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Bald Stalin
Jul 11, 2004

Our posts

SlimGoodbody posted:

Reparations would be a nice start for sure but yeah, the actual scope of evil visited upon enslaved people and any descendant even remotely connected to the receiving end of slave society violence (and its renamed legacy systems) would in all likelihood exceed the capacity for quantification. Like how do you even calculate the monetary value of centuries of... that. It's also so baked into this country that it has been the off-screen suffering press that produces the oil which greases the machinery of America. The only justice I can think of that would come close to approaching a meaningful start would involve the total dismantling of this entire operation.

Ya lots of people living under the brutal occupation of settler colonialism been saying this

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SlimGoodbody
Oct 20, 2003

Bald Stalin posted:

Ya lots of people living under the brutal occupation of settler colonialism been saying this

Someone should write a book about this

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

jokes posted:

I was raised in the south and spent most of my life there so I'm not familiar with it, but does CA have much of a 'yikes' history with slavery? I know that Oregon was a sundown state, which is a yikes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery_in_California#:~:text=White%20colonists%20from%20the%20Southern,Rush%20(1848%E2%80%931855).

Also the Mission system was yikes

Also the sundown towns and Klan were active here. I have a friend who got run out of Orange County with his family and he's not even that old...that was during the 80's.

https://fullertonobserver.com/2019/01/07/a-brief-history-of-the-ku-klux-klan-in-orange-county-notes-on-the-banality-of-evil/

I'm told Pomona was pretty Klan heavy as well.

Jaxyon fucked around with this message at 00:30 on Feb 9, 2024

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Jaxyon posted:

Also the sundown towns and Klan were active here. I have a friend who got run out of Orange County with his family and he's not even that old...that was during the 80's.

This doesn't surprise me one bit. Every time I go to Orange County there's a pretty strong whiff of Trump on the breeze

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

jokes posted:

This doesn't surprise me one bit. Every time I go to Orange County there's a pretty strong whiff of Trump on the breeze

There was literally a nazi march there during his administration.

Huntington Beach is a very pretty, very awful place.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.

SlimGoodbody posted:

I have lived in California for all my 40 years and it's never come up 🤷‍♂️

He's very commonly cited along with LOWV

Anyhow Knock-LA is a No, and they're generally very good for left leaning voter guides:

https://knock-la.com/knock-la-voter-guide-march-2024-primary/

sb hermit
Dec 13, 2016





Jaxyon posted:

There was literally a nazi march there during his administration.

Huntington Beach is a very pretty, very awful place.

and San Clemente if not the bulk (but not quite all of) “South County” (south orange county)

sb hermit
Dec 13, 2016





submitted my mail-in ballot a few days ago and already dreading the deluge of too-late crap political mailers that flood my mailbox

Tuxedo Gin
May 21, 2003

Classy.

Jaxyon posted:

Huntington Beach is a very pretty, very awful place.

Can confirm. Spent the first 11 years of my life there plus regular visits to my grandmother there until she died 4 years ago.

America Inc.
Nov 22, 2013

I plan to live forever, of course, but barring that I'd settle for a couple thousand years. Even 500 would be pretty nice.

SlimGoodbody posted:

I also read the Political Party Statements of Purpose pages, and why are Green and Peace & Freedom not just forming a bloc? They have the same agenda. Just call yourselves the Socialist Party or something, it's what you both say you're running on.

They should also run for more offices than just the president. I don't see any green or p&f candidates for senator, or even local offices in my county.

No new party ever gets the presidency the first time, but you can use the momentum to elect people in local positions. Otherwise it just seems like grift.

E: I guess the DSA has taken all the momentum from those two parties, and they're husks of nostalgia now.

America Inc. fucked around with this message at 07:29 on Feb 12, 2024

Punkin Spunkin
Jan 1, 2010
The DSA has momentum?

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Punkin Spunkin posted:

The DSA has Joementum?

OgNar
Oct 26, 2002

They tapdance not, neither do they fart
Commie liberal scum

https://twitter.com/peterbakernyt/status/1757406392715972904
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-02-13/golden-state-loses-luster-half-of-americans-say-california-in-decline

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

the implication being that it's a bad thing to not be labelled as American by republicans

acksplode
May 17, 2004



Half of Republicans say a lot of things

SlimGoodbody
Oct 20, 2003

I wish liberals and their havens were half as communist as the dumb poo poo MAGA freaks believed they were.

Jaxyon
Mar 7, 2016
I’m just saying I would like to see a man beat a woman in a cage. Just to be sure.
I wish I could be openly commie in California, but living in LA, I lack any sort of police, homeless people beat me up for my lunch money, and I have special "human feces" shoes to wear out whenever I leave my house, which is seldom.

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

SlimGoodbody posted:

I wish liberals and their havens were half as communist as the dumb poo poo MAGA freaks believed they were.

I want a haven, poo poo sucks everywhere

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate



Nothing new, people who don't live in California looooove bashing California

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!
I wish I could get paid to write a couple thousand words saying nothing.

SolarFire2
Oct 16, 2001

"You're awefully cute, but unfortunately for you, you're made of meat." - Meat And Sarcasm Guy!

Cup Runneth Over posted:

Nothing new, people who don't live in California looooove bashing California

Californians in this thread spend most of the time bitching about how much they dislike it.

BeAuMaN
Feb 18, 2014

I'M A LEAD FARMER, MOTHERFUCKER!

SolarFire2 posted:

Californians in this thread spend most of the time bitching about how much they dislike it.

Everyone loves bashing California; however those who live there bash it much differently than those who don't.

Cactus Ghost
Dec 20, 2003

you can actually inflate your scrote pretty safely with sterile saline, syringes, needles, and aseptic technique. its a niche kink iirc

the saline just slowly gets absorbed into your blood but in the meantime you got a big round smooth distended nutsack

i like california

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

California is fine except welfare tax dollars don't seem to be very effective if you look at overall outcome in relation to how high income taxes are

I have commentary on over regulation but I think we've hit the high water mark for regulation as the NIMBY voting bloc ages out of life

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005

Hadlock posted:

California is fine except welfare tax dollars don't seem to be very effective if you look at overall outcome in relation to how high income taxes are

I have commentary on over regulation but I think we've hit the high water mark for regulation as the NIMBY voting bloc ages out of life

Hadlock, you know that the NIMBY groups' kids inherit their landed advantages, right? The old NIMBYs will simply become young NIMBYs who want to retain the status quo to their own advantage.

mikeycp
Nov 24, 2010

I've changed a lot since I started hanging with Sonic, but I can't depend on him forever. I know I can do this by myself! Okay, Eggman! Bring it on!
california sucks but it sucks a whole lot less than nearly every other state in this suckass country

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

Sundae posted:

Hadlock, you know that the NIMBY groups' kids inherit their landed advantages, right? The old NIMBYs will simply become young NIMBYs who want to retain the status quo to their own advantage.

Seems like only about 1/3 of NIMBY kids don't sell their parents house. I'm genuinely impressed how many people flush their inheritance down the drain for a one time payout. Most paid off SFH can rent after taxes and maintenance (lol) here for like $40k in profit annually, easily double that on the peninsula. About 80% of the homes we looked at were "my parents died during covid, so we're selling the house" flips

Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

mikeycp posted:

california sucks but it sucks a whole lot less than nearly every other state in this suckass country

I have a daughter so I can't ever move back to Texas unless they roll back about 15 years worth of hostile laws

Trazz
Jun 11, 2008
Honestly if all the right-wingers left California it would only improve

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

What, and delete Orange County?

Cactus Ghost
Dec 20, 2003

you can actually inflate your scrote pretty safely with sterile saline, syringes, needles, and aseptic technique. its a niche kink iirc

the saline just slowly gets absorbed into your blood but in the meantime you got a big round smooth distended nutsack

jokes posted:

What, and delete Orange County?

we can turn it back into farmland or something

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

It'd be cool if my property tax was reduced or eliminated, and that PG&E stopped killing and loving everyone over with their exorbitant prices because of said killing. But I guess that's just a pipe dream.

And DMV renewal fees to not be silly. Between my 2018, 2016, and 2013 cars, I'm paying drat near close to $1000 each year on registration fees alone.

Cactus Ghost
Dec 20, 2003

you can actually inflate your scrote pretty safely with sterile saline, syringes, needles, and aseptic technique. its a niche kink iirc

the saline just slowly gets absorbed into your blood but in the meantime you got a big round smooth distended nutsack

guy who owns a house and three cars: buhh buh muh taxes

e: but also, to be clear, gently caress pg&e. i miss smud

Cactus Ghost fucked around with this message at 23:42 on Feb 14, 2024

DELETE CASCADE
Oct 25, 2017

i haven't washed my penis since i jerked it to a phtotograph of george w. bush in 2003

Hadlock posted:

Seems like only about 1/3 of NIMBY kids don't sell their parents house. I'm genuinely impressed how many people flush their inheritance down the drain for a one time payout. Most paid off SFH can rent after taxes and maintenance (lol) here for like $40k in profit annually, easily double that on the peninsula. About 80% of the homes we looked at were "my parents died during covid, so we're selling the house" flips

sell the inherited bay area house for $2 million, pay no capital gains tax. take $1 million and buy a nice house somewhere sane. put the other $1 million in the bank and get $50k in profit annually for doing nothing. now you still have a house, and you still have a million bucks, and you don't have to be a landlord!

Henrik Zetterberg
Dec 7, 2007

Cactus Ghost posted:

guy who owns a house and three cars: buhh buh muh taxes

e: but also, to be clear, gently caress pg&e. i miss smud

Sorry I have kids?

What a weird comment.

Sundae
Dec 1, 2005

Hadlock posted:

Seems like only about 1/3 of NIMBY kids don't sell their parents house. I'm genuinely impressed how many people flush their inheritance down the drain for a one time payout. Most paid off SFH can rent after taxes and maintenance (lol) here for like $40k in profit annually, easily double that on the peninsula. About 80% of the homes we looked at were "my parents died during covid, so we're selling the house" flips

Yeah but they're gonna act NIMBY right up until they sell that house (so they get max dollar), and then move away, removing themselves from the YIMBY side of the equation too. The new owner is a NIMBY, because he just spent $2M on a house so doesn't want it to go back to $500K either, etc etc.

None of the sellers want cheap houses now, none of the buyers want cheap houses later, and none of the children want mom's estate to be cheap because they want to sell it when it's their turn. Repeat on loop until someone is forced to take a haircut.

quote:

sell the inherited bay area house for $2 million, pay no capital gains tax. take $1 million and buy a nice house somewhere sane. put the other $1 million in the bank and get $50k in profit annually for doing nothing. now you still have a house, and you still have a million bucks, and you don't have to be a landlord!

Exactly, and proposing to fix the housing market eats into that $2M inherited value, so of course they're against it as a voting bloc.

Fork of Unknown Origins
Oct 21, 2005
Gotta Herd On?

Sundae posted:

Hadlock, you know that the NIMBY groups' kids inherit their landed advantages, right? The old NIMBYs will simply become young NIMBYs who want to retain the status quo to their own advantage.

As if the parents won’t sell out to a foreign landlord conglomerate and spend all of the money on Alzheimer’s pills till they’re 90.

Pain of Mind
Jul 10, 2004
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I had a late 20's coworker who was constantly complaining about democrats from the left. The topic of Prop 13 came up and I said something negative about it, thinking he would agree. Surprisingly he liked prop 13, because apparently his parents are landlords. I wonder what his account name is.

Pain of Mind fucked around with this message at 00:39 on Feb 15, 2024

SlimGoodbody
Oct 20, 2003

Lmao Jesus, of course. I truly loathe people whose principles conveniently end at the exact boundary at which they most profit.

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Hadlock
Nov 9, 2004

DELETE CASCADE posted:

sell the inherited bay area house for $2 million, pay no capital gains tax. take $1 million and buy a nice house somewhere sane. put the other $1 million in the bank and get $50k in profit annually for doing nothing. now you still have a house, and you still have a million bucks, and you don't have to be a landlord!

You'd still pay ~25% income tax so that's a cool half mil to uncle Sam. So now you can buy a 2 bedroom condo ten miles from the beach, and 2% interest on $750k is like $15k, 4%* is only $30k which is barely going to cover your PG&E bill by the end of the decade. Plus you've got HOA dues on top of that

The rental property is $40k/year, inflation adjusted, forever. Plus since you're a full time real estate professional, all expenses are a tax write off

There's a reason why 60% of SFH were purchased and converted to rental properties during covid

*Generous return for money sitting in the bank

I guess if you just put it in an index fund you'd get 7% which is 52k but you're paying 20% short term capital gains tax on that so it's $41k minus state taxes

There exist some properties that aren't viable rentals. A two bedroom condo in a large healthy building in downtown SF is certainly a viable rental

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