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Declan MacManus posted:sorry hope you enjoy paying $12.99 a month so you can see #12 smu get fuckin ethered by #5 penn state at 4 pm on a thursday exclusively on fox sports Hey, an improvement over the general assumption that Penn State is going to perpetually be the #12 team that staggers into the playoffs year in and year out
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LeeMajors posted:Yeah but your ascendancy as a program has matched with the NIL era and excitement around Heupel. My dude, getting to or near the mountaintop is not normal. It’s not what this sport, or being a fan of this sport, is like. Win some, lose some, enjoy watching better teams in the playoff every season is how the vast majority of the programs are the vast majority of the time. Even if you get a good season, you know you probably won’t get another one. It’s still fun. It’s not like Florida’s going 3-9 or anything. Remember that you are rear end, and to rear end you shall return. It is the way of things.
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Thermos H Christ posted:My dude, getting to or near the mountaintop is not normal. It’s not what this sport, or being a fan of this sport, is like. Win some, lose some, enjoy watching better teams in the playoff every season is how the vast majority of the programs are the vast majority of the time. Even if you get a good season, you know you probably won’t get another one. It’s still fun. It’s not like Florida’s going 3-9 or anything. Remember that you are rear end, and to rear end you shall return. It is the way of things. Oh, yeah, no doubt. I’m realistic about that. Doesn’t mean I have to like it.
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Thermos H Christ posted:My dude, getting to or near the mountaintop is not normal. It’s not what this sport, or being a fan of this sport, is like. Win some, lose some, enjoy watching better teams in the playoff every season is how the vast majority of the programs are the vast majority of the time. Even if you get a good season, you know you probably won’t get another one. It’s still fun. It’s not like Florida’s going 3-9 or anything. Remember that you are rear end, and to rear end you shall return. It is the way of things. No matter how bad it gets, I am always like at least I got to experience my team going to the mountaintop at least once in my life. As someone who is old enough to be a fan during the 90's run of the Vols, that thought alone helped get through the post-Fulmer years many times. It could be worse, I could be a UK or South Carolina fan.
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WVU is going to wear all black uniforms for a "coal rush" week 1 against Penn State. The contrast between Penn State's all whites is cool, but honestly, West Virginia needs to move beyond its coal mining identity.
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Komet posted:WVU is going to wear all black uniforms for a "coal rush" week 1 against Penn State. The contrast between Penn State's all whites is cool, but honestly, West Virginia needs to move beyond its coal mining identity. I think they’ve made it clear that they collectively Will Not.
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Feb 14, 2024 18:58
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Komet posted:WVU is going to wear all black uniforms for a "coal rush" week 1 against Penn State. The contrast between Penn State's all whites is cool, but honestly, West Virginia needs to move beyond its coal mining identity. Move beyond it to what, even more abject poverty? Just one giant oxy warehouse?
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General Dog posted:Move beyond it to what, even more abject poverty? Biosphere death is the most abject poverty there is.
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Jesco White Day sounds like a gameday plan to me for WVA.
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LeeMajors posted:Biosphere death is the most abject poverty there is. Well, there’s no avoiding that; all anyone can do is try to save enough money that they’ll eat a few weeks longer than their neighbors when things really go bad.
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General Dog posted:Move beyond it to what, even more abject poverty? Just one giant oxy warehouse? The University of West Virginia Learn to Coders
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General Dog posted:Move beyond it to what, even more abject poverty? Just one giant oxy warehouse? There are only like 10,000 coal miners left in the entire state. Fifty years ago, it was 100,000. All the less expensive and easy-to-get coal has been mined out of the state, and most of what's left can only be accessed via strip-mining, and that's largely mechanized. Coal isn't any cheaper than renewable energy production at this point. West Virginia is making huge investments into tourism. It generated over $5B last year and growing every year, which is greater than similarly sized mountain states such as Vermont and New Hampshire. With rural broadband investment, the state is beginning to attract skilled laborers that can work remotely and choose the state for its outdoors amenities. There's still a reasonable amount of agriculture and other manufacturing. WV needs to think strategically about the future, but coal mining still looms large on the state's psyche.
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dphi posted:So did Lagway get the majority of the NIL pool or does he just really love UF? A little of both. He's touted as a faster, more accurate, albeit less powerful version of Anthony Richardson. Loves the play action and mobile play
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Komet posted:There are only like 10,000 coal miners left in the entire state. Fifty years ago, it was 100,000. All the less expensive and easy-to-get coal has been mined out of the state, and most of what's left can only be accessed via strip-mining, and that's largely mechanized. Coal isn't any cheaper than renewable energy production at this point.  Is this just like an attempted dunk on the state as a whole because of the upcoming game or what
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Instead of mining coal they should be mining crypto
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Fifty Three posted:What if all that money they invested into tourism means they actually are thinking strategically about the future and using their coal mining history to craft a folksy outdoorsy image has, actually, worked First of all, I'm West Virginian, so despite me rooting to for Penn State to beat WVU, I have a vested interest in the state. And it's true that the investment in tourism is strategic thinking, but that doesn't mean that rank and file West Virginians don't still believe coal is essential to the future of the state. Mega64 posted:Instead of mining coal they should be mining crypto You joke, but my parents' county commission rejected a permit to build a crypto mining facility nearby. Dumdums were like "it'll bring tech jobs!!!" but actually after the facility gets built, it just drains a ton of water and electricity and causes electric prices in the county to surge because of increased demand.
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Komet posted:There are only like 10,000 coal miners left in the entire state. Fifty years ago, it was 100,000. All the less expensive and easy-to-get coal has been mined out of the state, and most of what's left can only be accessed via strip-mining, and that's largely mechanized. Coal isn't any cheaper than renewable energy production at this point. So you're broad point about the declining importance of coal to WV is correct, but you've got lots of errors in your details my friend. About 82% of WV coal is produced in underground mines. Not surface. About half of the coal produced in WV is for coke production, not power generation, so relative price with renewable is irrelevant. And most of that power generation coal is high enough quality it could be used for coke if they wanted to. WV also has the second largest coal reserves in the country behind on Wyoming. Like yes it's not as important economically to the state as it once was. And yes the industry will continue to contract. But it won't happen quickly, and it's still one of the most important sources for the world's highest quality coal. WV produces the majority of the coking coal used in US steel mills. And none of this touches on the historical and cultural importance of coal to the state. I'm a mining engineer who worked in WV mines early in my career. You can make fun of people from WV identifying so much with coal mining, but it's a very real cultural phenomenon out there.
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This is one of the best offseason derails I've ever seen and I'm actually 100% interested. Goons with nuanced opinions ITT
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Seaniqua posted:This is one of the best offseason derails I've ever seen and I'm actually 100% interested. Goons with nuanced opinions ITT Yes, I learned something today. I wonder if WV is also doing any PR around the end-use of their coal as being for coke rather than power generation. That would change perceptions somewhat over the entire mining industry there.
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Mega64 posted:Instead of mining coal they should be mining crypto texas did this. and was so desperate to attract 'tech' to the state, they have contracts where they have to pay the miners when they have to ask them to conserve energy. our state run by free market capitalist is so loving stupid that the agreements result in miners making more money conserving energy than mining crypto: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bitcoi...%20the%20state.
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Coke is made in Colombia, not WV
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kayakyakr posted:Yes, I learned something today. mine owners love people hating their mines, because they turn that into "liberals hate miners!" and away we go, dividing the classes
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kayakyakr posted:Yes, I learned something today. As of my last visit home (Wyoming county), not really. People still assume power generation. I heard from more than a few people that the rise of EVs would ‘bring back’ coal, if you want a regular person’s view on it.
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Yeah I don't think most people even know coal is an important raw material for steel. Trying to say that "our coal is metallurgical coal so it's OK" would take a lot of education to land as a PR effort.JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:the culture war aspect of coal-mining benefits west virginia capital much more so 1000 times this. It's not in the interest of coal companies to educate the general public on the real nuances of the industry. Especially in Appalachia.
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Komet posted:WVU is going to wear all black uniforms for a "coal rush" week 1 against Penn State. The contrast between Penn State's all whites is cool, but honestly, West Virginia needs to move beyond its coal mining identity. Imo Penn State should move on from its kid diddling identity by shutting down its football program.
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drunk leprechaun posted:About half of the coal produced in WV is for coke production, not power generation, so relative price with renewable is irrelevant. But for how much longer though? https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidrvetter/2021/08/19/how-sweden-delivered-the-worlds-first-fossil-fuel-free-steel/?sh=2aa243d96b55
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Penn State should move on from its Nittany Lion identity after they killed and skinned the last remaining one to make the mascot
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Komet posted:But for how much longer though? https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidrvetter/2021/08/19/how-sweden-delivered-the-worlds-first-fossil-fuel-free-steel/?sh=2aa243d96b55 Yeah that stuff is really really cool. I'm not convinced that a lot of mills, especially in Asia and the US, will do the change over anyeimt soon, but I'd love to be wrong.
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This coal thing kind of reminds me of Pittsburgh and all the “Steel City” stuff.
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drat Dirty Ape posted:This coal thing kind of reminds me of Pittsburgh and all the “Steel City” stuff. "Furniture City" sounds like a discount liquidators store and not a cool nickname for a city though, even if its more accurate
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Fifty Three posted:Penn State should move on from its Nittany Lion identity after they killed and skinned the last remaining one to make the mascot looks like they are loving the animals at Penn State instead of skinning them these days, so upgrade?
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drunk leprechaun posted:Yeah that stuff is really really cool. I'm not convinced that a lot of mills, especially in Asia and the US, will do the change over anyeimt soon, but I'd love to be wrong. I can see it being done in China. Substantial amounts of WV coal is exported to India and China. As relations continue to sour, China will look to making its steel industry entirely self-sufficient, for the same reason we're starting to build semiconductor factories in the US. France and England once considered intervening on behalf of the Confederacy because of the demands of textile mills, but they couldn't overcome supporting slavery, so they moved all their cotton production to Egypt. Not that colonial rule in Africa was much better, but the South was seriously hosed by the loss of the cotton market in Europe. The US will slow walk transitioning industrial uses for coke, but if China gets it in their mind to stop using coal, WV will lose a huge market. You're right that the coal industry is still worth well over $10B to the state and it's contracting slowly. But that trickle could turn into a waterfall if new policies are implemented. The price of coal has risen sharply with the Russian invasion of Ukraine, but that's not sustainable revenue for the state. In any case, I think the coal mythos West Virginia has built around itself is ultimately harmful to its future.
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Fluffdaddy posted:looks like they are loving the animals at Penn State instead of skinning them these days, so upgrade? 
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More came out about the guy today. Like, he was shoving sticks up his own rear end as well. Dude liked having fun. https://x.com/nypost/status/1757789126995157368?s=20
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It's time we address The Penn State Situation
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soggybagel posted:More came out about the guy today. Like, he was shoving sticks up his own rear end as well. Dude liked having fun. People are under a lot of stress these days
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The gently caress did I miss? 
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I. M. Gei posted:The gently caress did I miss? Coal chat, mostly
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