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Captain Theron
Mar 22, 2010

EoinCannon posted:

In think people were throwing around alt Australian flag details and he copied the indigenous flag and made it pastel. I think he staunchly defended the concept, as is his style.

Lol, yeah, that tracks.

Edit: what a lovely snipe. Here's an update from our newest national monument:
https://twitter.com/batshit_auspol/status/1756981746120458706?t=dU8Lj7_CIr6P0G0kfcssPw&s=19

Captain Theron fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Feb 13, 2024

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BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

For me, it wasn't just his ugly pastel coloured appropriation of the Aboriginal flag.

It was the way he doubled down on it as genius. And a marvelous representation of the unique Australian landscape, (despite it not having any colours commonly seen outside in Aus.) And refused to understand how racist it was to steal the indigenous flag, how ugly his flag was, and how many other people were angry with him for being stupid.

Just a dense, dense self unaware pile of poo. That continued on and on.

Although, I do wonder what his next obsession will be. We've had 1,000,000 word articles about Q, we've had scribbling lines on a map of Sydney, what will he solve next?

sick of Applebees
Nov 7, 2008
Can we decide the next obsession by poll?

Captain Theron
Mar 22, 2010

I'm sure energy infrastructure will be one, that always brings out the best insane screeds.

Coward
Sep 10, 2009

I say we take off and surrender unconditionally from orbit.

It's the only way to be sure



.

Bucky Fullminster posted:

It is blindingly obvious to me and I’m somewhat surprised that it isn’t to more people.

I think this is basically the key to all of Bucky's posting.

Bucky Fullminster
Apr 13, 2007

Anidav posted:

Isnt London a shitzone though

Right, and even with the lovely zones, people are still willing to ride in the wet, thereby disproving Recoome's lazy attempt at a point. Imagine the numbers we'd see if they had a superhighway that didn't force them to share space with cars.

Electric Wrigglies posted:

active transportation will gain way more people if it is to cover off the last km on an electric bike to a train or a bus that whizzes them 16 km each morning to work. Electric bikes should hopefully really drive up metro usage as the "last km" public transport has always been a huge gap in Aus.

Well it's a good thing that connecting existing public transport stops and providing good routes around them is ingrained in the DNA of the plan.

Getting 16 km to work isn't the only use-case we need to consider. It's about how people move around in their communities. To school or the supermarket. With a good network, we can replace cars for a good chunk of trips. Also 16 km is a very ridable distance anyway.

Stop thinking in terms of binaries, like "it is for THIS". It's for a whole bunch of things.

EoinCannon posted:

I reckon escooters will attract more people cos you can easily get them on a train and just hop on and off them and fracture your skull and break your wrists. They're the first share vehicle scheme I've seen catch on in Melbourne.

Yep, we call them bike-paths out of habit, but it's important to remember they're actually MUPs, Multi-Use Paths, for all kinds of modes, and it looks like zippy little e-scooters are shaping up to be a pretty big part of that too, for better or worse. As well as walkers and wheelchairs of course. I tried a shared scooter scheme in Adelaide, and found the speed limit to be prohibitively slow, and the relative cost prohibitively high.

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

I lost braincells reading that rightwing style anti public transport vomit. Just stop.

(Yes spend billions on Metros and more rail and buses. Best solution for late night shiftworker going home. Spend as much as possible on actual solutions that work. I like cars but gently caress cars for commuting, Public Transport with bike last kms is by far the best)

Also a RAISED pathway that will increase the already steepish incline on Market St for cycling let alone all the other reasons it wont happen you just cant be serious. This has to be a long form troll I cant even try to entertain some sort of legit reply

gee if if only we'd figured out a way to address incline issues at some point in the last thousand years, oh well, "seven traffic lights to bring all perpendicular city traffic to a halt while we cross" it is.

By your logic, the rigorous interrogation the superhighway plan has been put through is rightwing style anti-cycling vomit. If you can't answer basic and important questions about your supposedly superior plan then maybe it's not so superior after all.

Another thing - this "public transport network" you want to spend billions of dollars on, does it do anything for Urban Cargo Deliveries, or is it more of an exclusively "passenger" thing? Is it good for parents doing the school run? Does it take them from door to door? What about grocery shopping? Nice and easy for that too?

That said, the Metro rules. It's so drat fast, and straight, and clean and quiet and cool, and seems to be pretty well-used. I'm all about minimising interruptions with intersections, and that's exactly what the metro does. Most of the construction IS out of the way (apart form the building some of the stations), and so is the operation. The difference is, it does it by throwing an eye-watering stream of hundred-dollar bills into the coalface, and I think those tunnels might be beyond the skillset of the army reserve.



If you can build the thing on the right, don't tell me we can't build the thing on the left. And obviously, obviously, it should at least connect from Tallowong to Schofields. Here this guy has some ideas for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy7KRLWCPwo

Captain Theron posted:

So, uh, what's the story about Bucky and the indigenous flag? He decided to unilaterally redesign it or something?

I offered a suggestion for a simple and elegant solution to a real and pertinent problem, and as usual the thread lost its poo poo while completely failing to offer any alternatives. Because they are hell-bent on racistly repeating the mistake this colony has made since its inception, which is to ignore first nations' design principles.

That's probably why they're so opposed to using the ancient technology of flat ground and walkable trails too.

Bucky Fullminster fucked around with this message at 07:22 on Feb 13, 2024

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008

Say what you will about Bucky, it looks like he gets results.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2024-02-13/new-life-for-abattoirs-branch-bridge-over-m4-parramatta-road/103460052

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


Bucky Fullminster posted:


I offered a suggestion for a simple and elegant solution to a real and pertinent problem, and as usual the thread lost its poo poo while completely failing to offer any alternatives. Because they are hell-bent on racistly repeating the mistake this colony has made since its inception, which is to ignore first nations' design principles.

That's probably why they're so opposed to using the ancient technology of flat ground and walkable trails too.

With people skills like that I'm sure you'll win the premier over instantly and absolutely not have to be dragged away by security.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

Lmao Bucky got loving scooped

Pack it in Bucky, you have wasted your time.

E: Andrew Moss is the guy who got this done - take note Bucks

Recoome fucked around with this message at 08:22 on Feb 13, 2024

do it on my face
Feb 6, 2005
°

Bucky Fullminster posted:

I offered a suggestion for a simple and elegant solution to a real and pertinent problem, and as usual the thread lost its poo poo while completely failing to offer any alternatives. Because they are hell-bent on racistly repeating the mistake this colony has made since its inception, which is to ignore first nations' design principles.

Yeast
Dec 25, 2006

$1900 Grande Latte
Very good

Pleasant Friend
Dec 30, 2008

I support Australia getting a new flag, but only so long as it breaks all the 'good flag design' rules and makes stuffy flag nerds mad.

Make Australia's flag look like a casino carpet.

Regular Wario
Mar 27, 2010

Slippery Tilde

Pleasant Friend posted:

I support Australia getting a new flag, but only so long as it breaks all the 'good flag design' rules and makes stuffy flag nerds mad.

Make Australia's flag look like a casino carpet.

Dark navy with purple and cyan flecks with a black velvet kangaroo in the middle

Lube Enthusiast
May 26, 2016

Bucky Fullminster posted:

Right, and even with the lovely zones, people are still willing to ride in the wet, thereby disproving Recoome's lazy attempt at a point. Imagine the numbers we'd see if they had a superhighway that didn't force them to share space with cars.

Well it's a good thing that connecting existing public transport stops and providing good routes around them is ingrained in the DNA of the plan.

Getting 16 km to work isn't the only use-case we need to consider. It's about how people move around in their communities. To school or the supermarket. With a good network, we can replace cars for a good chunk of trips. Also 16 km is a very ridable distance anyway.

Stop thinking in terms of binaries, like "it is for THIS". It's for a whole bunch of things.

Yep, we call them bike-paths out of habit, but it's important to remember they're actually MUPs, Multi-Use Paths, for all kinds of modes, and it looks like zippy little e-scooters are shaping up to be a pretty big part of that too, for better or worse. As well as walkers and wheelchairs of course. I tried a shared scooter scheme in Adelaide, and found the speed limit to be prohibitively slow, and the relative cost prohibitively high.

gee if if only we'd figured out a way to address incline issues at some point in the last thousand years, oh well, "seven traffic lights to bring all perpendicular city traffic to a halt while we cross" it is.

By your logic, the rigorous interrogation the superhighway plan has been put through is rightwing style anti-cycling vomit. If you can't answer basic and important questions about your supposedly superior plan then maybe it's not so superior after all.

Another thing - this "public transport network" you want to spend billions of dollars on, does it do anything for Urban Cargo Deliveries, or is it more of an exclusively "passenger" thing? Is it good for parents doing the school run? Does it take them from door to door? What about grocery shopping? Nice and easy for that too?

That said, the Metro rules. It's so drat fast, and straight, and clean and quiet and cool, and seems to be pretty well-used. I'm all about minimising interruptions with intersections, and that's exactly what the metro does. Most of the construction IS out of the way (apart form the building some of the stations), and so is the operation. The difference is, it does it by throwing an eye-watering stream of hundred-dollar bills into the coalface, and I think those tunnels might be beyond the skillset of the army reserve.



If you can build the thing on the right, don't tell me we can't build the thing on the left. And obviously, obviously, it should at least connect from Tallowong to Schofields. Here this guy has some ideas for you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dy7KRLWCPwo

I offered a suggestion for a simple and elegant solution to a real and pertinent problem, and as usual the thread lost its poo poo while completely failing to offer any alternatives. Because they are hell-bent on racistly repeating the mistake this colony has made since its inception, which is to ignore first nations' design principles.

That's probably why they're so opposed to using the ancient technology of flat ground and walkable trails too.

Wow really

Electric Wrigglies
Feb 6, 2015

Captain Theron posted:

I'm sure energy infrastructure will be one, that always brings out the best insane screeds.

He may come back to it but Bucky was on energy infrastructure over a decade ago. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3505076

Captain Theron
Mar 22, 2010

Electric Wrigglies posted:

He may come back to it but Bucky was on energy infrastructure over a decade ago. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3505076

Lol, of course he was.

What if we cover the superhighway in solar panels overhead? That way we generate power and keep all the cyclists dry in the rain. It's so blindingly obvious I'm surprised Bucky hasn't mentioned it previously.

Konomex
Oct 25, 2010

a whiteman who has some authority over others, who not only hasn't raped anyone, or stared at them creepily...
Can we get one of those cool pennant flags that only Nepal has? Simultaneously ruining their position as the only country to have a non-quadrilateral flag and making us different from the other countries.

CAT INTERCEPTOR
Nov 9, 2004

Basically a male Margaret Thatcher

Oh look an actual well thought out plan that has a proper destination, links to existing routes and would get used. This will also link to Parramatta river cycle lanes and also to Concord West and create a link from Sydney Airport to Parramatta via bike and pedestrian path. While some of the bike paths are foul IMO after Sydney Airport, it actually gives you a viable cycling route from Taylor's Square / Oxford St to Westmead via the south. That also gives you a route from Taren Point as well to Parramatta.

Bravo to Mr Moss, this is exactly what is required and so so so well thought out.

quote:

By your logic, the rigorous interrogation the superhighway plan has been put through is rightwing style anti-cycling vomit. If you can't answer basic and important questions about your supposedly superior plan then maybe it's not so superior after all.

Stop wasting our time.

CAT INTERCEPTOR fucked around with this message at 10:17 on Feb 13, 2024

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

3/10 no stackhat

Bucky Fullminster
Apr 13, 2007

CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:

an actual well thought out plan that has a proper destination, links to existing routes and would get used. This will also link to Parramatta river cycle lanes and also to Concord West and create a link from Sydney Airport to Parramatta via bike and pedestrian path. While some of the bike paths are foul IMO after Sydney Airport, it actually gives you a viable cycling route from Taylor's Square / Oxford St to Westmead via the south. That also gives you a route from Taren Point as well to Parramatta.

Bravo to Mr Moss, this is exactly what is required and so so so well thought out.

yeah man that's a nice and important little section of the network, glad to hear you're on board

birdstrike
Oct 30, 2008

i;m gay

Bucky Fullminster posted:

yeah man that's a nice and important little section of the network, glad to hear you're on board


Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.
The Sydney Superhighway has literally just been build Bucks, time to move on my friend

ssmagus
Apr 2, 2010
Assmagus, LPer ass-traordinaire
I like to remind people on all sides that you have the power to :coupons:

Can we just take these pisstakes out of here, it's not even interesting or funny, just repeating the same poo poo for the last 2 months

hambeet
Sep 13, 2002

ssmagus posted:

I like to remind people on all sides that you have the power to :coupons:

Can we just take these pisstakes out of here, it's not even interesting or funny, just repeating the same poo poo for the last 2 months

I’m sorry, you need to offer an alternative or he’s right. That’s how it works.

Recoome
Nov 9, 2013

Matter of fact, I'm salty now.

ssmagus posted:

I like to remind people on all sides that you have the power to :coupons:

Can we just take these pisstakes out of here, it's not even interesting or funny, just repeating the same poo poo for the last 2 months

Ignoring is shameful and demonstrates your insufficient posting power

alf_pogs
Feb 15, 2012


ugly but funny that as soon as Bucky takes a break from posting we get some pretty insane antisemitic stuff as a sort of intermission

Lube Enthusiast
May 26, 2016

Bucky would you care to explain this?

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug
bucky i hope your dreams come true and you get the bike path (or a bike path, or any of the bike path) constructed because even though you sound like charlie day standing infront of a wall covered in red string you have a plan to make the world better

ssmagus
Apr 2, 2010
Assmagus, LPer ass-traordinaire
Hey look it's a pointless pisstake just to create a reaction

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug

this is extremely funny however

Chicken Parmigiana
Sep 12, 2007

GoldStandardConure posted:

bucky i hope your dreams come true and you get the bike path (or a bike path, or any of the bike path) constructed because even though you sound like charlie day standing infront of a wall covered in red string you have a plan to make the world better

Bucky I hope your plans open the Lament Configuration

Anidav
Feb 25, 2010

ahhh fuck its the rats again
I use the Brisbane Velocity 1 super bike highway and despite every entrance to it having red signs saying bikes and scooters only old people still walk their dogs on it while packs of 30 cyclists pass them.

Rougey
Oct 24, 2013

Recoome posted:

Lmao Bucky got loving scooped
I've seen behind the curtain and there are so many designs sitting on shelves collecting dust until there is the political drive and/or money to get them done... then more often than not plans for cycleways get turned it gets turned into a shared path because it's cheaper.

Eediot Jedi
Dec 25, 2007

This is where I begin to speculate what being a
man of my word costs me

Anidav posted:

I use the Brisbane Velocity 1 super bike highway and despite every entrance to it having red signs saying bikes and scooters only old people still walk their dogs on it while packs of 30 cyclists pass them.

tbf even pet owners pay rego

GoldStandardConure
Jun 11, 2010

I have to kill fast
and mayflies too slow

Pillbug

Chicken Parmigiana posted:

Bucky I hope your plans open the Lament Configuration


same. either option sounds good.

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

Reuters posted:

Carbon capture tech a 'complete falsehood', says Fortescue Metals chairman

PARIS, Feb 13 (Reuters) - Carbon capture is not a solution for the energy transition and political leaders need to provide real, non-greenwashed, commitments to encourage investment, Andrew Forrest, executive chairman of Fortescue Metals, said on Tuesday.

Speaking at the 50th anniversary meeting of the International Energy Agency, Australian billionaire Forrest said the investment community needs a level-playing field and honest answers from political leaders on phasing out fossil fuels in order to invest. "There's a simple question from business leaders...when do we stop burning fossil fuels?" Forrest said at the Paris conference. "If you want to drive capital...we must have clear and obvious disincentives for what is doing harm and clear incentives for what is doing good."

Countries including the U.S. have rolled out public subsidies for carbon capture and storage (CCS) projects as part of their incentives to push the green energy transition. CCS technologies capture carbon dioxide emissions, often from a source like a factory smoke stack, to prevent them from being released into the atmosphere. The captured CO2 can then be stored permanently underground, or repurposed in industrial processes that use CO2. Oil demand growth is not set to peak until the end of this decade at the earliest and Forrest said carbon capture was not a viable solution. "We're going to keep burning fossil fuels and somehow magically get rid of the carbon down into the ground where there is no proof that it will stay there, but heaps of proof that it fails," Forrest told the conference.

"I say for policy makers everywhere do not be the next idiot waiting for the old lie to be trotted out and say I believe in carbon sequestration. It has only failed for 75 years...It's a complete falsehood." Australia's Fortescue is a major iron ore producer, which is used in steel-making and it announced a new project last year to produce green steel on a commercial scale. Iron and steel-making account for a major share of global heavy industry emissions, and its trade has become source of contention between the United States and the EU, which have so far failed to negotiate a "green steel" trade deal.

:unsmigghh:

hooman
Oct 11, 2007

This guy seems legit.
Fun Shoe

Guardian AU posted:

Nationals leader asks Barnaby Joyce to consider taking personal leave

David Littleproud has confirmed he has asked Barnaby Joyce to consider taking personal leave. This comes after Joyce was filmed lying on a Canberra street speaking profanities into his phone late on Wednesday night. Joyce has blamed the incident on mixing prescription medication with alcohol.

Littleproud told the ABC early this morning he wanted Joyce to take time to deal with some issues in his private life.

:auspol:

NPR Journalizard
Feb 14, 2008


Billionaire says "Pay me or I will keep doing the poo poo that I know is harming the planet"

fucken sociopaths

kirbysuperstar
Nov 11, 2012

Let the fools who stand before us be destroyed by the power you and I possess.
Hey can someone link me that one Andrew Bolt comic real quick

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The Artificial Kid
Feb 22, 2002
Plibble

NPR Journalizard posted:

Billionaire says "Pay me or I will keep doing the poo poo that I know is harming the planet"

fucken sociopaths

I’ll take a sociopath saying “for god’s sake don’t let me kill again” over the ones saying “we need to make involuntary euthanasia mandatory so that philanthropists such as myself can continue to enrich the world through slaughter”.

I know Forrest has just seen a way to make money off climate change, but that’s better than actively trying to obfuscate climate change and extend fossil fuel use.

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