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Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Well I don't mean that it's literally just sugar, more that the osmotic pressure of that amount of sugar is seriously bacteriostatic

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fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001



It's trending for the 2nd time :allears:

Salt n Reba McEntire
Nov 14, 2000

Kuparp.
I only lurk because I don't have anything to add. Grateful for this thread and others I read daily, as sources of information are becoming very difficult to come across. I suppose if you want a good conflict you need to encourage as much ignorance as possible, and capital is going to need more conflicts going forward.

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!
My bed frame won't get to the UK until April, the Gaza war is directly effecting meeeeee :reddit:

His Divine Shadow
Aug 7, 2000

I'm not a fascist. I'm a priest. Fascists dress up in black and tell people what to do.

Mebh posted:

I still have some Camrath fudge in the door of my fridge that is over a year old that I can't bring myself to eat or chuck out :( he was such a good guy.

There's a GBS UK thread too apparently and I looked into that one time, and by coincidence there was some guy there just making GBS threads all over Camrath, seemed to have a real beef with the guy and it just seemed to boil down to he thought he was too posh or something. I dunno what the point is, but that really got stuck in my mind after I read about his suicide and I couldn't help wonder what reading stuff like that about yourself would do if you were in a compromised mental state.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

The Times has a good writeup about Starmer's treatment of Ali and others, and I've linked to the archive.is snapshot - Labour’s promising week derailed by secret recording

quote:

Recording of antisemitic remarks was given to Labour on Saturday but the Times has revealed that no one thought to go through it thoroughly

...
Behind the scenes the Labour leader has faced one of his most challenging periods in office — with a fresh antisemitism row that has left some of his MPs questioning how he and his team will cope under the intense pressure of the election to come.

“I’m really pissed off and annoyed that we’ve allowed such an avoidable mess to happen,” one shadow minister said. “It’s like we’re doing everything possible to lose the election. There’s a distinct lack of political acumen in Loto [the leader of the opposition’s office].”

Another shadow minister admitted: “There is massive unhappiness at the mismanagement of this issue.”

quote:

Unlike other Labour MPs who had fallen foul of Starmer’s attempts to detoxify the party from claims of antisemitism — Azhar Ali was not a leftwinger and had powerful allies who argued for leniency.

The Times has been told that one of those who privately pushed Starmer to stand behind Ali was the party’s deputy leader, Angela Rayner, whose Ashton-under-Lyne seat is nearby and who had known and liked him for years. A Labour spokesman has said that Rayner and Starmer were in complete agreement on how Ali’s comments had been dealt with.

Significantly, he received public support from Dame Louise Ellman, the Jewish former Labour MP, who was forced out of the party under Corbyn but returned to the fold under Starmer. She said while she was “appalled” by the comments she had known him for more than twenty years and did not believe he was an antisemite.

Starmer, worried that withdrawing support for Ali could hand the seat to George Galloway and infuriate senior figures in the party, decided not to sack him. It was a bad decision.

quote:

In private some Labour MPs have questioned Starmer’s judgment over the affair — in particular whether he had drawn the right balance between acting against antisemitism and those who are criticising Israel in an intemperate but not antisemitic way.

They argue that while Starmer was too slow to suspend Ali he was too fast in suspending Jones and had lowered the bar for what was acceptable to say about the conflict in Gaza that many Labour MPs — and their core voters — feel strongly about.

“I don’t think Keir or his team understand the political consequence of them seeming to only support Israel,” one backbench MP said.
“The right of the party has created a huge chilling effect. We’re required to give Israel preferential treatment and not criticise it like we would any other country.

“Voters aren’t stupid — they recognise what’s been perpetrated in Gaza is clearly wrong and they don’t understand why we’re justifying these awful things. Having a zero-tolerance approach to antisemitism is absolutely the right thing to do, but we shouldn’t take a zero-tolerance approach to any criticism of Israel.”

Mega Comrade
Apr 22, 2004

Listen buddy, we all got problems!

His Divine Shadow posted:

There's a GBS UK thread too apparently and I looked into that one time, and by coincidence there was some guy there just making GBS threads all over Camrath, seemed to have a real beef with the guy and it just seemed to boil down to he thought he was too posh or something. I dunno what the point is, but that really got stuck in my mind after I read about his suicide and I couldn't help wonder what reading stuff like that about yourself would do if you were in a compromised mental state.

He took issue with him taking a gig serving fudge to some rich (likely Tory) people if I recall. It was a very "yet you participate in society" thing to get hung up on.

Solefald
Jun 9, 2010

sleepy~capy


Who are you talking about and what post.

Solefald
Jun 9, 2010

sleepy~capy


Nevermind. I found the post and who you were talking about.

Dead Goon
Dec 13, 2002

No Obvious Flaws



I post in this thread.

I remember nothing.

kecske
Feb 28, 2011

it's round, like always

Mega Comrade posted:

My bed frame won't get to the UK until April, the Gaza war is directly effecting meeeeee :reddit:

is it some bespoke racecar bed from japan or something? what's wrong with a good old british bed made from stolen pallets and asbestos board

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug
Wank Chariot 3000

serious gaylord
Sep 16, 2007

what.
drat

https://twitter.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1758947815848395003

Man cant stop uturning.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
Lol floating a trial balloon to your own aides and seeing if they make sad enough faces

Skulker
Jan 27, 2021

Duuuuuude!
EDIT: Actually, fuckit.

Skulker fucked around with this message at 13:30 on Feb 18, 2024

Lt. Danger
Dec 22, 2006

jolly good chaps we sure showed the hun

e: nvm

Solefald
Jun 9, 2010

sleepy~capy


Skulker posted:

EDIT: Actually, fuckit.

I saw what you said and I appreciate it because yeah, that's hosed up.

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?
It's funny how with this new improved antisemitism furore how the entire process is framed that Keir Himself must be making all these decisions about everybody's guilt, yet a massive tenet of the Corbyn investigation was that he shouldn't be getting involved in these decisions. Oh well let's just memory hole all that

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



This thread (and D&D more broadly, and SA more broadly again) is a little community, it's entirely natural that it sucks when a member of it dies. Even if you don't interact with someone much directly, it's all connected and the people you do interact with may interact with them etc. etc..

Also we're mostly a bunch of millennials and some zoomers, in our 20s through early 40s (No offense to our venerable elders!) so death isn't exactly a looming presence in our lives and though we've likely got familiarity with grandparents passing on, for someone in our own generation to go blindsides us. We're not fired up with the invincibility of youth anymore but it's still supposed to be a remote concern.

Just Another Lurker
May 1, 2009

Ms Adequate posted:

This thread (and D&D more broadly, and SA more broadly again) is a little community, it's entirely natural that it sucks when a member of it dies. Even if you don't interact with someone much directly, it's all connected and the people you do interact with may interact with them etc. etc..

Also we're mostly a bunch of millennials and some zoomers, in our 20s through early 40s (No offense to our venerable elders!) so death isn't exactly a looming presence in our lives and though we've likely got familiarity with grandparents passing on, for someone in our own generation to go blindsides us. We're not fired up with the invincibility of youth anymore but it's still supposed to be a remote concern.

Generation X here and i had to go out and buy a loving ironing board last year because i'm going to a lot of funerals nowadays here in N.I. and i have to look somewhat presentable. :corsair:

The things you have in your future.

Failed Imagineer
Sep 22, 2018
They're starting to gently caress it, lol

https://twitter.com/LeftieStats/status/1759199068679471428?t=9RUCSVf2ZSwWWJTD_NEGQQ&s=19

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
Any other leader.

No, not that one.

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

The Perfect Element posted:

I love all the goons in this thread, and while I'd never attend a goon meet, I still like to imagine that it would basically resemble the Danebury Metal Detecting Club.

I met both Goddamnedtwisto and Camrath at the same London goonmeet, that I organised, where Camrath debuted his fudge (and just before COVID hit - I was trying to get a D&D game going but obviously that never got off the ground).

I may possibly be cursed or something.

Maphis
Apr 22, 2012
Been lurking but reading daily since 2015.
Was completely disengaged from politics but rode the jam man rollercoaster of hope with y'all along with the crushing realisation of 2019 that someone who actually wants to make things better will never be allowed near power. I've been depressed and disengaged ever since and my greatest hope for the '24 election is a hung parliament.
Despite never personally interacting with either of them the loss of Twisto and Camrath still hit surprisingly hard.

Much like happyhippy I think I'm getting made redundant first thing tomorrow after 15 years at the same place.

Just Another Lurker posted:

Generation X here and i had to go out and buy a loving ironing board last year because i'm going to a lot of funerals nowadays here in N.I. and i have to look somewhat presentable. :corsair:
The things you have in your future.

Climate doom means we won't be getting funerals, bit of a relief tbh.

killerwhat
May 13, 2010

Maphis posted:

Much like happyhippy I think I'm getting made redundant first thing tomorrow after 15 years at the same place.

Will you at least get a decent 15 years worth of payout?

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Maphis posted:


Climate doom means we won't be getting funerals, bit of a relief tbh.

Soylent green. Our destiny.

Maphis
Apr 22, 2012

killerwhat posted:

Will you at least get a decent 15 years worth of payout?

I'd like to hope so but it's 202X and I've no doubts they'll find a way to wriggle out of whatever legal obligations they might have. I'd also like to be completely wrong about the whole thing but the writing has been on the wall for awhile. Despite the business being massively profitable it's not profitable enough for our corporate overlords and their investors. Capitalism sucks yo.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

feedmegin posted:

I was trying to get a D&D game going but obviously that never got off the ground).
I sometimes think about suggesting getting a D&D game going because I'd like a new group to play with, but also I'm terrible at discord and roll 20 and all the decent ways of playing remotely.

happyhippy
Feb 21, 2005

Playing games, watching movies, owning goons. 'sup
Pillbug

Maphis posted:

Much like happyhippy I think I'm getting made redundant first thing tomorrow after 15 years at the same place.

Sorry to hear that, loving sucks doesn't it.

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001

The local Lidl has stopped accepting cash and all the staff are wearing bodycams. The posh locals here are a bit taken aback with the change, not realising that them voting conservative has meant that shoplifting and robberies are now at an all time high. It turns out it's a national initiative, and a part of Operation Pegasus.

quote:

Police have also reaffirmed their pledge to follow up on any evidence that could reasonably lead to catching a perpetrator. Forces will step up targeted hotspot patrols in badly affected areas.

The plan sets out advice for retailers on how to provide the best possible evidence for police to pursue in any case. They should send CCTV footage of the whole incident, and an image of the shoplifter from the digital evidence management system, as quickly as possible after an offence has been committed.

Where CCTV or other digital images are secured, police will run this through the Police National Database using facial recognition technology to further aid efforts to identify and prosecute offenders – particularly prolific or potentially dangerous individuals.

A specialist new police team is also being created to build a comprehensive intelligence picture of the organised crime gangs that fuel many shoplifting incidents across the country, to help target and dismantle them.

The initiative, called Pegasus, is a business and policing partnership that will radically improve the way retailers are able to share intelligence with policing, to better understand the tactics used by organised retail crime gangs and identify more offenders. This will include development of a new information sharing platform and training for retailers.

It sounds like a huge data mining operation. I don't know why, but I thought that facial recognition was banned in the UK, but alas:

https://www.wired.co.uk/article/uk-police-face-recognition-expansion

quote:

In August 2020, the UK’s Court of Appeal ruled that South Wales Police’s use of LFR was unlawful. Since then, police forces using the technology say they have changed their procedures in response to the court decision, and the Home Office spokesperson says there is a “comprehensive legal framework in the UK” that requires police to use the technology only when it is “necessary, proportionate, and fair.”

'necessary, proportionate, and fair' is a very vague term.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Walked past Leicester train station yesterday afternoon and past a tall white guy with a shock of white hair talking some absolute bollocks about wind turbines to a shorter bald Black man with a beard.

Midway through he broke conversation, waved enthusiastically at me and said "keep up the good work, we'll get them out" or similar. I gave a thumbs up, smiled, and continued walking as I didn't want any part of whatever the windmills are killing all the fish conversation was about.

It was only a few minutes later that I realized it was almost certainly Leicester's most famous lizardman theorist son complimenting me on my political views.
:chloe:

Going to have to ask my family for the space laser codes now.

Although given ^^^ I would have thought that "Lidl is using facial recognition to cut down on chorizo theft and bring in the cashless society" was moon iguana bullshit not too long ago.

Bobby Deluxe
May 9, 2004

It's so loving weak when they have to put 'funded by organised crime and probably also TERRORISTS' into press releases like that.

They know nobody really gives a poo poo about shoplifting, but if they pretend the mafia are ordering little darren to steal a creme egg, all of a sudden it incites enough disgust to turn Big Sainsburys into a low-rent Judge Dredd cosplay.

I was surprised last time I went in and didn't find what I was looking for, you need to now present a receipt to get out of any of the exits.

So if you forget your wallet, sorry, you belong to Sainsburys now.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

Mebh posted:

I still have some Camrath fudge in the door of my fridge that is over a year old that I can't bring myself to eat or chuck out :( he was such a good guy.

word of warning: my sister (the one with 9 cats) still has a mini birthday cake in her freezer that my aunt bought her for a birthday when she was going through a hard time and intended her to eat with a cup of tea, to cheer her up. that was november 1995

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
i ask her about it every birthday and i used to joke that if i outlived her i'd bury her with it but that's um... seeming a bit too real to joke about now

feedmegin
Jul 30, 2008

Bobby Deluxe posted:

I sometimes think about suggesting getting a D&D game going because I'd like a new group to play with, but also I'm terrible at discord and roll 20 and all the decent ways of playing remotely.

Tbh and having tried it, it's not the same experience as playing in person, anyway.

Granted I work from home so the last thing I want to do after 40 hours a week of being on Teams or whatever is being on a voice call in my leisure time.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

crispix posted:

word of warning: my sister (the one with 9 cats) still has a mini birthday cake in her freezer that my aunt bought her for a birthday when she was going through a hard time and intended her to eat with a cup of tea, to cheer her up. that was november 1995

My mother was like that but with chicken carcasses (left over after all the meat had been eaten) that she was always going to make "stock" out of but never did.
We deep cleaned the freezer for her one time and there were frozen chicken carcasses going back a decade or more. We binned them.
The other thing she was always collecting was pots of fat (dripping). Any time you looked in the fridge and went "ooh a pot of cream" (because cream was a rare treat in the parental home) and opened it, it would be full of dripping.
Fortunately her current home doesn't quite yet have a freezer only one of those titchy icebox things at the top of her under-the-counter fridge, and as it's just her there now, she rarely uses fat in cooking and only cooking for one so the opportunity to accumulate pots of fat has gone.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

His Divine Shadow posted:

There's a GBS UK thread too apparently and I looked into that one time, and by coincidence there was some guy there just making GBS threads all over Camrath, seemed to have a real beef with the guy and it just seemed to boil down to he thought he was too posh or something. I dunno what the point is, but that really got stuck in my mind after I read about his suicide and I couldn't help wonder what reading stuff like that about yourself would do if you were in a compromised mental state.

there have for a long time been a couple of nasty cunts there who really drag down the thread, yeah

i've pretty much given up on it since someone made dr cool aids IK and they put people on probation for posting anything remotely funny because that's funny, or something

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Guavanaut posted:

Walked past Leicester train station yesterday afternoon and past a tall white guy with a shock of white hair talking some absolute bollocks about wind turbines to a shorter bald Black man with a beard.

Midway through he broke conversation, waved enthusiastically at me and said "keep up the good work, we'll get them out" or similar. I gave a thumbs up, smiled, and continued walking as I didn't want any part of whatever the windmills are killing all the fish conversation was about.

It was only a few minutes later that I realized it was almost certainly Leicester's most famous lizardman theorist son complimenting me on my political views.
:chloe:

Going to have to ask my family for the space laser codes now.

Although given ^^^ I would have thought that "Lidl is using facial recognition to cut down on chorizo theft and bring in the cashless society" was moon iguana bullshit not too long ago.

New season of rick and morty sounding a bit tired tbh.

crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

My mother was like that but with chicken carcasses (left over after all the meat had been eaten) that she was always going to make "stock" out of but never did.

just to be clear, she kept the mini cake because the sentiment of my aunt doing such a nice thing at such a hard time made it impossible for her to eat it, not because she couldn't be bothered to eat it

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crispix
Mar 28, 2015

Grand-Maman m'a raconté
(Les éditions des amitiés franco-québécoises)

Hello, dear
(i don't eat meat and i read your post with mounting nausea looking for the similarity in the story lol)

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