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Ccs posted:This is interesting. I’ve seen other authors criticized in the past for cribbing sentences and sentence structure from earlier books but surprising to see it happened with one of the biggest names. Not to defend Dune but a few of those are literally just Caucus mountain proverbs that appeared in both, almost certainly introduced to Herbert by Blanch but not made up by her whole cloth. This comes around every few years.
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Yngwie Mangosteen posted:Not to defend Dune but a few of those are literally just Caucus mountain proverbs that appeared in both, almost certainly introduced to Herbert by Blanch but not made up by her whole cloth. This comes around every few years. And Chakobsa is a real language, also from the Caucasus, and those words were taken from it.
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I find it remarkable someone assembled that list but also thought a meteor in the sky when a leader dies is a novel idea to be stolen.
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Feb 19, 2024 18:06
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Red Mars (Mars #1) by Kim Stanley Robinson - $1.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000QCS914/ Hammerfall (Gene Wars #1) by CJ Cherryh - $1.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000FC122S/ The John Varley Reader: Thirty Years of Short Fiction - $1.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B08CZM2MFZ/ The Burning God (Poppy War #3) by RF Kuang - $2.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B084VP8KNB/
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Feb 19, 2024 18:14
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Slyphic posted:I find it remarkable someone assembled that list but also thought a meteor in the sky when a leader dies is a novel idea to be stolen. (Guy who has only read sabers of paradise, now reading about the emperor Constantine) whoa…getting some real sabers of paradise vibes here
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Feb 19, 2024 18:47
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it's kinda like if someone made a chart that said: wow this book uses katanas and has muramasa the swordsmith and talks about Bushido, and it uses words like keikaku and domo arigato just like this other book that came out a few years before it!
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Feb 19, 2024 19:00
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Slyphic posted:I find it remarkable someone assembled that list but also thought a meteor in the sky when a leader dies is a novel idea to be stolen. that's actually copied from the video game crusader kings
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Feb 19, 2024 19:17
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Every dlc adding another option that still just decreased stability was very funny.
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Feb 19, 2024 19:19
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I think my TBR Order is finishing Stormlight Archives > Red Rising > Sword of Kaigen. I want to read ASOIAF, but I don't want to be completely sucked in and then have to wait till GRRM decides actually to finish a book.
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Feb 19, 2024 19:28
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A Sneaker Broker posted:I think my TBR Order is finishing Stormlight Archives > Red Rising > Sword of Kaigen. I want to read ASOIAF, but I don't want to be completely sucked in and then have to wait till GRRM decides actually to finish a book. He's not finishing the series. Just gown that and you'll be a much happier person. Speaking of GRRM, I just re-read Tuf Voyaging and, so far, most of Dreamsongs vol. 1. Tuf Voyaging is excellent and has some really hard hitting and memorable scenes, highly recommended. Dreamsongs is an anthology organized by phases of his career and style. Early works, sci fi that got nominated for awards, horror, and so on. He's got introductions to each group of stories. In the preface to the horror section, he talks about which ones he thought were his best and why, and why he considered Sandkings to be his weakest out of the set. I can see why he thought that. In In the Meat House he crafted an inherently creepy and horrific setting, and then took his protagonist on a very tragic inner emotional arc. In Sandkings all he did was set up a horrible, absolute poo poo person and then have him get his just desserts. From the author's perspective, In the Meat House is the much more complicated and meaningful story. From a reader's perspective the only uncertainty is how many people he's going to drag down to hell with him. I also like how In the Meat House has person to person interstellar video calls, but no CallerID. Anyway, Dreamsongs has some truly great short fiction in it.
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Feb 19, 2024 19:40
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mllaneza posted:He's not finishing the series. Just gown that and you'll be a much happier person. Yeah, that's what I keep hearing and reading so in that case: Stormlight Archives > Red Rising Series > Sword of Kaigen > Mistborn Saga > Burning Series
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Does GRRM have any kids to cash in on his legacy and add 15 more ghostwritten books to the series?
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bagrada posted:Does GRRM have any kids to cash in on his legacy and add 15 more ghostwritten books to the series? he doesn't need to worry about a Brian Herbert situation god bless.
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Feb 19, 2024 21:20
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Yngwie Mangosteen posted:it's kinda like if someone made a chart that said: wow this book uses katanas and has muramasa the swordsmith and talks about Bushido, and it uses words like keikaku and domo arigato just like this other book that came out a few years before it! Not really, they're fairly clear borrowings.
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Feb 19, 2024 21:29
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I don't feel strongly enough to argue a ton, but it feels to me like they seem more directly taken because they both directly took from the source material of that culture. The direct borrowings are mostly the actual sayings from the people in the caucus mountains and actual words in the language they were taken from. And the stuff like a celestial event happening in concurrence with a worldly one to mark the fantastical or religious nature of the worldly event just aren't worth pointing out as appearing in both. It's ok if you disagree though, the books are both like 60 years old.
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Feb 19, 2024 22:14
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Pinterest Mom posted:I think more precisely, many of the human characters in Blindsight are coded as being non-neurotypical in some way, and Siri specifically is heavily coded (though not explicitly described) as autistic. Yes, clearly. Granting that my personal experience of the non-neurotypical is pretty much high-functioning people, you'd expect that a crew sent on this mission would also be high-functioning. To their credit, they acquit themselves better than the scientists in the movie Prometheus/ Actually, that's not giving them much credit at all. mllaneza posted:He's not finishing the series. Just gown that and you'll be a much happier person. The good news: GRRM left instructions to have another author finish ASoIaF should he die. The bad news: He wants Patrick Rothfuss to do it. Having a rough few weeks so I just read through Bridge of Birds in two days and am on to the sequels. Still pissed off there aren't more of them.
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pradmer posted:The Burning God (Poppy War #3) by RF Kuang - $2.99 anyone want to share their reckons on this series? I liked Babel a lot, mostly because the politics of it interested me, but I found the characters bland and the narrative poorly paced.
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Feb 20, 2024 02:00
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voiceless anal fricative posted:anyone want to share their reckons on this series? The first book in the series mixes in a lot of influences in its first half including some relatively enjoyable wizard school stuff before spiraling down into a fantasy version of the Sino-Japanese war from the 30s up to and including an extremely depressing and graphic version of the rape of Nanking/Nanjing. i finished that and the second book which is a brutal slog, is even grimmer and features the protagonist struggling unsuccessfully with a crippling heroin addiction and also PTSD, depression and generally being a complete dick to everyone. i dont know anything about the third book because you couldnt pay me enough to read it. buffalo all day fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Feb 20, 2024 |
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buffalo all day posted:The first book in the series mixes in a lot of influences in its first half including some relatively enjoyable wizard school stuff before spiraling down into a fantasy version of the Sino-Japanese war from the 30s up to and including an extremely depressing and graphic version of the rape of Nanking/Nanjing. i finished that and the second book which is a brutal slog, is even grimmer and features the protagonist struggling unsuccessfully with a crippling heroin addiction and also PTSD, depression and generally being a complete dick to everyone. i dont know anything about the third book because you couldnt pay me enough to read it. The third book is an even more depressing slog with an even more depressing ending
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I devoured Invader, the sequel. I think it's a far better book than Foreigner. Looking forward to reading the third one.
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voiceless anal fricative posted:anyone want to share their reckons on this series? Hi. I have strong opinions on The Poppy War: Leng posted:Alright, I have finished both Iron Widow and The Poppy War, as well as Scholomance. And interestingly, I liked Iron Widow and Scholomance more than I liked The Poppy War, which is not what I expected. Leng posted:Alright I have finished reading The Dragon Republic. It's basically more of what you get in The Poppy War. Uncanny valley of neither historical fiction nor original fantasy continues but now we're in the period where not-Britain makes its move. Rin continues being mostly passive, being pushed around by other characters, and seesawing wildly between one extreme to another. Characters and character relationships continue to be underdeveloped, though this book has slightly better character writing than the first book by virtue of having more pages to develop them. But I still do not buy Rin and Nezha. Or her other relationships with the Cike. At all. So the ending had very little emotional impact for me. But eh, it does what a sequel is supposed to do, so it's fine. Leng posted:Have now finished The Burning God. TL;DR: you will not get improved characters in TPW. Can't speak to pacing seeing as I rage-quit Babel but I don't recall it being a slog. But if East Asian fantasy is what you're after, imo there are a lot of much better written books out there.
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and go "Really? When did that happen?"
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voiceless anal fricative posted:anyone want to share their reckons on this series? i read the first book, and felt there was no reason to continue beyond that, both from a plot perspective and from a personal perspective (which is rare, since i'll read any old sequel if the first book even halfway interests me)
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Feb 20, 2024 07:05
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If you're reading pre-TSOIAF GRRM, please please read Fevre Dream.
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Kestral posted:The book is excellent sci-fi / horror on a lot of levels, and its strength isn't in a twist, but the crashing realization of everything that's happened up to that point is very effective. If you've read all the posts in the last couple pages, it will probably reduce your enjoyment of the book. The relative lack of spoiler tags has been pretty disappointing. Not having a go at you but it was published in 2006, at what point do supplier tags become redundant?
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Arsenic Lupin posted:If you're reading pre-TSOIAF GRRM, please please read Fevre Dream.
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Arsenic Lupin posted:If you're reading pre-TSOIAF GRRM, please please read Fevre Dream. The book where you start out with "gently caress this steamboat poo poo, where's the vampires" and end up "gently caress these vampires, I want steamboats!"
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branedotorg posted:Not having a go at you but it was published in 2006, at what point do supplier tags become redundant? When the piece of media is so ubiquitous that everyone knows Vader is Luke’s dad, as opposed to a fairly niche novel that I’ve barely ever seen discussed outside of SA.
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Kestral posted:When the piece of media is so ubiquitous that everyone knows Vader is Luke’s dad, as opposed to a fairly niche novel that I’ve barely ever seen discussed outside of SA. the desire to post 'he's WHAT' branedotorg posted:Not having a go at you but it was published in 2006, at what point do supplier tags become redundant? They never become redundant because there are always young readers who might be about to start a classic for the first time. (Note that I am murder mystery reader and if I get spoiled on whodunnit I explode into rage and hold a grudge)
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Inheritor, the third book in the Foreigner series, starts with a really hamfisted recap of the previous two books. That's such a terrible choice; the way the second book literally dragged the character out of his sickbed and tossed him into the continuation of the plot was one of the best parts about it.
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thotsky posted:Inheritor, the third book in the Foreigner series, starts with a really hamfisted recap of the previous two books. That's such a terrible choice; the way the second book literally dragged the character out of his sickbed and tossed him into the continuation of the plot was one of the best parts about it. Bad news: the hamfisted recaps will not go away and will become even more annoying as the series goes on. me, on my fourth reread of the tenth book: oh my god I know what a paidhi is
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there are so many of those books. my gosh.
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StrixNebulosa posted:the desire to post 'he's WHAT' lol I literally quoted it and wrote "the gently caress" before deciding it wasn't that funny and closed the window without posting, the impulse was a strong one
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StrixNebulosa posted:Bad news: the hamfisted recaps will not go away and will become even more annoying as the series goes on. Yeah I just skip them. I think it would be better (read: more skippable) if they were sectioned off into a distinct "previously on Foreigner" section, though.
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Short stories: Driving Blind by Ray Bradbury - $2.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00C4TJACO/ Now and Forever: Somewhere a Band Is Playing & Leviathan '99 by Ray Bradbury - $1.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00BS8P7W4/ More Than the Sum of His Parts: Collected Stories by Joe Haldeman - $3.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B088JPK61G/ And KJ Parker: Folding Knife - $1.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0035IICZO/ Sharps - $2.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07PCQYW8S/ Pattern (Scavenger #2) - $1.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00B3VX3Y0/ The Escapement (Engineer #3) - $1.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0010SEMLE/ Are any of Joe Haldeman's novels worth reading besides Forever War? He's got a bunch but I've never seen them mentioned.
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Maybe the Hemingway Hoax and Camouflage? They won prizes but I don't hear anyone talk about them ever
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pradmer posted:Are any of Joe Haldeman's novels worth reading besides Forever War? He's got a bunch but I've never seen them mentioned. He has a couple of interesting Star Trek books (in the old Bantam line, not the better-known Pocket Books one), and The Forever Peace is decent.
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