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No eating or drinking or other mask removal. I have a beard and I worry about fit because of that. I'm also worried that I coughed and fiddled with mask fit too much, etc, and created gaps in the fit while doing that stuff. I recognize that's lower risk than pretending that eating is a safety zone or whatever, but it still would've reduced the quality of my fit. Edit: what a snipe!
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# ? Feb 8, 2024 21:01 |
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# ? May 27, 2024 02:37 |
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TBH I'm feeling good about lozenges and nose sprays. Protecting and enhancing the mucosal defenses is probably the best an individual can do, so if you have to open up because you're on the spreadsheet, titers+mucosal immunity+mucosal barrier is going to go a long way to keep you safe.
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# ? Feb 8, 2024 21:04 |
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lmao potentially a 4 loving week trial. And no nullification for me, this would be more along the lines of a multimillion dollar payout to an individual from a corporation. It looks like I can go a long while without eating, drinking or removing my mask, though. Now it's just a matter of how else can they get me e: 650 ppm in the waiting area, and sub-600 in the courtroom (they kept the door open). Way better than I expected. WrasslorMonkey has issued a correction as of 21:53 on Feb 8, 2024 |
# ? Feb 8, 2024 21:31 |
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you get on that jury, and you get that person paid
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# ? Feb 8, 2024 21:35 |
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https://x.com/1goodtern/status/1755494099103154222?s=46 new study saying long COVID brain changes usually become noticeable a month after infection in kids tern seems to think brain changes 4 weeks post COVID, heart and abdomen 6 weeks
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# ? Feb 8, 2024 21:39 |
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Anne Whateley posted:Fwiw I have the same exposure level pretty often (but with glasses) and I’ve never gotten it while I was masked. I wouldn’t worry as much, unless you’re on an immunosuppressant or you did one of those “I wore a mask (except while eating)” things. I agree. I was sitting in a small office with a visibly sick student and two visibly sick teachers while trying to troubleshoot the teacher's PC earlier. I've been exposed to many sick people over the last several weeks and haven't gotten sick. I wear the KN95 ear loop respirators people here hate so much and even with a subpar mask I haven't gotten covid. I have sick people breathing on me all day and it's done its job. Trust in your respirator.
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# ? Feb 8, 2024 22:27 |
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It is interesting to read this piece from the perspective of boomers. https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/08/health/aging-discrimation-kff-partner-wellness/index.html posted:Thousands of seniors are still dying of Covid-19. Do we not care anymore? I completely agree that it is disgusting, but reading it I cannot help but consider my interactions with my own parents (both boomers) and how getting them to wear a loving mask has been an impossible struggle. If you value your life less than your normalcy, how can you expect others to value your life more than their normalcy? If you pathologize the people trying to work against the pandemic, why do you expect people to still give a poo poo? I won't blame the victim. I just really wish the boomers gave more of a poo poo themselves.
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# ? Feb 8, 2024 22:36 |
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Steve Yun posted:https://x.com/1goodtern/status/1755494099103154222?s=46 This is extremely disturbing. Ah well, nevertheless, applebees
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# ? Feb 8, 2024 22:46 |
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Steve Yun posted:https://x.com/1goodtern/status/1755494099103154222?s=46 The student in the room with me today was getting coaching on how to remember their school work. I overheard the teacher suggest using a personal calendar. I don't have any history on anyone here but I wonder...
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# ? Feb 8, 2024 22:50 |
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Strep Vote posted:TBH I'm feeling good about lozenges and nose sprays. Protecting and enhancing the mucosal defenses is probably the best an individual can do, so if you have to open up because you're on the spreadsheet, titers+mucosal immunity+mucosal barrier is going to go a long way to keep you safe. What lozenges and sprays do you use?
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# ? Feb 8, 2024 22:51 |
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my company is forcing a bunch of engineers into the office and giving them a desk but that's all. no mouse, keyboard or monitors. no ethernet drops. no power strips.
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# ? Feb 8, 2024 23:07 |
Alright Atrocious Joe, I'll bite and just lol and lmao at you a little here because you're saying some really stupid stuff. Here are some questions that I hope can guide you toward truth. Namaste and lol lmao goatse whatever you need. If you want further reading, just ask. Atrocious Joe posted:The blows against public health in the US have been dealt through challenging the state's ability to enforce mask mandates or lack of will to enforce already enshrined workers' protections. You need to go back one step in your analysis. Who did the challenging? With what tactics? To what end? Basically, who are you hiding with the passive voice here? Now, what actually happened to kill public health and what would we have needed to prevent it? Would more police and prisons have helped us? What has been the effect of police and prisons on the pandemic? quote:Racialized mass incarceration in the US is a specific policy that must be combated. Its continued existence is a crime against humanity. However, coercive state power in itself is not obsolete until exploiting classes no longer exist. Ah yes, the only possible coercive power: policing and incarceration. After all, that's the only reason people refrain from doing anything! Definitely stops crimes! In seriousness though, let's go further anyway: from when does policing originate and what problem was it solving? Who has been served by police powers and who has been bound by them? Why? Now that you know some poo poo and maybe read a book or two: What do you think police are for? What do you think they should be for? Given the history and structural precursors and consequences of police, do you think this is a realistic expectation to reform towards? Possible followup questions: Why is the relationship between police resourcing and social wellbeing inverted? If police and carceral institutions keep getting more and more of our resources, why do they always need more? What are those resources actually for since they get used and don't produce any socially positive results? quote:The Palestine organizing anecdote was about how the rhetoric of inclusivity and disability rights can be weaponized against health very quickly if there is not a deeper understanding and set policies even in activist spaces with relatively high levels of consciousness. Like, most Palestinian diaspora spaces I've been in don't even have masks present. I agree with this but would argue that these folks have a high level of consciousness of the fads and not of the actual concepts involved in being a leftist. It takes only a moment to plan the meeting to be safe from the airborne hazard and accessible to people with hearing issues. Like nobody offered to scribe for this person or anything? loving sad, worse sense of community than many middle schoolers.
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# ? Feb 8, 2024 23:14 |
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This isn't particularly surprising and is barely news worthy, if it wasn't because so many people have been through similar circumstances. It should be noted that the cohort is from a clinic for neurorehabilitation and were in extended ICU and mechanical ventilation. "Reduced health-related quality of life, fatigue, anxiety and depression affect COVID-19 patients in the long-term after chronic critical illness" https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-024-52908-5 posted:Abstract
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# ? Feb 8, 2024 23:31 |
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I've always found it disappointing that when China could no longer maintain zero covid, instead of pointing to the material problems of how impossible the task was to maintain in the face of the rest of the world actively failing and that they should continue to do as much as they could, the rhetoric immediately hard reversed into "MILD! OVER!" the same as everyone else.
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# ? Feb 8, 2024 23:31 |
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Shiroc posted:I've always found it disappointing that when China could no longer maintain zero covid, instead of pointing to the material problems of how impossible the task was to maintain in the face of the rest of the world actively failing and that they should continue to do as much as they could, the rhetoric immediately hard reversed into "MILD! OVER!" the same as everyone else. Yep, and everyone shifted even faster than our "it's mild now" about face. Having a working memory and object permanence is so weird these days.
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# ? Feb 8, 2024 23:46 |
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Pingui posted:lol, you don't say? Related to the above: https://www.muckrock.com/news/archi...h-certificates/ posted:Two years after admitting to us that he ‘doesn’t do COVID deaths,’ Missouri coroner criminally charged with lying on death certificates
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# ? Feb 8, 2024 23:46 |
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Piece of research drawing direct biological parallels between ME/CFS and long COVID (for the PASC cohort exhibiting ME/CFS). Pretty important stuff, not least because they have some amino acids to target. Beyond that I also want to highlight the markers for gut products leaking into the blood, which seems like a very important finding considering gut infections. "Metabolomic and immune alterations in long COVID patients with chronic fatigue syndrome" https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/immunology/articles/10.3389/fimmu.2024.1341843/full posted:Introduction: A group of SARS-CoV-2 infected individuals present lingering symptoms, defined as long COVID (LC), that may last months or years post the onset of acute disease. A portion of LC patients have symptoms similar to myalgic encephalomyelitis or chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS), which results in a substantial reduction in their quality of life. A better understanding of the pathophysiology of LC, in particular, ME/CFS is urgently needed. News article on the matter: https://medicalxpress.com/news/2024-02-telltale-amino-acid-deficiencies-key.html posted:In research recently published in Frontiers in Immunology, the team reports that a disproportionate number of people affected—nearly 70%—are female and face debilitating symptoms that are identical to chronic fatigue syndrome, now referred to as myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome or ME/CFS. Blood samples show telltale amino acid deficiencies, suggesting readily available supplements have potential as therapy.
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# ? Feb 9, 2024 00:06 |
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Silent Linguist posted:What lozenges and sprays do you use? I'm hype on betadine/carrageenan nose spray and currently researching on S. salivarius as a probiotic that has its own antimicrobial secretions and may stimulate local mucosal immunity. I still wear a purple breatheteq though. I like my current homeostasis a lot.
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# ? Feb 9, 2024 00:08 |
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Strep Vote posted:I'm hype on betadine/carrageenan nose spray and currently researching on S. salivarius as a probiotic that has its own antimicrobial secretions and may stimulate local mucosal immunity. I still wear a purple breatheteq though. I like my current homeostasis a lot. the main k12 probiotic I use for me and my kid keeps on getting sold out on Amazon so my kid uses it since it’s for 3 and up and I bought a bottle of Burst probiotics with k12 which is for adults. talked to my kids Dr and she was like it’s fine whatever . my poor spouse has been in the ER 2x this year already with a virus but urine, blood, and other tests rule out Covid RSV and flu so I wonder if her Covid infection about a year ago has had something to do with it. however with more viruses just running around due to population level T cell dysfunction who knows but she may be back on team mask at work.
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# ? Feb 9, 2024 00:47 |
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carageen spray has kept me covid free for three days so far.
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# ? Feb 9, 2024 00:57 |
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Pingui posted:I completely agree that it is disgusting, but reading it I cannot help but consider my interactions with my own parents (both boomers) and how getting them to wear a loving mask has been an impossible struggle. If you value your life less than your normalcy, how can you expect others to value your life more than their normalcy? If you pathologize the people trying to work against the pandemic, why do you expect people to still give a poo poo? My dad had a heart attack in November, somehow avoided covid despite a two day hospital stay, and still won't mask up. I've made peace with it, but it's still immensely frustrating.
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# ? Feb 9, 2024 01:03 |
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I have to do a minor procedure next month. When I was talking to the PA, I mentioned being concerned about it, she very fluidly went into talking about sedation risks but when I clarified that my actual concern was about needing to be unmasked for it, I could see the gears grinding as she needed to switch over to a concern that had clearly never come up before. e: The place was requiring masks for right now. She talked about how last summer they weren't so people did whatever they felt comfortable with and some did and didn't. She never said what she did explicitly, buuuuuut I think I know. She did say that they might not need to remove the mask for it but to make it clear what I want and that they should respect it. Love medical care. Shiroc has issued a correction as of 01:42 on Feb 9, 2024 |
# ? Feb 9, 2024 01:38 |
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I have to have an implant post put in on Monday. I average 4-5 dental visits a year and I’ve been lucky so far but luck doesn’t last forever.
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# ? Feb 9, 2024 01:40 |
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Hello plague thread! Been out of the loop for a while. Need a bit of thread wisdom. I haven't had a shot since the ol' days of the OG Covid vaccines back in 2021. Turns out the Mexican government really hosed up and/or gave up on booster distribution after a solid initial push for vaccination. Still somehow Covid free (or fully asymptomatic if I did catch it) by some miracle of biology or masking in public, who can say. Anyway, Covid vaccines are finally widely available to the public at local pharmacies. They have both Moderna and Pfizer. Any studies available on the efficacy of these two or is it close enough not to matter which I get?
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# ? Feb 9, 2024 01:42 |
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Ojetor posted:Hello plague thread! Been out of the loop for a while. Need a bit of thread wisdom. As long as they're the newest ones, Moderna is probably still marginally better between the two but if you can get Novavax it is probably the best of all.
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# ? Feb 9, 2024 01:43 |
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Silent Linguist posted:What lozenges and sprays do you use? not OP but in the plaguelands of Florida I am currently using Flo for the nasal spray and Now OralBiotic as the lozenge. I do both every morning no matter what I'm up to, and then do an additional 2x lozenges and a nasal spray when I get home if I'm out doing a relatively risky activity (going to work, seeing friends/family, hitting the bar, etc). if I know I'm going to be out of the house for an extended period of time, I bring the nasal spray along with me for a midday top off.
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# ? Feb 9, 2024 01:44 |
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Steve Yun posted:https://x.com/1goodtern/status/1755494099103154222?s=46 this is loving horrifying which state wanted to send kids back to school after 1 day of infection? lmao
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# ? Feb 9, 2024 02:17 |
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Ojetor posted:(..) Not gonna lie, the efficacy comparisons between the different vaccines are extremely lackluster. Best I can give you is this very recent CDC analysis: https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/73/wr/mm7304a2.htm?s_cid=mm7304a2_w posted:Early Estimates of Updated 2023–2024 (Monovalent XBB.1.5) COVID-19 Vaccine Effectiveness Against Symptomatic SARS-CoV-2 Infection Attributable to Co-Circulating Omicron Variants Among Immunocompetent Adults — Increasing Community Access to Testing Program, United States, September 2023–January 2024 Based on the data we have the most important thing is that you get an updated shot, but if you absolutely want a preference in order of apparent protection it goes: 1) Novavax, 2) Moderna and 3) Pfizer. Generally people experience worse side effects with Moderna though, in which case people prefer Pfizer over Moderna. What little difference there may be between the mRNAs isn't worth being laid flat for a day or more, if you can avoid it.
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# ? Feb 9, 2024 03:14 |
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toggle posted:this is loving horrifying California and Oregon I believe.
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# ? Feb 9, 2024 03:15 |
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tuyop posted:Alright Atrocious Joe, I'll bite and just lol and lmao at you a little here because you're saying some really stupid stuff. Police and all "special bodies of armed men" emerge from class antagonism and engage in the class struggle on the side of the ruling class. Up until socialist revolutions starting in 1917, police were always on the side of the exploiting classes to defend their class rule. After 1917 we saw the emergence of socialist states with police forces that defended the working classes. In capitalist countries, the wrong people are in jail and prison. If the revolution happens tomorrow we will open the prisons. But what do we do with the politicians aiding and abetting the genocide in Gaza. What do we do with the corporate sickos that attacked and dismantled the public health infrastructure of the US. Occasionally capitalist states will have a law enforced by police that is progressive and helpful for workers. They enforce it not to help working people, but to keep the system stable enough to keep exploitation going. The whole reason for public health was to compete with the opposing program of socialist states that had major public health victories like the USSR and China. At the end of the day, public health will have some sort of coercive component for years even after working people take power. We can look at China, the DPRK, and Cuba today and see that is true. Coercion becomes a lesser component, but it's still there. Also genuinely: do you have advice for how to better organize working people around public health and forward those resources. I was at a public hearing yesterday on police policy won by progressive groups in my city that had none of those accessibility options. Masks were not mandatory. It was in a Black church in one of the most depressed parts of the city. I was the only person in an N95, and most people weren't wearing masks. How do we better talk to our communities to embrace and fight for public health. Working people in this country are not taught to organize for their own power. We have to learn it on our own. That will sometimes mean making mistakes middle schoolers could avoid. I am often frustrated around masking policies in progressive spaces, but calling organizers children for being mistaken seems so hateful and pessimistic. Atrocious Joe has issued a correction as of 03:19 on Feb 9, 2024 |
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Shiroc posted:As long as they're the newest ones, Moderna is probably still marginally better between the two but if you can get Novavax it is probably the best of all. Pingui posted:Based on the data we have the most important thing is that you get an updated shot, but if you absolutely want a preference in order of apparent protection it goes: 1) Novavax, 2) Moderna and 3) Pfizer. Generally people experience worse side effects with Moderna though, in which case people prefer Pfizer over Moderna. What little difference there may be between the mRNAs isn't worth being laid flat for a day or more, if you can avoid it. Novavax is approved for medical use in Mexico but not yet approved for sale to the public, unfortunately. Moderna it is, then. I'm getting it tomorrow after work so even if it lays me down a day or two it won't affect much, I was planning on binging Infinite Wealth over the weekend anyway. Thanks a bunch!
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# ? Feb 9, 2024 03:44 |
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Ojetor posted:Novavax is approved for medical use in Mexico but not yet approved for sale to the public, unfortunately. Moderna it is, then. I'm getting it tomorrow after work so even if it lays me down a day or two it won't affect much, I was planning on binging Infinite Wealth over the weekend anyway.
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# ? Feb 9, 2024 03:46 |
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Ojetor posted:Novavax is approved for medical use in Mexico but not yet approved for sale to the public, unfortunately. Moderna it is, then. I'm getting it tomorrow after work so even if it lays me down a day or two it won't affect much, I was planning on binging Infinite Wealth over the weekend anyway. another thread success story and no spreadsheets were involved
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# ? Feb 9, 2024 04:03 |
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You admitted to not wearing masks due to perceived peer pressure but apparently getting made fun of by us helped. I also recommend learning to be able to express any leftist ideals in ways that don’t turn into rambling and dull history lessons in that conditions of the Soviet Revolution because nobody cares who isn’t already in your book group.
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# ? Feb 9, 2024 04:07 |
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Shiroc posted:As long as they're the newest ones, Moderna is probably still marginally better between the two but if you can get Novavax it is probably the best of all. I heard that Novavax was better so I went out of my way to find it. The only place that had it locally to me was a CVS in a Target and they were surprised I asked for it. It took extra time to get my shot because they had to find a vial that wasn't expired
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# ? Feb 9, 2024 04:13 |
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Shiroc posted:You admitted to not wearing masks due to perceived peer pressure but apparently getting made fun of by us helped.
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# ? Feb 9, 2024 04:23 |
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Listen. Everybody loves in-fighting... BUT...
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# ? Feb 9, 2024 04:25 |
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"there will immediately be a perfect society after the revolution" definitely screams someone that needs to join a book club tbqh
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# ? Feb 9, 2024 04:35 |
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Personally I look forward to my rehabilitation by labor and if my proletarian overseers put a little too much boot into me in the process well let's be fair folks I probably deserve it
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# ? Feb 9, 2024 04:38 |
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# ? May 27, 2024 02:37 |
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No: Building relationships and rapport with people so there become shared norms, principles and trust in order to build a stable core that can grow and motivate others, adapting to the circumstances and resources available. Yes: Carefully planning out the exact form of the post revolutionary state and making sure it follows the principles and needs of 1919 Russia
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# ? Feb 9, 2024 04:45 |