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Data Graham posted:Either she's stupid and that's exactly what she thinks he's saying (that kids should fly free without buying a ticket at all, WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE POOR AIRLINES), or she's a sly fox and is deliberately misinterpreting what he said to make it sound like that's what he was saying because it will make millions of idiots mad at Biden. Do you remember when you could just travel with your stuff? Like you could bring clothes/toiletries with you where you had to go. What about when kids could travel alone so if you are a co parent that lives in a different state you don't need to buy seven tickets just to have a visit with your kid. I also can remember when if you were hungry or thirsty they just gave you something. This is something I try to point out to my son: When you make it so there are only a few companies that control all the routes and actually bid between them to keep rates up the only thing you get is customer abuse and rich shareholders. You are at their mercy. Its the same with ISPs in most places. Don't like it? No other companies fly there, or no other ISPs offer the service you need. Something I don't think got much press was the gouging that happened during covid. Inflation was nearly a quarter gouging. I didnt hear much about it.
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Feb 6, 2024 15:00
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A signed and notarized statement by the rapist saying "I, state your name, hereby affirm that I raped so-and-so on such-and-such date"
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Feb 6, 2024 15:00
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CommieGIR posted:This will be utterly unenforceable too so its just more performative art. It's doable. It will take some extreme arm twisting at the ISP level. But it's absolutely doable across a state, to the point that 99% of people won't bother to do something like install a VPN and tunnel the app through it, which is about as much enforcement and compliance as other laws see.
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Feb 6, 2024 15:01
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Hunger....Hunger is a way bigger problem in the state. What about all the homeless kids or the kids that don't have internet? No. Gotta go after social media companies.
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Feb 6, 2024 15:01
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ManBoyChef posted:Do you remember when you could just travel with your stuff? Like you could bring clothes/toiletries with you where you had to go. What about when kids could travel alone so if you are a co parent that lives in a different state you don't need to buy seven tickets just to have a visit with your kid. Capitalism: "competition is good, it prevents this kind of thing from happening" Also capitalism: "It is every corporation's sacred right, nay the market's purpose, to agglomerate each industry into a natural monopoly, and gently caress you government if you think you have poo poo to say"
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Feb 6, 2024 15:02
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Slyphic posted:It's doable. It will take some extreme arm twisting at the ISP level. Except that most cases you can just change your DNS provider outside of a controlled network, and that's ignoring the bigger issue that this will get struck down on a 1st Amendment charge easily, especially around Interstate Commerce interference. This isn't a corporate or school network we're talking about; They've tried this before, and it doesn't hold up even in the most conservative of courts. Outside of Government network and devices (which you shouldn't be doing Tiktok and Social Media on anyways) its really not enforceable. If it were, Piracy sites would already be largely gone from being viewable. And they haven't even managed that.
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Feb 6, 2024 15:05
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Peons being able to READ the Bible is when all the trouble started. I say Florida moves to ban literacy.
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Feb 6, 2024 15:06
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ManBoyChef posted:Do you remember when you could just travel with your stuff? Like you could bring clothes/toiletries with you where you had to go. What about when kids could travel alone so if you are a co parent that lives in a different state you don't need to buy seven tickets just to have a visit with your kid. Is this when a single transatlantic ticket cost $5,000 in today's money?
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Feb 6, 2024 15:08
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$10k - $20k kids also can still travel alone, although the flight attendant will take care of em usually
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Feb 6, 2024 15:09
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ManBoyChef posted:Do you remember when you could just travel with your stuff? Like you could bring clothes/toiletries with you where you had to go. What about when kids could travel alone so if you are a co parent that lives in a different state you don't need to buy seven tickets just to have a visit with your kid. When I was a wee lad, DC-10s had a problem with engines falling off. That summer I was flying cross country to visit family, so young mllaneza, aged maybe 11, got dropped off at the airport with a ticket. We got my baggage checked and I was on my way... up until I noticed that I was booked on a DC-10. After some hubbub involving long distance collect calls later I was on a non-DC-10 flight... twelve hours later. I had some books and a little pocket money, so just hung out in the airport for 12 hours. No big deal, but I am belatedly apologetic for the logistical mess that caused at my destination.
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Feb 6, 2024 15:10
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CommieGIR posted:Except that most cases you can just change your DNS provider outside of a controlled network That won't work. ISPs with any interest in DNS are grabbing all outgoing DNS traffic and proxying it. Comcast is particularly egregious with that poo poo. The only real way to bypass anything your ISP wants to do is with an encrypted tunnel, be it just for DNS or a full-fledged VPN connection.
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Feb 6, 2024 15:11
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You forgot to mention that the engine fell off the plane you would have been on
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Feb 6, 2024 15:11
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TulliusCicero posted:Hell why stop at vaccinations? imo they should go further, homemade horse paste. current horse paste is made in a ((((((((((leftist)))))))))))))))) factory somewhere and with gov regulation, regs are bad. also chemicals are bad.
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Feb 6, 2024 15:15
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to be fair, if you let your child use any social media you're as bad of a parent as anyone moving to Florida.
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Feb 6, 2024 15:16
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Vax gives everyone turbo cancer. Trump took the vax and is in peak health. Amazing mental disconnect as usal.
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Feb 6, 2024 15:17
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Grey Cat posted:Vax gives everyone turbo cancer. Trump took the vax and is in peak health. Amazing mental disconnect as usal. Yeah, I'm not quite sure what the conspiracy is exactly - it leads to early deaths, but liberals were more open to it than chuds, yet it kills chuds?
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Feb 6, 2024 15:19
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Grey Cat posted:Vax gives everyone turbo cancer. Trump took the vax and is in peak health. Amazing mental disconnect as usal. Trump didn't actually take the vax. He lied and faked it in order to fool Fauci. Now he's got Fauci exactly where he wants him. Don't worry. Curtain will be pulled back soon. Chess pieces are in place. STANDY BY AND STAND BACK. WWG1WGA.
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Feb 6, 2024 15:20
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VAX SPIKE SHEDDING!! 
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Feb 6, 2024 15:20
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CommieGIR posted:Except that most cases you can just change your DNS provider outside of a controlled network
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Feb 6, 2024 15:21
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Three Olives posted:When I was a child my parents would fly in first-class and put us in coach (domestic) or business (international), occasionally checking on us, sometimes. I turned out fine, kids are too soft these days. 3O just sitting there in coach next to some Peter Grave's looking man, "“3O, do you like movies about gladiators?”
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Feb 6, 2024 15:22
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Toby Keith died let's all mourn ok I'm done
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Feb 6, 2024 15:23
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Liquid Chicken posted:3O just sitting there in coach next to some Peter Grave's looking man, "“3O, do you like movies about gladiators?” The answer may surprise you!
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Feb 6, 2024 15:24
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I hope the Piano Guys are ready to play a double set at Trump's second inauguration now that Koby Tieth is dead.
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Feb 6, 2024 15:26
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Toby Keith died let's all mourn ok I'm done Shockin’ Y’All with a Defibrillator.
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Feb 6, 2024 15:32
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bird with big dick posted:I’m in the first stall in the public men’s room at the capitol building and I’m looking through the crack at Marjorie Taylor Greene and she is looking back at me ama PKMN Trainer Red please do the Jurassic Park scene with the T-Rex contracting pupil only it’s MTG’s crazy eye, tia
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Feb 6, 2024 15:33
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Total Party Kill posted:I hope the Piano Guys are ready to play a double set at Trump's second inauguration now that Koby Tieth is dead. Five Finger Death Punch usually don't get busy until County fair season.
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Feb 6, 2024 15:34
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Are the courts ever going to smack Florida down? It seems like they've had books banned for nearly 2 years now and no one has told them to put all the books back or go to jail yet.
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Feb 6, 2024 15:34
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Accipiter posted:That won't work. ISPs with any interest in DNS are grabbing all outgoing DNS traffic and proxying it. Comcast is particularly egregious with that poo poo. Given that I was able to get around Comcast's DNS changes with simple DNS substition - it most certainly does work. Comcast is half-assed in most of the implementations, let alone poo poo like DNS. And with Encrypted DNS becoming more and more of a thing - unless they are willing to start breaking encryption to inspect that traffic, even less enforceable. Slyphic posted:All networks are controlled by someone, ESPECIALLY the cellular networks. It's not hard to black hole Tik-Tok's (or FB, Insta, X, etc) networks, and then it's effectively dead to the masses. The goal will not be perfect enforcement, it will be good enough enforcement. No poo poo, you missed my point entirely - American ISPs are not that dedicated to blocking because the Courts themselves have been pretty clear that they don't really have that right - at least not yet. Slyphic posted:The goal will not be perfect enforcement, it will be good enough enforcement. Again - Courts have already said no on this a couple times. Technical enforcement is always possible. Legal enforcement, not so much. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 15:37 on Feb 6, 2024 |
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Feb 6, 2024 15:35
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All my sperms were replaced with vax spike and my child is a baby-sized coronavirus
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Feb 6, 2024 15:37
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BigBallChunkyTime posted:Toby Keith died let's all mourn ok I'm done Years ago Toby Keith came out as a Democrat. I thought it was refreshing at the time to see a country singer not part of the Klan and then he later went on to clarify that he was, in fact, a "Democrat" as defined by Civil War era politics. His legacy is that he was a headlining musical act of the inauguration for the first U.S. President to have a post-Presidency mug shot and his music loving sucks.
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Feb 6, 2024 15:37
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CommieGIR posted:Given that I was able to get around Comcast's DNS changes with simple DNS substition - it most certainly does work. You didn't get around it. Without an encrypted tunnel any DNS traffic leaving your network is still going through their proxy where it's being intercepted, inspected, and logged. Just because they're not doing anything with it doesn't mean it's not still being handled.
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Feb 6, 2024 15:38
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Accipiter posted:You didn't get around it. Without an encrypted tunnel any DNS traffic leaving your network is still going through their proxy where it's being intercepted, inspected, and logged. That's different, however again, Encrypted DNS means their proxies see nothing but the initial handshake with whoever you chose to provide your DNS past that point. And Comcast doesn't ding you for just visiting banned sites (again proving that while they can see the plaintext request, their 'ban' is superficial at best). And one thing we saw with the Tiktok ban - kids will most certainly learn how to setup DNS alternatives and encrypted DNS to get their tiktoks. Technology moves faster than law and enforcement. And the FCC and Federal Courts have smacked down State Laws like this previously for banning porn as a violation of the interstate commerce act. This likely will be no different; your company can of course ban sites on corporate and government networks - public networks are a different story. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 15:44 on Feb 6, 2024 |
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Feb 6, 2024 15:39
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CommieGIR posted:That's different, however again, Encrypted DNS means their proxies see nothing but the initial handshake with whoever you chose to provide your DNS past that point. You didn't say anything about encryption until just now, and that's what I said originally: Accipiter posted:Without an encrypted tunnel any DNS traffic leaving your network is still going through their proxy where it's being intercepted, inspected, and logged. Encrypted DNS is DNS over a tunnel. Using encrypted DNS is not just a "simple DNS substitution," which is what you said you did. (You added the bit in that comment about encrypted DNS after I replied.)
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Feb 6, 2024 15:44
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Since when does a DNS server have anything to do with age verification? Just put a banner up when you go to tiktok that requires clicking that says you are over 16. It works for porn sites and no one under 18 has ever visited a porn site.
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Feb 6, 2024 15:45
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Accipiter posted:That's a tunnel. Using encrypted DNS is not just a "simple DNS substitution," which is what you said you did. (You added the bit in that comment about encrypted DNS after I replied.) No, my point stands - Comcast has tried banning sites before, but you can get around it with a DNS substation - However, like you said, they can capture and track that still, but its unlikely they do anything with it as the FCC has made it clear - visiting sites is not a violate of a ban. That was my point. A good example - You can visit The Pirate Bay, Comcast can log that all they want - but they cannot place a strike against you for that. They have to actually capture your Torrent traffic to provide you violated that rule. So what if they log it and you use an alternate DNS proxy. They'll likely do nothing with that info until they have something solid. The Encrypted DNS discussion was just adding on top of that. And again - I'm going to reiterate - the Courts have repeatedly struck down any sort of bans like this, even in the cases of adult media and such. So Comcast can log and struggle all they want, States can pass all the bans they want, they are unenforceable because the ISPs will not risk FCC fines over enforcing such bans strictly. Of course its technically feasible to ban them, but legally not so much. The Dormant Commerce Clause has been used repeatedly to basically nullify such bans. I do cybersecurity for a living, thanks. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 15:52 on Feb 6, 2024 |
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Feb 6, 2024 15:46
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https://twitter.com/repmcgovern/status/1754660994092069360
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Feb 6, 2024 15:46
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Accipiter posted:You didn't say anything about encryption until just now, and that's what I said originally: DoH/DoT is just a switch you turn on in modern browsers. not sure why you're acting like it's a whole thing to encrypt DNS traffic.
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Feb 6, 2024 15:47
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Is her implication here that he's sucking dick in the Capitol building john? Pretty spicy stuff if so
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Feb 6, 2024 15:49
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So trans people can't use bathrooms but it's okay if MTG uses the men's bathroom.
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Feb 6, 2024 15:50
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CommieGIR posted:That's different, however again, Encrypted DNS means their proxies see nothing but the initial handshake with whoever you chose to provide your DNS past that point. And Comcast doesn't ding you for just visiting banned sites (again proving that while they can see the plaintext request, their 'ban' is superficial at best). And one thing we saw with the Tiktok ban - kids will most certainly learn how to setup DNS alternatives and encrypted DNS to get their tiktoks. One wrinkle here is that I wouldn't be surprised if TiKTok relies on ISP-level caching deals to provide that kind of UX. I'm not convinced the App can even work at scale as designed without that kind of cooperation. At least as of today, that is. Infrastructure WILL obviously catch up eventually. But there may be a practical ban feasible for a window of time.
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