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Der Kyhe posted:Besides that "El-Aurians can shake a bottle to make Q show up"-trick, none. 
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That wasn't a magical threat or anything, she was just calling him a catty bitch and he hates that
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I like to think El-Aurians have a communicative relationship with an ancient entity or a plane of reality or some poo poo which allows them both to understand things Beyond Our Ken and also intimidate beings of seeming omnipotence. It's not a direct threat, so much as "we have the ear of someone who can affect you... And like us, they're very good listeners"
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Feb 16, 2024 16:44
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She hints at one point that she could consider some of the Q friends.
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I’m sure they have a series bible somewhere that explicitly details the longstanding relationship between the El-Aurians and the Q, and it wasn’t all just made up by the writers as they went along and forgotten when it became inconvenient to remember.
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Feb 16, 2024 16:48
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MikeJF posted:She hints at one point that she could consider some of the Q friends. "I could if they weren't also Q. I love Q, but gently caress Q. If only all Q were more like Q and less like Q. But that's Q for you."
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Relevant:Memory Alpha posted:According to the novel The Buried Age, Guinan's special abilities and perceptions in regard to time and her ability to perceive Q were due to the echo of her left within the Nexus. This concept originated in unfilmed dialogue from the Generations screenplay, which also suggested that Dr. Soran was likewise given special insights about people thanks to having been in the Nexus. If sci-fi has taught me anything, the whole Borg/Q/El-Aurian relationship is better left vague and unexplained rather than laid out in excruciating detail that kills any intrigue.
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Feb 16, 2024 16:59
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Really it's all taking place in some kind of chatroom analogue.
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mysterious frankie posted:Ferengi definitely think we’re galaxy class junkie dipshits that hosed up capitalism so bad we almost ended all life on our planet, and space socialism is like our AA that we won’t shut up about. "Step 1. We admitted we were powerless over capitalism -- our lives had become unmanageable."
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Feb 16, 2024 17:16
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Guinan is a good character as a chill wisdom-dispensing friend to all which they could have easily gone overboard with but never did imo. Poking around Goldberg wasn't cast in Picard for budget reasons which if true is kind of lame. Then again Picard was pretty lame. E: was she in Picard? lol I really don't remember but fell asleep for that show pretty much every night I watched it.
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Feb 16, 2024 17:24
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Admiralty Flag posted:OK, this turn of phrase is too golden to let go by unnoticed. The comparison is ridiculous, we don't even have sobriety chips. *taps chest communicator*
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Feb 16, 2024 17:24
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Honestly, the fact that they only intermittently had access to Whoopi really helped Guinan as a character.
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Big rear end On Fire posted:Guinan is a good character as a chill wisdom-dispensing friend to all which they could have easily gone overboard with but never did imo. Poking around Goldberg wasn't cast in Picard for budget reasons which if true is kind of lame. Then again Picard was pretty lame. E: was she in Picard? lol I really don't remember but fell asleep for that show pretty much every night I watched it. She's there at the start and end of the season and then a younger actor plays her in the soggy middle of the season because time travel. But Stewart made a huge deal out of going on The View and publicly asking Goldberg if she wanted to come back to play Guinan in season 2 and then saying she was the first person they'd cast for it when she said yes.
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MikeJF posted:Honestly, the fact that they only intermittently had access to Whoopi really helped That's the opposite of what Gene Roddenberry would have wanted. 
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I still like how the Enterprise-C shows up with Shooter McGavin, Guinan goes "This is wrong, everything's not right, and I can't even begin to explain how", and everyone's just "poo poo, well if you say so, let's get to work unfucking things" and Tasha's like "Guinan said I should be dead, so I'm gonna go get killed, k?"
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Outpost22 posted:That's the opposite of what Gene Roddenberry would have wanted. I think Gene would have loved the show Cleopatra 2525
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Admiralty Flag posted:OK, this turn of phrase is too golden to let go by unnoticed. The Vulcans are like our sponsor who gets it, even if they didn’t have exactly the same problems. “For us it took a lot of meditation and cognitive behavioral therapy to get our own issues under control. For the humans… it’s having hobbies. A distressing number of hobbies, if we’re being honest. They call it ‘human betterment’ but it’s mostly hobbies. For every human scientist, explorer, or diplomat there are ten thousand proprietors of shops which make penny farthing bicycles by hand, or are running something called a “Burger King” for the purpose of historical preservation, or someone who is intensely obsessed with collecting and learning about bottle caps and chooses to go live on an uninhabited planet and build a bottle cap appreciation center, by hand, on it. And whenever one of them stops obsessing about their hobbies they become dangerously unstable. We figured out the reason why so many human Starfleet admirals went rogue was because we kept them too busy to pursue their hobbies; once workloads were lightened, acts of diabolical treachery immediately dropped to acceptable levels. Ultimately though, they are “fun guys” and it is very logical to have a certain percentage of “fun guys” around in order to maintain a convivial atmosphere.”
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mysterious frankie posted:The Vulcans are like our sponsor who gets it, even if they didn’t have exactly the same problems. AKA they are very good at war and will serve very effectively as meat shields in our ongoing galactic domination....
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Feb 16, 2024 18:16
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redshirt posted:AKA they are very good at war and will serve very effectively as meat shields in our ongoing galactic domination.... *raises an eyebrow, then silently resumes work at terminal*
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Feb 16, 2024 18:27
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I assume there would be a fair number of Vulcan groupies on Earth and other human worlds. Folks really, really into all things Vulcan.
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Feb 16, 2024 18:33
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Tiger style! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2VxdVvsPQg
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redshirt posted:I assume there would be a fair number of Vulcan groupies on Earth and other human worlds. Having your Vulcan girlfriend dress up as Galadriel for your birthday.
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Do you think your El-Aurian style can defeat me?!
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redshirt posted:I assume there would be a fair number of Vulcan groupies on Earth and other human worlds. I knew a guy once who worked at a soup restaurant, was an ascetic Buddhist who had an empty apartment he only used for meditation and sleep, and he had the driest sense of humor I've ever known. I always thought he felt a bit like a Vulcan, so I could see him getting very into plomeek and IDIC.
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MikeJF posted:She hints at one point that she could consider some of the Q friends. Maybe there's a line from another episode I'm forgetting but the one from Q Who is "Some of them are almost respectable." Nigmaetcetera posted:I’m sure they have a series bible somewhere that explicitly details the longstanding relationship between the El-Aurians and the Q lol Cthulu Carl posted:I still like how the Enterprise-C shows up with Shooter McGavin, Guinan goes "This is wrong, everything's not right, and I can't even begin to explain how", and everyone's just "poo poo, well if you say so, let's get to work unfucking things" and Tasha's like "Guinan said I should be dead, so I'm gonna go get killed, k?"
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One of my friends is convinced that all the Guinan episodes are actually in a slightly parallel continuity to the rest of the show because she thinks that the crew would have involved Guinan in a bunch of other episodes if they could have
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Picard: Computer, Guinan status. Computer: [bla-da-blee-deep!!] There is no Guinan listed in the crew manifest. Riker: Welp, we collapsed the Guinan waveform, guess we'll have to check back later.
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Has anyone considered El-Aurians are just part cat. Even the Q know not to gently caress around with a cat that just brought it's claws out.
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redshirt posted:Did Trek ever show a way/means to control Q? Some kind of "trans warp subspace interdimensional shield", or some such? Voyager found a Q trapped in an asteroid by Q and popped him out. So apparently they can be trapped in technology comprehensible to humans.
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So you're saying by rubbing this lamp and releasing a genie I'm an incredibly powerful sorcerer?
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Yes, the Genie is your source. Idiot.
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Soul Dentist posted:So you're saying by rubbing this lamp and releasing a genie I'm an incredibly powerful sorcerer? No, you're a guy capable of understanding lamps. Maybe even reproducing lamps capable of containing genies. The tricky part, the insurmountably tricky part, is getting a nearly omniscient entity to step into the trap in the first place.
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Facebook Aunt posted:No, you're a guy capable of understanding lamps. Maybe even reproducing lamps capable of containing genies. Easy. Use Picard as bait.
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drilldo squirt posted:Yes, the Genie is your source. Idiot. Don't sign your posts, oh wise and powerful genie
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Facebook Aunt posted:Voyager found a Q trapped in an asteroid by Q and popped him out. So apparently they can be trapped in technology comprehensible to humans. Might have just been sleeping. Sometimes when I think about what I would do if I were immortal, it’s “fall asleep somewhere remote for several millennia, just because I can.”
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its weird that for as many Q there are you see what two or three different Q other than Q
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Non Compos Mentis posted:its weird that for as many Q there are you see what two or three different Q other than Q I assume most of them just have better things to do with their time other than hanging out annoying Picard. Like I know, I don't understand it either.
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dr_rat posted:I assume most of them just have better things to do with their time other than hanging out annoying Picard. got other forums to moderate. ain’t gonna see pet island q in fyad 
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