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The Dave
Sep 9, 2003

Yeah while they have been knocking literally everything out of the park the music is just doing things on an ethereal plane.

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Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

DeathChicken posted:

That scene after everyone falls on Mt Nibel is pretty great, with Sephiroth staring blankly for like two seconds and then making a genuine effort to save everyone

I actually read that scene as him being kind of half-hearted about it and going through the motions. Like he knows he should save those people but doesn't feel a strong impulse to do so. Like it's loving Sephiroth, the guy can leap like 30 feet into the air, I'm pretty sure he could have done more than reach out an arm for the remaining soldier.

I'm not saying that he was completely cold to it, but more just sort of confused and like "oh yeah I guess it'd be bad if they died and I should do something about this?"

edit: I completely missed Tifa's house in the demo lol (and thus the minigame). Gonna do the early part again at some point to find it.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


I just wanna say that I think Cloud's VA does some really incredible, subtle work in the demo.

Unlucky7
Jul 11, 2006

Fallen Rib

Arist posted:

I just wanna say that I think Cloud's VA does some really incredible, subtle work in the demo.

My favorite line reading in the last game was a voice line that happens from Cloud if Tifa dies in battle: "I can fix this" :ohdear:

RuBisCO
May 1, 2009

This is definitely not a lie



Arist posted:

I just wanna say that I think Cloud's VA does some really incredible, subtle work in the demo.

I know you probably mean the thing but my favourite is his sheepish admission that he rummaged through Tifa's stuff.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


that is also very good, yes

Thundercracker
Jun 25, 2004

Proudly serving the Ruinous Powers since as a veteran of the long war.
College Slice

Gologle posted:

You know, in retrospect, having a move you call "Hell's Gate" that also emits dark energy when you use it should have tipped off the therapist at Shinra that something wasn't quite right.

There's a post office near me called Hell Gate. Maybe he's just a big fan of New York.

Jetrauben
Sep 7, 2011
angered the evil eye lately

DeathChicken posted:

That scene after everyone falls on Mt Nibel is pretty great, with Sephiroth staring blankly for like two seconds and then making a genuine effort to save everyone

And then his haunted look after he can't save the one dude. :(

MH Knights
Aug 4, 2007

RuBisCO posted:

I know you probably mean the thing but my favourite is his sheepish admission that he rummaged through Tifa's stuff.

YOU rear end in a top hat!

Caidin
Oct 29, 2011

RuBisCO posted:

I know you probably mean the thing but my favourite is his sheepish admission that he rummaged through Tifa's stuff.

You know Clouds telling the legit version of events because why else would he admit to doing things like this besides a commitment to accuracy and detail.

Terper
Jun 26, 2012


These poll numbers are hosed up

bobjr
Oct 16, 2012

Roose is loose.
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If yuffie heard the story she would have supported cloud going into her room

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

bobjr posted:

If yuffie heard the story she would have supported cloud going into her room

Not unless he was stealing Tifa's materia.

Popy
Feb 19, 2008

im not a big spoilers guy, but what ive sorta heard from ppl with advance copies of FF7r-2 i think for the first time since MGS5/Witcher 3 this is gonna be a game i play in the complete dark disconnected from the internet

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

Terper posted:

These poll numbers are hosed up

Yeah wtf

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost
I earnestly look forward to playing this on Steam in 2025 or whatever but I know I'm not going to be able to hide from whatever unfathomably dumb twists they add to the plot in the intervening 12 months

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


You mean unfathomably good

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

I wonder, considering all the blackouts, if it'd make sense to have a spoiler thread once the game comes out so people can actually use the thread without worrying about someone spoiling if Tifa kills Sephiroth.

Funky Valentine
Feb 26, 2014

Dojyaa~an

Final Fantasy VII Rebirth SPOILER Thread: Defense of the Ancient 2

Rich Uncle Chet
Jan 20, 2005


The Law? Law is a Human Institution.


ImpAtom posted:

I wonder, considering all the blackouts, if it'd make sense to have a spoiler thread once the game comes out so people can actually use the thread without worrying about someone spoiling if Tifa kills Sephiroth.

Tifa kills Sepiroth in the original if you're using the correct endgame party setup :colbert:

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Funky Valentine posted:

Final Fantasy VII Rebirth SPOILER Thread: Defense of the Ancient 2

If I had my choice I'd go for "Final Fantasy VII Rebrith SPOILER Thread: Aerith Dies?

Gologle
Apr 15, 2013

The Gologle Posting Experience.

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TIFA KILLS SEPHIROTH????

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Sapozhnik posted:

I earnestly look forward to playing this on Steam in 2025 or whatever but I know I'm not going to be able to hide from whatever unfathomably dumb twists they add to the plot in the intervening 12 months

The PS5 exclusivity is only until May 29, so hopefully sooner.

Actually I just remembered one thing I wont like about rebirth. Can't play as Cid. fuckin bullshit

HD DAD
Jan 13, 2010

Generic white guy.

Toilet Rascal
Sephiroth skewers every playable character at once except Aerith. Part 3’s party is Aerith, Cid, Vincent, and Lightning.

Super No Vacancy
Jul 26, 2012

ff7 fortnite plans leaked. cant decide whether to make a first soldier joke or tifa fortnite porn reference

SyntheticPolygon
Dec 20, 2013

Congrats to Fortnite

C. Everett Koop
Aug 18, 2008

Super No Vacancy posted:

ff7 fortnite plans leaked. cant decide whether to make a first soldier joke or tifa fortnite porn reference

tifa gets railed outside of the italian senate

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost

Dreylad posted:

The PS5 exclusivity is only until May 29, so hopefully sooner.

Is there a source for that? Wikipedia says something that that effect but the article it cites makes no such claim.

I figured that since FFXVI has been out for something like a year now and is still exclusive then 7R2 wasn't going to show up any time soon.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Sapozhnik posted:

Is there a source for that? Wikipedia says something that that effect but the article it cites makes no such claim.

I figured that since FFXVI has been out for something like a year now and is still exclusive then 7R2 wasn't going to show up any time soon.

Heithinn Grasida
Mar 28, 2005

...must attack and fall upon them with a gallant bearing and a fearless heart, and, if possible, vanquish and destroy them, even though they have for armour the shells of a certain fish, that they say are harder than diamonds, and in place of swords wield trenchant blades of Damascus steel...

The Dave posted:

Yeah while they have been knocking literally everything out of the park the music is just doing things on an ethereal plane.

The only thing that clearly put me off in the demo was the visuals — it was hard to see what was going on sometimes the lighting made some of the environments unimpressive. Everything else was outstanding, though, and the music in particular really stood out as being on a different level. I almost wish I didn’t play the demo, because it’s going to be hard to play anything else.

Legin Noslen
Sep 9, 2004
Fortified with Rhiboflavin
As someone currently replaying Remake I have to say I wholeheartedly disagree with people saying the Rebirth demo's visuals look bad. They are very much a step up from Remake, from the environmental and secondary character's designs to the overall presentation.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

Jetrauben posted:

And then his haunted look after he can't save the one dude. :(

I interpreted that more as him just not knowing how to react. Like he knows what happened was bad but doesn't feel a lot about it.

Like Sephiroth wasn't always evil or anything, but he was always kind of estranged/detached from most other people (and what connection he felt with people like Angeal/Genesis was largely related to them also being "different" like himself). While there was definitely a lot of Jenova manipulation going on in the later events in Nibelheim, it was still built off of an existing feeling of estrangement from "normal people."

I feel like this makes more sense than "guy who is normal (but just kind of awkward/shy) and cares about other people normally" just suddenly going full murder mode after learning he's the product of an experiment. Instead existing feelings of estrangement/detachment were transformed into something darker.

biceps crimes
Apr 12, 2008


Sephiroth is clearly traumatized and needed help. It’s a tragedy

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

biceps crimes posted:

Sephiroth is clearly traumatized and needed help. It’s a tragedy

Oh the world we'd be in if instead of reacting to the revelation of his creation with "It is my destiny to rule the planet", Sephiroth instead went "I am going to burn Shinra to the ground" and focused his rage on the real cause of everyone's problems.

Bushmaori
Mar 8, 2009
How much is said about Jenova's influence over Sephiroth anyway? I don't remember it being mentioned, but being open to her more murdery power when he was desperate could have been a contributing factor.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Bushmaori posted:

How much is said about Jenova's influence over Sephiroth anyway? I don't remember it being mentioned, but being open to her more murdery power when he was desperate could have been a contributing factor.

It is strongly implied that proximity to Jenova is what set him off. I always read it as 'the combo of the mutant im the pod and Jenova's name opened a crack in his mental defenses that Jenova promptly cracked like am egg'

worm girl
Feb 12, 2022

Can you hear it too?

Bushmaori posted:

How much is said about Jenova's influence over Sephiroth anyway? I don't remember it being mentioned, but being open to her more murdery power when he was desperate could have been a contributing factor.

This varies between the original and the EU stuff. In the original, he seemed to be almost completely under her control, or at least they were working toward a shared purpose, though he may be influencing her to make him a god (by wiping out all life) rather than just doing what she was sent for, which was to wipe out all life. In the EU stuff, he's in the driver's seat and she's just a force of nature he's manipulating.

I like The Thing pretending to be a war hero a lot better than Smirking Unkillable Anime Prettyboy #3223676 with yet another superpower. It's such an interesting inversion of the trope it helped popularize, but alas EU stuff ruined everything by misinterpreting Sephiroth as a main character, and that appears to have carried over to the remakes. The original reveal that he's been dead the entire time and the "Sephiroth" we're seeing walk around is just a shapeshifting meat monster is really cool.


Spoilered because I can't be assed to look up the thread's policy on spoiling a 30 year old game.

Blackbelt Bobman
Jul 17, 2004

I don't need friends! I've been
manipulatin' you since the start!
All so I can something,
something X-Blade!


Dreylad posted:

The PS5 exclusivity is only until May 29, so hopefully sooner.

Actually I just remembered one thing I wont like about rebirth. Can't play as Cid. fuckin bullshit

They had to save playable characters for the third part!

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

Sapozhnik posted:

Is there a source for that? Wikipedia says something that that effect but the article it cites makes no such claim.

I figured that since FFXVI has been out for something like a year now and is still exclusive then 7R2 wasn't going to show up any time soon.

My guess is that FFXVI will come out on PC shortly after the second DLC releases.

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Gologle
Apr 15, 2013

The Gologle Posting Experience.

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I've been wondering this since Remake, and it's only gotten more intriguing as things go: Will Sephiroth be redeemed by the end of the remake series?

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