Leviathan Song posted:

There's no way that map is accurate. Olympic National Park in Washington has huge swaths of unlogged old growth rain forest that don't show up on it. There's national forest land that was unfortunately not protected but Olympic National Park is big enough that it should show up on that map.

https://www.nps.gov/articles/loggingolympicwwii.htm#:~:text=The%20Hoh%20River%20and%20Bogachiel,land%20known%20as%20Queets%20Corridor.
https://www.ijpr.org/show/the-jefferson-exchange/2022-10-04/wed-8-30-researchers-make-a-map-of-all-old-growth-forest-in-lower-48
https://www.oldgrowthforest.net/washington

Leperflesh posted:

Hmm.

Anne Whateley posted:

May I direct the thread’s attention to Arctic Ascent, a new National Geographic series (on Disney+ or your parents’ cable). Alex Honnold, with climbers Hazel Findlay and Mikey Schaefer, lead a group up a huge fuckoff rock wall in Greenland to do climate science. It’s more responsible than Free Solo in that they’re roped in and belaying each other. Everything else about the location and specifics is way worse, like having to walk 100 miles to even get to the mountain, avoiding murder icicles and polar bears, and dealing with lovely crumbling rock the whole climb.

Anne Whateley posted:

May I direct the thread’s attention to Arctic Ascent, a new National Geographic series (on Disney+ or your parents’ cable). Alex Honnold, with climbers Hazel Findlay and Mikey Schaefer, lead a group up a huge fuckoff rock wall in Greenland to do climate science. It’s more responsible than Free Solo in that they’re roped in and belaying each other. Everything else about the location and specifics is way worse, like having to walk 100 miles to even get to the mountain, avoiding murder icicles and polar bears, and dealing with lovely crumbling rock the whole climb.

Bip Roberts posted:

"To do climate science" lol

Anne Whateley posted:

I’m not 100% sold either, but it does seem to be the way to get core samples from 1000 feet up the side of a sheer cliff

Leperflesh posted:

Cactus Ghost posted:

greenland is one of the last places on earth with tons of legit majorly challenging peaks that have no known summits. its weird to think about but antartica is in some ways more accessible, and overall way less mountainous

gohuskies posted:

Climate scientists do need ice samples from deep in old ice. I've never heard about them needing it from high up a cliff.

Cactus Ghost posted:

greenland is one of the last places on earth with tons of legit majorly challenging peaks that have no known summits. its weird to think about but antartica is in some ways more accessible, and overall way less mountainous

Outrail posted:

There are no unknown summits on Greenland there's satellite photography of the entire island.

it's the pointy bit at the top of the mountain

Outrail posted:

There are no unknown summits on Greenland there's satellite photography of the entire island.

it's the pointy bit at the top of the mountain

Chrpno posted:

errr "summits" as meaning "someone's climbed them"

DurianGray posted:

Antarctica still has its own extreme-sports-related horrors, like polar thigh (probably don't look at the pictures if you're eating or plan to eat in the near future).

https://explorersweb.com/polar-thigh-antarctica/

Anne Whateley posted:

So now I’ve watched it, the scientist on the trip did explain the need for core samples from their practice cliff, but then (unless I looked away at the wrong moment) they didn’t do samples from the main cliff.

Realistically, I think we know the main benefit to climate science is the number of eyes on the documentary plus whatever level of funding NatGeo was involved in. They did take the opportunity to do some neat and hopefully useful stuff on the way, like using LIDAR to detect the depth of ice, dropping off a robot that measures water stats, and taking time-lapse photography to see how fast the ice pack is moving.

Another interesting thing is that as soon as Honnold showed up, I was like “holy poo poo he looks so old now, how old is he???” and it turns out he’s my age

BAGS FLY AT NOON posted:

I watched the first two eps so far and Hazel Findlay does some crazy rear end Tomb Raider poo poo

DurianGray posted:

Antarctica still has its own extreme-sports-related horrors, like polar thigh (probably don't look at the pictures if you're eating or plan to eat in the near future).

https://explorersweb.com/polar-thigh-antarctica/

Big Bowie Bonanza posted:

My instagram reels have been giving me probably every 8-10 swipes videos of dead Everest climbers

Big Bowie Bonanza posted:

My instagram reels have been giving me probably every 8-10 swipes videos of dead Everest climbers

hot cocoa on the couch posted:

was the climbing cool>?

Empty Sandwich posted:

really compelling article about a guy who skied incredibly dangerous locations until the inevitable sank in and he quit.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2024/jan/30/precipice-of-fear-the-freerider-who-took-skiing-to-its-limits

uncertainty posted:

I enjoyed watching the show, it has some really impressive footage, but unless I missed something some of the narrative seemed insultingly dumb?

Like them having to climb a wall and then travel through scary crevasse area to then take a boat with a bunch of other people who just happened to be there???

hemale in pain posted:

Loads of shows do that and it's very dumb. There was some bad paranormal thing where the host was told by the locals he had to be ALONE to communicate with the spirits, and he kept going on about how he was by himself now but.... there's a camera man. he's moving the camera as you run around. you're not alone. AGHHHHGGHHGGGGGG

Eeyo posted:

I watched the first episode of the Greenland climbing thing.

So why can't they just like fly a helicopter to the top of that big glacier and then just go down? Does it not work like that?

Also who is holding the camera, they say it's a 6-person expedition but there's someone magically above the climbers getting some sick shots and IDK how they got up there. Unless it's a drone?

ilmucche posted:

Survivorman was great for that. Multiple episodes he would complain about having to take care of the camera equipment or end up taking it apart for parts.

There was one episode I think in the tundra where he sets up a camera and basically goes "I'm going to get a great shot of me walking away over those hills in the distance. Then I'm going to have to come back to collect the camera" and they speed up the shot to see him come all the way back

Anne Whateley posted:

They’re 100% using drones for some of the shots. There could also be hidden camera people, idk, but drones are definitely in use.

I figure a helicopter isn’t a great plan for the same reasons it isn’t on Everest? That said, they’re definitely misleading in the beginning about the accessibility, how they have to walk 100 miles to get to the big cliff…but then at the base of the big cliff, they’re met by supply boats

Elukka posted:

I'm guessing another reason is that they're mountain climbers who want to climb mountains.