because, here's my cleaned up version of "The Sleaziest Stories In Pro Wrestling" as well.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1fMe4vfVY6sRMVF4s1aiOXjc8KOt2r2GDPklSCKjWx94/edit?usp=sharing

Cornwind Evil
Dec 14, 2004


The undisputed world champion of wrestling effortposting

Mulaney Power Move posted:

So Teddy Long's take on the whole Vince thing was John Laurinaitis was the one who encouraged Vince and was behind it all and he knows things about him that we don't know he knows.

Makes sense. John was the classic backstabbing rear end in a top hat who tried to get Teddy fired repeatedly, while I assume Teddy had at least somewhat cordial relations with Vince, so Teddy's mind can't wrap itself around the concept that Vince is THAT BAD and is looking for excuses, and since he already hates John, that's an easy conclusion.

It's human. We don't handle it well when our opinions and assessments turn out to be wholly wrong, and when that 'wholly wrong' means 'Someone you think MIGHT have been a bastard was in fact an utter superbastard POS monster, and oh you probably suspected or knew on some level, but you denied it because it was easier'. There's gonna be a lot of 'That doesn't sound like the Vince I knew's, because as said, psychopaths are good at masks, and a lot of people take others at face value.

Cornwind Evil fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Feb 4, 2024

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Szyznyk
Mar 4, 2008

Paul Revere 3000 posted:

The King doesn't exactly have the most spotless reputation himself...

It takes a lot to make the statutory rapist the lesser evil in a situation, but ol’ Vince pulled it off.

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