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The Artificial Kid
Feb 22, 2002
Plibble

Mantis42 posted:

The Soviet Union was not only socialist but it was the greatest force for decolonization and anti-imperialism in history outside of the PRC.

Yeah, like their senpai the British Empire they eventually decolonized dozens of countries.

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Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬
Chuds seem to be interpreting Tucker's shopping video as evidence of how badly Biden has managed the economy in the US. It lets them believe that their grocery bill wouldn't be nearly as high had Biden not run the money printer into overdrive and that we too could feed a family of 4 on pennies if the democrats just got out of the way.

These goobers are from Canada but it reminds me of similar misconceptions.
https://twitter.com/I_am_Toro__/status/1758124013115871375?t=ZCLGZtKx4ESVTY3tZHu3mQ&s=19

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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My favorite one of these is weirdo conservative Catholic guy Rod Dreher moving to Hungary since it has been hailed as a refuge for ‘true conservatives’. He then proceeds to piss off Viktor Orban with some question at a press thing by asking an inconvenient question of Orban

...!
Oct 5, 2003

I SHOULD KEEP MY DUMB MOUTH SHUT INSTEAD OF SPEWING HORSESHIT ABOUT THE ORBITAL MECHANICS OF THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT A LAGRANGE POINT IS?
Putin was not impressed by Tucker.


https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/putin-disappointed-tucker-carlson-soft-interview-questions-1234968893/

quote:

Putin Says He Was Disappointed by Tucker Carlson's Soft Questions

The Russian authoritarian steamrolled the former Fox News during their two-hour interview last week

FEBRUARY 15 AT 6:24 AM

Russian President Vladimir Putin was apparently itching for a verbal wrestling match with Tucker Carlson when the former Fox News host interviewed him earlier this month. He was disappointed not to get one.

Speaking to Russian state TV anchor Pavel Zarubin earlier this week, Putin said that he "thought he would behave aggressively and ask so-called sharp questions. I wasn't just prepared for this, I wanted it!"

During his more than two-hour-long interview with Carlson, which aired on Feb. 8, Putin dominated the conversation. The president delivered a lengthy lecture on his propagandistic version of Russian and Ukrainian history, with virtually no interruption from Carlson. The host gave Putin what was essentially an open forum to reiterate his stated reasons for Russia's invasion of Ukraine, his criticism of NATO, and his disdain for the United States and other Western powers' support for Ukraine in the ongoing war between the two nations. The only moment when Carlson seemed to outright challenge the president was during their discussion of the detention of Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich.

While the interview was ultimately a propaganda victory for Putin, it wasn't quite the flavor he was going for.

"He tried to interrupt me several times, but still, surprisingly for a Western journalist, he turned out to be patient and listened to my lengthy dialogues, especially those related to history, and didn't give me a reason to do what I was ready for," Putin told Zarubin, according to a translation of the conversation by Politico EU.

"To be frank, I didn't get much pleasure from this interview," he added.

The Kremlin acknowledged ahead of Putin's interview with Carlson that they had rejected a slew of media requests to speak with the Russian president. Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov claimed they had been denied because most major Western media outlets "don't even attempt to appear impartial in their coverage. Of course there's no desire to communicate with this kind of media."

As many have pointed out, the notion that Carlson has been "impartial" in his coverage of Russia is laughable. Carlson was likely selected to interview Putin because of his prominent advocacy against U.S. and NATO intervention in the ongoing conflict between Ukraine and Russia, and his often explicit support and whitewashing of the Russian government's actions. The host has a long history of espousing pro-Russian talking points regarding the war, even going so far as to claim in 2019 that he was actively "[rooting] for Russia" as tensions escalated between the two nations.

The Russian government has attempted to take advantage of Carlson's coverage in the past. In March of 2022, Mother Jones obtained a Kremlin memo that encouraged state-controlled media outlets to "use as much as possible fragments of broadcasts of the popular Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who sharply criticizes the actions of the United States [and] NATO, their negative role in unleashing the conflict in Ukraine, [and] the defiantly provocative behavior from the leadership of the Western countries and NATO towards the Russian Federation and towards President Putin, personally."

OgNar
Oct 26, 2002

They tapdance not, neither do they fart

Panfilo posted:

Chuds seem to be interpreting Tucker's shopping video as evidence of how badly Biden has managed the economy in the US. It lets them believe that their grocery bill wouldn't be nearly as high had Biden not run the money printer into overdrive and that we too could feed a family of 4 on pennies if the democrats just got out of the way.

These goobers are from Canada but it reminds me of similar misconceptions.

This was an interesting link in that twitter thread.
During the great depression, 1931.
Russia was advertising for Americans to come and work.

How it started...
"In the first 8 months of 1931, a Soviet trade agency in New York advertised 6,000 positions and received more than 100,000 applications. 10,000 Americans were hired in 1931, part of the official "organized emigration"."

"In March 1932, The New York Times reported that immigration to the Soviet Union was 1000 a week, but increasing."

How it ended...
"By 1937, many of the Americans were arrested alongside untold numbers of Soviet citizens. Some were executed. Others were sent to "corrective labor" camps in the Gulag where they were worked to death.
As documented by Tzouliadis, they were essentially abandoned by the U.S. government and its diplomats in Moscow."


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Forsaken:_An_American_Tragedy_in_Stalin%27s_Russia


e: speaking of Russia, Navalny has died in prison.

https://twitter.com/highbrow_nobrow/status/1758498806025372088

OgNar fucked around with this message at 16:35 on Feb 16, 2024

MrUnderbridge
Jun 25, 2011

Perhaps a "Marcos killing Aquino sparking the People Power movement and Aquino's wife then becoming president after the overthrow" situation could happen.

Not holding my breath by any means, but it would be a nice echo of history.

Aztec Galactus
Sep 12, 2002

Russia made being gay illegal so it is MAGA utopia

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Well it’s also that Trump is a big admirer of strongmen like Putin, Kim Jong Un, and others. They have just pivoted to supporting that kind of person now because they want Trump to be the forever emperor

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice
Everyone got your anniversary activities planned? The fat gently caress died three years ago tomorrow!

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

bird food bathtub posted:

Everyone got your anniversary activities planned? The fat gently caress died three years ago tomorrow!
I'm hoping we get an updated thread title.

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

FlamingLiberal posted:

Well it’s also that Trump is a big admirer of strongmen like Putin, Kim Jong Un, and others. They have just pivoted to supporting that kind of person now because they want Trump to be the forever emperor

They didn't have to pivot very hard

FMguru posted:

I'm hoping we get an updated thread title.

"This just in, Rush Limbaugh is still sober"

mds2
Apr 8, 2004


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Panfilo posted:

Chuds seem to be interpreting Tucker's shopping video as evidence of how badly Biden has managed the economy in the US. It lets them believe that their grocery bill wouldn't be nearly as high had Biden not run the money printer into overdrive and that we too could feed a family of 4 on pennies if the democrats just got out of the way.

These goobers are from Canada but it reminds me of similar misconceptions.
https://twitter.com/I_am_Toro__/status/1758124013115871375?t=ZCLGZtKx4ESVTY3tZHu3mQ&s=19

Can you post part 2?

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬

mds2 posted:

Can you post part 2?

https://twitter.com/I_am_Toro__/status/1758124281786237332?t=r_Xe0x-0kLYVIvD5hI8NDw&s=19

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬
:allears: Sure...that's the reason
https://twitter.com/RichardStrocher/status/1758535631318528110?s=19
Why do all these Young Republican types end up looking like they're afflicted by some kind of Benjamin button disease?

tacodaemon
Nov 27, 2006



e: nm

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Panfilo posted:

:allears: Sure...that's the reason
https://twitter.com/RichardStrocher/status/1758535631318528110?s=19
Why do all these Young Republican types end up looking like they're afflicted by some kind of Benjamin button disease?
The Onion explained this a decade ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoSlRf1NtGw

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

i am currently getting ratiod for being the lead actor in the Popeye prequel trilogy

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

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Is this is another AI photoshop thing like that 12 year old who tried to get people to believe he looked like the Chad meme guy

Truxton
Oct 31, 2012

Panfilo posted:

Why do all these Young Republican types end up looking like they're afflicted by some kind of Benjamin button disease?

Social outcasts make ideal targets for recruitment. Tell them they're special, that they did everything right, convince them that your enemies are the reason their lives didn't go the way they wanted, and you have a loyal soldier willing to fight whatever battle you tell them to.

Truxton fucked around with this message at 22:40 on Feb 16, 2024

Inspector Gesicht
Oct 26, 2012

500 Zeus a body.


Richard Kind, noooooo.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
It was wrong, very wrong indeed, to apply the de-aging machine to Fred Willard's corpse and dress it up as a Republican, and then re-animate it.

Hollandia
Jul 27, 2007

rattus rattus


Grimey Drawer
He looks like that and is named Dick Stroker, it must be a bit right?
e: wow, it's not a bit

Hollandia fucked around with this message at 06:50 on Feb 17, 2024

stringless
Dec 28, 2005

keyboard ⌨️​ :clint: cowboy

Dick Stroker Junior

/e: oh that's the dumb X

The Islamic Shock
Apr 8, 2021

Truxton posted:

Social outcasts make ideal targets for recruitment. Tell them they're special, that they did everything right, convince them that your enemies are the reason their lives didn't go the way they wanted, and you have a loyal soldier willing to fight whatever battle you tell them to.
The part that gets me is the people actually responsible for most of the external forces beyond their control working to make their lives worse are the same ones they serve

The continued existence of American conservatism is already on a clock because people have free access to knowledge about how history works, so I can see why they're terrified of young people learning all that poo poo in school without going out of their way to find it. Bad enough for them that nearly everyone the median age here and under has gone "hey why is it I can't get a house, car, spouse and kids straight out of high school, or college with no debt, on one paycheck like my oldest relatives did ever" at some point in their lives

Edit: Jesus editing that strikethrough made me depressed at how much things shift when billionaires are allowed to exist again

The Islamic Shock fucked around with this message at 12:39 on Feb 17, 2024

Snacksmaniac
Jan 12, 2008

Is it three years for rushbo now? Mega dittos.

SwingShift
Apr 27, 2013

Panfilo posted:

Why do all these Young Republican types end up looking like they're afflicted by some kind of Benjamin button disease?

There's the photo of Matt Gaetz out of his work attire and he looks much more human and much less like a weird plastic man. I think this guy is suffering from a similar effect - imagine him with like, a tshirt and a hat or a beanie, half way through yammering about a game he played or whatever. He's got the basic young male politician hair style, shorter on the sides and swooped backward up top, and that does not look good with his face shape, something more relaxed would make him less unnatural looking imo. Plus the tiny goatee isn't doing him any favors. I think of how conservatives will sometimes wear a cowboy hat or blue jeans to try and blend in with the normies. This is like the opposite of that.

big mean giraffe
Dec 13, 2003

Eat Shit and Die

Lipstick Apathy
Clothes aren't the reason his head looks like a melted action figure

Morrow
Oct 31, 2010

SwingShift posted:

There's the photo of Matt Gaetz out of his work attire and he looks much more human and much less like a weird plastic man. I think this guy is suffering from a similar effect - imagine him with like, a tshirt and a hat or a beanie, half way through yammering about a game he played or whatever. He's got the basic young male politician hair style, shorter on the sides and swooped backward up top, and that does not look good with his face shape, something more relaxed would make him less unnatural looking imo. Plus the tiny goatee isn't doing him any favors. I think of how conservatives will sometimes wear a cowboy hat or blue jeans to try and blend in with the normies. This is like the opposite of that.

There's a reason the Twitter Menswear Guy(tm) likes dunking on conservative politicians: many actually have no idea how to dress in a traditional suit in a way that's flattering to them, so they wear weird tight jackets or brown shoe/blue suit combos or skinny pants.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬
I kind of wondered if there's this Republican aesthetic of wearing an ill fitting suit and unflattering haircut for their head/face shape that just makes a lot of younger guys look like an adult baby. Because I think that's a big part of it based on what you said.

What's funny is I feel like conservatives act like they're following clothing traditionally but it seems more like some cargo cult perception of how they thought people traditionally dressed because it often comes off as this dall-e uncanny valley facsimile of conservative dress.

HootTheOwl
May 13, 2012

Hootin and shootin
Congrats to rush for 3 years sober!
Here's to another three

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Panfilo posted:

What's funny is I feel like conservatives act like they're following clothing traditionally but it seems more like some cargo cult perception of how they thought people traditionally dressed

It's exactly this.

big mean giraffe
Dec 13, 2003

Eat Shit and Die

Lipstick Apathy

HootTheOwl posted:

Congrats to rush for 3 years sober!
Here's to another three

What a great accomplishment, he should have done it decades ago

Mooseontheloose
May 13, 2003

HootTheOwl posted:

Congrats to rush for 3 years sober!
Here's to another three

Hell, he might be sober forever.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


big mean giraffe posted:

What a great accomplishment, he should have done it decades ago

if only we had been so lucky

Lemniscate Blue
Apr 21, 2006

Here we go again.

Panfilo posted:

What's funny is I feel like conservatives act like they're following clothing traditionally but it seems more like some cargo cult perception of how they thought people traditionally dressed because it often comes off as this dall-e uncanny valley facsimile of conservative dress.

This is a part of why so many of them would wear a trilby (while incorrectly calling it a fedora) until that became so universally mocked that it eventually petered out. Because Bogart wore one and he was classy and cool, so...

The other part came from PUA circles and "peacocking".

Mercury_Storm
Jun 12, 2003

*chomp chomp chomp*
I'd just like to give a shoutout and megadittos to the lung cancer that made this all possible

FMguru
Sep 10, 2003

peed on;
sexually

Mercury_Storm posted:

I'd just like to give a shoutout and megadittos to the lung cancer that made this all possible
Rare cancer W.

I'm a strong proponent of Team gently caress Cancer, but this one time I think I can make an exception.

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

https://twitter.com/KeeleyFox29/status/1759000489515962457?t=a_8ByLvti7Cf17WqxDzsUg&s=19
:qqsay:

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

FMguru posted:

Rare cancer W.

I'm a strong proponent of Team gently caress Cancer, but this one time I think I can make an exception.

Rush didn't think smoking causes cancer so he hosed around and found out. So I agree, gently caress cancer, but in this case his stupid dead rear end deserved it.

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Gyges
Aug 4, 2004

NOW NO ONE
RECOGNIZE HULK
Cancer still sucks for taking 70 years to take out a pill popping, chain smoking, alcohol swilling, fat gently caress with blocked arteries who refused to exercise. That's a shitbag that normally non-lethal diseases could take out. Cancer didn't really want it, and doesn't deserve the W.

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