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i didnt look at it but why do we need another configuration thingy. or is this a programing language for generating configuration thingys. just use xml
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Bloody posted:i didnt look at it but why do we need another configuration thingy. or is this a programing language for generating configuration thingys. just use xml web "developers" will invent 10000 new failed markup languages rather than use something existing that works.
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Feb 7, 2024 02:22
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i have been told that part of why pkl is being released to the public is that it's hit the point inside apple where it would be a gigantic pain to migrate away from it and so they're confident they're going to be stuck maintaining it for the foreseeable future regardless that is like thirdhand information though
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Feb 7, 2024 03:24
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Bloody posted:i didnt look at it but why do we need another configuration thingy. or is this a programing language for generating configuration thingys. just use xml it's for generating things, so you mean "just use xslt"
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Feb 7, 2024 03:58
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i do think its extremely funny that pkl has swift codegen but no xcode support not even apple developers want to build poo poo for xcode. i assume they just open vscode to write pkl even if they're using its output in xcode
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Feb 7, 2024 04:01
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abraham linksys posted:i do think its extremely funny that pkl has swift codegen but no xcode support from everything i've heard about xcode, this is a wise and pragmatic decision
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Feb 7, 2024 04:06
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redleader posted:from everything i've heard about xcode, this is a wise and pragmatic decision it’s the itunes of ides
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Feb 7, 2024 04:19
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rjmccall posted:brb, filing a radar to add openmp support to tkl just for you the system works
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Feb 7, 2024 05:56
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Visions of Valerie posted:ah good, bindings for java, kotlin, swift, and go. you know, the languages people use the languages people use where types and convenience matter, at least? if you use a plang then you can just shell out to the command line tool to generate json or yaml. if you use c++ or rust then you have chosen the path of suffering and deserve no sympathy.
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Feb 7, 2024 09:16
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Soricidus posted:the languages people use where types and convenience matter, at least? if you use a plang then you can just shell out to the command line tool to generate json or yaml. if you use c++ or rust then you have chosen the path of suffering and deserve no sympathy. if I wanted to use shell for things I'd be writing shell 
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Feb 7, 2024 10:40
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i don't think i understand the workflow that leads to this mapping being important really.
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Feb 7, 2024 10:49
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if pkl starts to matter, someone will write a serde module for it before I have to care
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Feb 7, 2024 21:12
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so both my kids learn coding in school and this pharmacist at work wants to move into the field (seems like a bad move job security wise) anyway I was just thinking because of this, kids should start with shenzen io
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Feb 8, 2024 00:06
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kids should start with a simple but terrible programming language and then spend the rest of their lives unlearning the bad habits they acquired from it. go sounds like a good option
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Feb 8, 2024 00:14
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DELETE CASCADE posted:kids should start with a simple but terrible programming language and then spend the rest of their lives unlearning the bad habits they acquired from it. go sounds like a good option
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Feb 8, 2024 00:15
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mystes posted:Start kids with c and make them think they always need to implement all data structures from scratch each time to convince them that programming sucks and scare them away i'm the hosed up one who started with c when i was like 12 and enjoyed implementing data structures a lot and welp
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Feb 8, 2024 00:47
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mystes posted:Start kids with c and make them think they always need to implement all data structures from scratch each time to convince them that programming sucks and scare them away data structures are a mistake. everything that's not an array or packed struct is an affront to god
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Feb 8, 2024 01:37
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teach kids prolog first so they can destroy with facts & logic
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Feb 8, 2024 03:24
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teach kids logo start with turtles and all the attendant benefits then teach them the rest of the language and slowly, carefully inoculate them against becoming lispers by showing them a better homoiconic functional lang first
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Feb 8, 2024 03:47
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teach kids msp430 assembly. just cuz
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Feb 8, 2024 04:21
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teach 'em MUMPS, if that doesn't scare them off computer touching nothing will
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Feb 8, 2024 05:27
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kids have an overwhelming number of options to learn programming now if they want to.
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Feb 8, 2024 05:52
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yeah so that’s why curiously wondering if it’s helpful or not to teach them how computers work first
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Feb 8, 2024 06:15
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they don't work, that's the beauty of it
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Feb 8, 2024 06:20
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echinopsis posted:so both my kids learn coding in school and this pharmacist at work wants to move into the field (seems like a bad move job security wise) have they ever heard of "redstone" ?
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Feb 8, 2024 07:40
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isn’t that a tool you replicate cpu’s in?
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Feb 8, 2024 07:42
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yes
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Dijkstracula posted:they don't work, that's the beauty of it
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Visions of Valerie posted:data structures are a mistake. everything that's not an array or packed struct is an affront to god arrays and packed structs are data structures
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Feb 8, 2024 15:59
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my kid’s first programming language was Turing, for which the Windows-only software was last updated on the day that one of her classmates was born (she is 16) this year is Java, which she’s a little more excited about, and for which I am certain that the tooling will be better
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Feb 8, 2024 23:49
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Subjunctive posted:this year is Java, which she’s a little more excited about, and for which I am certain that the tooling will be better are you frequently disappointed, then?
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Visions of Valerie posted:are you frequently disappointed, then? well, I reflect on my own work and contributions to society, so yes but in this case the thing she was using before would crash 1 out of ~5 times she tried to run a program, so I feel good about the prediction jetbrains, it’s your time to shine
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Feb 9, 2024 02:42
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Subjunctive posted:well, I reflect on my own work and contributions to society, so yes James Cordy is still updating his implementation of Turing+, mostly in furtherance of TXL I think (which itself was finally made open source in late 2022), but it's just a traditional command line toolchain, absolutely not the attempt at the educational user-friendly tooling that original Turing was aiming for.
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Subjunctive posted:well, I reflect on my own work and contributions to society, so yes here's hoping they teach some relatively recent version of java and not like java 1.5.
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Wheany posted:here's hoping they teach some relatively recent version of java and not like java 1.5. j2ee
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Internet Janitor posted:teach kids logo this is how you make a Lisper, it doesn’t inoculate, it foments “what if you had a language like Logo, but without the warts that are there to make it a ‘teaching language’ instead of a real language?” so please teach more Logo, it’s truly the best way to learn programming
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Feb 9, 2024 11:51
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leper khan posted:arrays and packed structs are data structures not quite they’re representations of data structures!
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Subjunctive posted:my kid’s first programming language was Turing, for which the Windows-only software was last updated on the day that one of her classmates was born (she is 16) she can learn without taking a class in school, too you should send her a pointer to Racket
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Feb 9, 2024 11:55
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To quote Data.Array:quote:arrays, which may be thought of as functions whose domains are isomorphic to contiguous subsets of the integers
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Wheany posted:here's hoping they teach some relatively recent version of java and not like java 1.5. Java 1.1 and AWT are perfectly sufficient for learning programming at a trade school otherwise stick with the tried and true SICP using Scheme
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