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Panfilo posted:
This is extraordinarily depraved but will somehow be treated as a nothing burger. Our new normal sucks.
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“He was put down so he wouldn’t hurt himself or anyone else,” said Sliwa, who has admitted in the past that he has fabricated stories of criminal behavior to sensationalize the issue of immigration.
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Feb 8, 2024 13:24
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Don’t forget that this guy was the GOP mayoral candidate last go around in NYC
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PhazonLink posted:
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Sekhmnet posted:Holy lawsuits batman! Fox Executives: Look after the Dominion Lawsuit, we have to be so careful over what we do. Want can't eat another costly Law Suit. Sean Hannity: Hey guys we just captured this amazing footage, we need to broadcast it right now!
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The Question IRL posted:Fox Executives: Look after the Dominion Lawsuit, we have to be so careful over what we do. Want can't eat another costly Law Suit. I'd be amazed if Hannity suffers any professional blowback from this.
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Also turns out not a migrant https://bsky.app/profile/kenwhite.bsky.social/post/3kkux5el7xu2p Though you’ll have to click on a Bluesky link to find out the victim is the only one being charged
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Ambitious Spider posted:Also turns out not a migrant
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The Islamic Shock posted:The NYPD admitted they have no evidence on a brown guy having committed the crime he presumably got the poo poo beaten out of him for, the evidence for assault and battery by a bunch of white guys is not exactly hard to obtain, and of course that happens It's hard out there when you've got that blue flu and are being pressured by the higher ups. Not to mention the fine upstanding citizens who accused him are probably known to you, so you gotta take their word for it.
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Meant to post that video yesterday but forgot. The guy they assaulted looks Asian. And Hannity just glosses over it and goes on to bitching about Harris. https://twitter.com/ndrew_lawrence/status/1755061838352396558
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Tucker Carlson traveling halfway around the world just to get owned by the dictator he worships is a pretty expensive trip https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1755757290953515479
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That interview really didnt make him look as good as he wanted it to.
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It's a very interesting trait for Putin that whenever he knows he's going to be recorded in a room with someone, he clearly gets research staff to set up some intimidation or sick own for him to "establish dominance." Speaks to his internal culture.
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Vova in a lot of ways is the big tough daddy that Trump and the MAGA crew want Trump to be. Even more so before his oopsie two years ago cracked the glass.
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Angry_Ed posted:Tucker Carlson traveling halfway around the world just to get owned by the dictator he worships is a pretty expensive trip Heartbreaking: the worst person you know closes the circle and completes the ego death and professional implosion of tucker carlson that was set in motion October 15, 2004
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I do wonder why liberals don't do this either. Certainly stunts like this have an impact on conservatives. https://twitter.com/IDoTheThinking/status/1755785375451378028?t=aFEPzP6UPdEi9PpwFEdkNg&s=19
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Panfilo posted:I do wonder why liberals don't do this either. Certainly stunts like this have an impact on conservatives. It's because this trick only works on conservatives. Liberals enjoy at least the appearance of empathy, so their response would be "oh no, that's awful, someone should do something to help those people  " and then go back to their regular lives. Like, in that case, the "target" isn't the suffering people, it's the vague power structure that leads to the poverty and drug use, and that's a way hazier foe to rally against.With conservatives, the target is absolutely the suffering people. "Ugh, look at all these homeless and druggies! The police really need to roll through this neighborhood in tanks to Clean Up The Streets."
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Panfilo posted:I do wonder why liberals don't do this either. Certainly stunts like this have an impact on conservatives. Liberals look down on those people as getting their just deserts for voting for conservatives.
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OgNar posted:That interview really didnt make him look as good as he wanted it to. Was there anything even interesting or redeemable? Asking about the mercenary insurrection of last year? How he sees the Russian state and silovki going on after himself?
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Star Man posted:Liberals look down on those people as getting their just deserts for voting for conservatives. This seems to be the reason they're too chicken to do this. "If we point out how terrible red cities are it might upset white people that considered voting for us!".
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Panfilo posted:I do wonder why liberals don't do this either. Certainly stunts like this have an impact on conservatives. It doesn't work as well on people who view tragedy with empathy instead of internal gloating about the presumed conditions of your tribal enemy
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Panfilo posted:I do wonder why liberals don't do this either. Certainly stunts like this have an impact on conservatives. There are a lot of reasons that liberals (and I would say leftists too) don't do this: 1. The left space is much more fractured in ideology. Conservatives are not. 2. Grievance culture of right means if we went to say, the opioid ridden rural Ohio, the media would rail on this as being Democrats trying to make fun of everyday Americans. 3. The Daily Show does this in a way at MAGA events and say look at the stupid people and it never really moves the needle on anything. 4. Mean spiritedness doesn't drive people to the polls.
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It also validates their tactics. You don't fight the monster on their terms using their rules.
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Star Man posted:Liberals look down on those people as getting their just deserts for voting for conservatives. So much projection in this thread
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Conservatives love to punch down. Most Dems/leftists don’t.
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lol Tiny Ben probably has a security detail off screen.
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His hand does not move from the lock button on the car door for the entire drive.
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big mean giraffe posted:So much projection in this thread Have you met other liberals and leftists? A huge cohort of them would love nothing more than for them to have their faces eaten by the leopards they voted for--literally if possible. There is no shortage of left-facing people who think anyone that votes conservative, is a bigot, or has whatever they deem to be regressive points of view gets what they deserve. Anyone who is stuck in those places that are victims of regressive policy are considered acceptable collateral. Anyone advocating that progressive policy should also benefit regressives are laughed out of the room.
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big mean giraffe posted:So much projection in this thread
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I'm a little let down by Putin's interview, I expected more out of a former KBG Agent not a crusty old bitter historian? And Sharpio is really hitting the "rich guy in a car, being driven in the city" trope.
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Gucci Loafers posted:I'm a little let down by Putin's interview, I expected more out of a former KBG Agent not a crusty old bitter historian? And Sharpio is really hitting the "rich guy in a car, being driven in the city" trope. Reminder that Putin's time in the KGB was spent collecting press clippings, shredding documents, and schmoozing with dignitaries.
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Gucci Loafers posted:I'm a little let down by Putin's interview, I expected more out of a former KBG Agent not a crusty old bitter historian? And Sharpio is really hitting the "rich guy in a car, being driven in the city" trope. Putin has big "everyone around me in the last quarter century knows i might just kill them if i don't like them" energy
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i still think one of the better political logic razors is Putin is a great tactician but poor strategist.
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i never get tired of these loving morons RTing obvious Bot accounts https://twitter.com/JoeyMannarinoUS/status/1755037977439531211?t=yp0lYv27y1dzDqC-y-m3aQ&s=19
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Star Man posted:Have you met other liberals and leftists? A huge cohort of them would love nothing more than for them to have their faces eaten by the leopards they voted for--literally if possible. Most people advocating progressive policies are advocating for things that would be universal so I'm not sure how bolded works and I think you're full of poo poo tbh
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Professor Beetus posted:Most people advocating progressive policies are advocating for things that would be universal so I'm not sure how bolded works and I think you're full of poo poo tbh I have seen people bitch about disaster funding going to red states any time there's a flood or hurricane in them. I dunno what to tell you man, it's definitely A Thing that people view their political opponents as undeserving of what they themselves feel entitled to. It's not that nuts of a concept--people pick teams for politics, much more than they examine policy and values. How many people do you know who have the exact same politics (or near enough) as their parents, vs. people who have gone completely in a different direction? I'd say in my experience the ratio is like 80/20. That's not evidence of people carefully considering the issues.
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selec posted:I have seen people bitch about disaster funding going to red states any time there's a flood or hurricane in them. I dunno what to tell you man, it's definitely A Thing that people view their political opponents as undeserving of what they themselves feel entitled to. It's not that nuts of a concept--people pick teams for politics, much more than they examine policy and values. How many people do you know who have the exact same politics (or near enough) as their parents, vs. people who have gone completely in a different direction? I'd say in my experience the ratio is like 80/20. That's not evidence of people carefully considering the issues. The initial assertion was that most conservatives like to punch down and that leftists/libs don't. I don't think you have to look any further than the difference between media outlets like fox/oan etc and CNN or other center/center right media to see there is a pretty wide gulf. I think most people are seeing this poo poo on Twitter or hearing people in their circle say it, which, imo, is not indicative of a widespread problem. I don't see any evidence beyond people's anecdotes that "the left" likes to punch down as hard as the right. e: in fact I've seen many leftists on SA push the idea that if you provide people material benefits than they will vote for people providing them, and that social issues are a distraction. Which isn't born out by the evidence which shows that tRumps base is primarily upper middle class white people living comfortably who are nonetheless driven by bigotry and fear Professor Beetus fucked around with this message at 22:07 on Feb 9, 2024 |
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Professor Beetus posted:The initial assertion was that most conservatives like to punch down and that leftists/libs don't. I don't think you have to look any further than the difference between media outlets like fox/oan etc and CNN or other center/center right media to see there is a pretty wide gulf. I think most people are seeing this poo poo on Twitter or hearing people in their circle say it, which, imo, is not indicative of a widespread problem. I don't see any evidence beyond people's anecdotes that "the left" likes to punch down as hard as the right. Idk what to tell you besides you’re lucky to not have encountered punch-down libs or leftists I guess. People are assholes sometimes even when they have Good Politics.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Idk what to tell you besides you’re lucky to not have encountered punch-down libs or leftists I guess. People are assholes sometimes even when they have Good Politics. I mean the key word being "most" is what I am disputing, I think that's a claim that actually requires some evidence. I have definitely met folks like that and I have not been above having the occasional bad thought or saying something lovely out of frustration. It's meaningfully different from the right wing, which regularly pushes punching down rhetoric in its media and filters down into regular right wing views and politics. It's a driver of their political philosophies. That is not the same as some wine mom on Twitter mouthing off about dumfuckistan or whatever.
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Yeah the argument isn't that there's no audience for that kind of thing on the left. The argument is that there's less of an audience than there is on the right that allows it to be such an effective mainstream propaganda tool. You can basically go with one of two theories. Either its not a thing on the left to a wide degree because the values of the left are such that they make it broadly distasteful. Or there's functionally no difference between the values of people on the left and the right and everyone on the left is just too stupid to use these tools because of virtue signaling or something. I think that with podcasts and youtube and all obviously the audience that DOES exist is louder and there are people on the left engaging in it either as creators or consumers. And those people are more likely to take the stance that there's nothing wrong what they're doing and anyone who says anything like "punching down" are just full of poo poo. Or that anyone who doesn't engage with this stuff are out of touch instead of acknowledging they're own bubble of stuff.
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