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Peter Falk posted:Indo-European language family? Yes. For the entire world it would look more like this:  Be advised that we already discussed the status of Haitian Creole last time.
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tfw you wipe out two thirds of the world and still don't get all the Nazi officers.
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If we kill everyone on earth, the Nazis in hiding won't be able to do much harm.
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I meant Aryan as defined by German racial law (White, not Jewish) in that period not as the actual ancient peoples or any of their descendants which would be somewhat larger undertaking.
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Their definition was stupid and made no sense, their hated Russian enemies were closer to the hypothesized Aryan homeland than they were, and also some of their closest allies notably did not even speak an Indo-European language. However, his message of Aryan solidarity did catch on in certain parts of the world 
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Saladman posted:Yeah, de-Baathification was a really genius policy for Iraq too. That's why Iraq turned out so stable and unified in 2004. Conversely, the brutal punishment of all Imperial Japanese officers in the late 1940s, and the imprisonment / execution of most Boers in South Africa in the early 1990s, are why those countries turned into absolute nightmare quagmires in the immediate aftermath. It's pretty well borne out in history that executing/imprisoning all officers and politicians from terrible belligerent governments leads to much, much better outcomes than does amnesty for all but the worst of the worst offenders. I don't think the American Civil War and Gulf War II easily comparable in any way whatsoever. I genuinely believe there would have been a greater chance of not necessarily racial unity, but less racial tension if we had followed through on the promises of reconstruction (and, you know, executed more of the traitorous bastards that started the war, that to this date, killed more Americans than any other military conflict in our history).
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There's definitely a lot that could've been done better to make Reconstruction work, Andrew Johnson bears a lot of responsibility for fighting congress over it early on, and over time many people in congress just dropped the cause of free blacks, but one of the main killing blows was the US essentially giving in to an insurgency after a series of guerilla campaigns against Reconstruction, including lynchings, massacres, and outright coups (successful and otherwise). It was a mult-stage failure over a long time, and through a combination of weariness of the southern quagmire and successful subversion of democracy, federal forces eventually gave up. I'm not sure how much later uprisings in Europe were inspired by the American south demonstrating how to hijack democracy with targeted violence or how much modern paramilitary organizations and hopeful American fascists know about the 19th century roots that they echo. It seems like that part of history gets more covered up in the public eye.
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EasilyConfused posted:Black Death? Yep. I remember that map from the Wikipedia article.
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EasilyConfused posted:You don't know any Black Southerners do you? Phlegmish posted:Don't know if you're misinterpreting his post, but presumably barely any black Southerners were allowed to vote in 1860, and most of those counties that voted against secessionist probably have low black populations even today. Contrary to the post y’all are replying to, you’re way more likely to see a confederate flag in Appalachia these days while the population centres have been purging their monuments for nearly a decade. Not even whitey likes confederate poo poo in New Orleans, or Houston, or Austin, or ironically Atlanta. loving Nikki Haley took the stars and bars off the capitol in Charleston. The only wild confederate flags I’ve seen since before high school were one in the middle of nowhere of a south Alabama highway, one in Kingston, Ontario, and some at places where they sell MAGA gear ( ps did u no Lincoln was a republican  )
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, though. Do these areas like East Tennessee have Confederate flags all over the place? If so, that would be sad.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:ps did u no Lincoln was a republican 
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We are racist in the modern ways nowadays down here in the south.
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Yeah, the confederate flag has shifted meaning to basically "gently caress the government and also minorities" more than anything specific related to the war of northern aggression or whatever
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I really want to know where this "no Christians allowed in the Golden Horde" line came from, particularly since I'm given to understand that the subject princes were expected to show up at Sarai on the regular, particular if they wanted to be installed as Grand Prince of Vladimir.
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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PittTheElder posted:I really want to know where this "no Christians allowed in the Golden Horde" line came from, particularly since I'm given to understand that the subject princes were expected to show up at Sarai on the regular, particular if they wanted to be installed as Grand Prince of Vladimir. Well if you could make a line that kept Christians out, wouldn't you?
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Ferdinand the Bull posted:We are racist in the modern ways nowadays down here in the south. Quite literally yes  Poverty  Do I need to specifiy which is white and which is black BonHair posted:Yeah, the confederate flag has shifted meaning to basically "gently caress the government and also minorities" more than anything specific related to the war of northern aggression or whatever *technically september was the last time I could take stock of flag preferences in the UsA but I assume it’s still months out from maximum MAGA imagery. It’s very much a national mosaic divide now instead of regional. Similarly way more MAGA in upstate NY than in NYC or Dallas or NOLA for places I lived, and similarly the inhabitants of boonie NY, boonie Texas, and boonie Louisiana are all convinced they’ll be shot by dem-funded rampaging gangs if they set foot in the local stand in for demon liberal hell city Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 18:11 on Feb 15, 2024 |
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PittTheElder posted:I really want to know where this "no Christians allowed in the Golden Horde" line came from, particularly since I'm given to understand that the subject princes were expected to show up at Sarai on the regular, particular if they wanted to be installed as Grand Prince of Vladimir.
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Christians were the only ones able to transmit the black death so the golden horde was able to halt its progress through the use of their anti-christian forcefield. I don't know why this is such a hard concept to understand.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Maybe there were restrictions on christian merchants/non-rulership types for a time? "No migrating!" kind of a thing? I'm curious too though. I’ve never heard of such a ban, and googling it in english and kazakh has people asking about that exact map and its border in the first page of results. Uzbek Khan, the ruler of the Golden Horde 1313-41 right before the plague, who converted himself and the horde to Islam, was famously tolerant of christians. He had regular correspondence with Pope John XXII and sent the following letter to Pyotr, the patriarch who moved his seat from Vladimir to its current unfortunate position in Moscow: Uzbek Khan posted:By the will and power, the greatness and most high! Let no man insult the metropolitan church of which Peter is head, or his service or his churchman; let no man seize their property, goods or people, let no man meddle in the affairs of the church...Their laws, their churches and monasteries and chapels shall be respected; whoever condemns or blames this religion, shall not be allowed to excuse himself under any pretext, but shall be punished with death. His successor lasted one year and was known as pro-christian, and their succesor, another son of Uzbek whose mother assassinated the former elder half-brother, was the Khan who apocryphally spread the plague to Kaffa with bodies, but spent most of his time warring against muslims in the muslim Ilkhanate and used personal funds to build the Chudov Monastery in Moscow. I’m doubtful of this border ban.
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The anti-Christian force field would eventually backfire as it made the Russians insatiably curious as to what was going on behind it
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Phlegmish posted:The anti-Christian force field would eventually backfire as it made the Russians insatiably curious as to what was going on behind it Politically loaded because Finland doesn’t get counted as ever conquered, much like it was “never” in the Axis 
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 Lotta weird presentation decisions on this one. Edgar Allen Ho posted:similarly the inhabitants of boonie NY, boonie Texas, and boonie Louisiana are all convinced they’ll be shot by dem-funded rampaging gangs if they set foot in the local stand in for demon liberal hell city Conversely, many people on the other side of the spectrum are convinced they'll be hunted down and killed if they go anywhere near the south like it's 60-90 years ago.
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:It’s very much a national mosaic divide now instead of regional. Similarly way more MAGA in upstate NY than in NYC or Dallas or NOLA for places I lived, and similarly the inhabitants of boonie NY, boonie Texas, and boonie Louisiana are all convinced they’ll be shot by dem-funded rampaging gangs if they set foot in the local stand in for demon liberal hell city They always say "I never go in the city anymore" or "I never go downtown anymore" when they never went in the city to begin with! Once I noticed this I couldn't unnotice it.
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  Heatmap of Tay Tay concerts The greener, the more beloved Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Feb 16, 2024 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:
Taylor Swift, champion of the Ummah against the hated Franks
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So is it attendees per capita or something, how does it measure 'beloved'
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Phlegmish posted:So is it attendees per capita or something, how does it measure 'beloved' I don’t fuckin know beyond the results looking funny (Portugal não é um pais da Europa occidental) I do know why Utah is the only state that google trends for Evermore. It’s for a Mormon larp theme park, not for the album: https://www.evermore.com Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 16:55 on Feb 16, 2024 |
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The entire population of Vietnam was at her last Vietnamese concert Meanwhile, neither I nor any of the three people I know in real life have ever attended a Taylor Swift concert Ergo, quod erat demonstrandum, the map is accurate. e: ipso facto Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 17:01 on Feb 16, 2024 |
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Didn't that concert in Brazil kill a bunch of people. She should be very un-beloved in Brazil.
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Just googled it and she's never even toured in Vietnam  Might be Spotify listens or something. I don't know why I'm so intrigued by this map
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Minenfeld! posted:Didn't that concert in Brazil kill a bunch of people. She should be very un-beloved in Brazil. One person of heat exhaustion, I believe. It took place during a massive heat wave.
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Phlegmish posted:Just googled it and she's never even toured in Vietnam Syria didn’t give it away? Looks like just another one of those "completely random colors on a map lol" maps. I do like how Somaliland is distinct now. Even The Economist maps now show Somaliland as a country.
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Maybe it's just her personal opinions on various countries. Like, she's not into France but into countries that beat France in a recent war?
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Her hit album, 1789 Shake It Off [The Ancien Régime]
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 (I'm pretty sure this is wrong bc 6th Light Brigade went on the ground into Iraq in 1990 I'm pretty sure)  if you aren't on the last third of this one, you are a historical bad guy sorry (questionable though given most of the grey countries were parts of the coloured ones)  this one is also wrong because it's clearly counting 1812 as a canadian victory which every right thinking person knows is absolute bullshit
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:
Also Australia got beaten by emus and Korea was successfully conquered by the Mongols.
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