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I've seen that pitched (unsuccessfully) as a startup idea at my previous employer, I think the big issue was potential security implications and you'd probably need buy-in from Google and Apple as apps are fairly limited in what they can do. Interestingly and connecting it with the other discussion going on, it was also pitched for churches, to block people from using their phones inside. Which is an even bigger security nightmare. Private Speech fucked around with this message at 12:11 on Feb 20, 2024 |
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Zalakwe posted:It's possible if our government passed something for schools, some tech company or other would make a pretence at complying with whatever watered down thing is passed after years of lobbying but the idea they are going to start building bespoke hardware or software for the UK market is pretty fanciful imo. E: the Duolingo owl can do it, he’s already good at lowkey threatening everyone to show up to lessons
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Feb 20, 2024 12:10
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School was shite. This sounds better
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Feb 20, 2024 12:19
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TACD posted:E: the Duolingo owl can do it, he’s already good at lowkey threatening everyone to show up to lessons Bring back the anthropomorphic paperclip imo. Extreme job centre energy - now with AI! Voiced by your favourite tory minister for a monthly fee.
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Feb 20, 2024 12:25
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/Independent/status/1759862634474602740?t=ch09vLyR9SjGe-slo3zzLw&s=19 There is a question to look at about does completely unfiltered Internet access radicalise potentially vulnerable people. (I'm not talking about Briana here, rather I'm talking about the two kids who murdered her. ) But Briana's mum looking at her daughter being made "vulnerable by an addiction to social media." It just comes back to the point I make about how people cope with tragedies. They'd much rather believe a false narrative which offers a simple solution ("no social media for kids = my daughter would be alive.") instead of a deeply complicated truth. ("Much of society is aligned towards violence against anyone who is isolated enough. Only fix is to reduce violence in society or provide more support structures to prevent isolation.")
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Feb 20, 2024 12:44
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Just wondering how everyone will cope when the SMS card (or whatever form reception might come in) gets integrated into your brain so you don't need a separate device? Decided to google that after thinking it up and didn't know this stuff was so far advanced already: https://tech.facebook.com/reality-labs/2020/3/imagining-a-new-interface-hands-free-communication-without-saying-a-word/ https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/18/synchron-backed-by-bezos-and-gates-tests-brain-computer-interface.html https://neuralink.com/ The Question IRL posted:There is a question to look at about does completely unfiltered Internet access radicalise potentially vulnerable people. (I'm not talking about Briana here, rather I'm talking about the two kids who murdered her. ) The Bulger murder occurred in 1993 when social media wasn't a thing at all. I'm sure there are plenty of other examples around. "Evil" exists whether it is instigated by some satanic being or a result of social pressures. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 12:51 on Feb 20, 2024 |
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Feb 20, 2024 12:45
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The forums being better is only really because so few people use it. This place is still a logistical nightmare to moderate. Look how lovely any major thread like I/P or Trump election gets. Forums just don't scale, which is why short form social media was invented. This place is closer to sitting down to read a book than it is to TikTok.
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Feb 20, 2024 13:02
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Needs more pictures
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Feb 20, 2024 13:06
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Mebh posted:The forums being better is only really because so few people use it. This place is still a logistical nightmare to moderate. Look how lovely any major thread like I/P or Trump election gets. Forums just don't scale, which is why short form social media was invented. I dislike this notion everything has to scale. I like small scale stuff.
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Feb 20, 2024 13:08
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:The Bulger murder occurred in 1993 when social media wasn't a thing at all. I'm sure there are plenty of other examples around. "Evil" exists whether it is instigated by some satanic being or a result of social pressures. True, and you're not the first person I've heard mention the Bulger case in comparison to Brianna Ghey. But the press at the time really went heavily into that the murderers were directly copying the violence of the Chucky films and there was a whole cross media campaign to get "video nasties" taken off the shelves. I think that's slipped out of memory, even the latest episode of TrashFuture forgets this when they're contrasting the two. Yeah there was no social media but there was still a "corrupting influence" that had to account for why someone should do something so terrible because it's easier to accept that than that sometimes people just do grotesquely evil poo poo. Esther Ghey is mourning and I worry she's being latched onto by a press and politicians that would rather look anywhere than themselves and the transphobia they've been pushing as the answer, but like, I'm not going to be mad at her for it, frankly in that situation I'd look for comfort wherever I could find it. We absolutely shouldn't let the press and the politicians off the hook though
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Feb 20, 2024 13:09
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His Divine Shadow posted:I dislike this notion everything has to scale. I like small scale stuff. Sure but tell that to 5 billion people that want social media pumped into their eyeballs. We're all here I assume for similar reasons. It's nicer here and smaller scale.
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Feb 20, 2024 13:10
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NotJustANumber99 posted:Needs more pictures Either imgur or the app is broken atm so there's gonna be a drop in picture supply, sorry. Houthies did it probably. Pictures are going around the cape
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Feb 20, 2024 13:13
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The Question IRL posted:There is a question to look at about does completely unfiltered Internet access radicalise potentially vulnerable people. (I'm not talking about Briana here, rather I'm talking about the two kids who murdered her. ) There absolutely is, however this is the kind of radicalisation that is 100% mainstream in British Press and it's all a desperate attempt to deflect their own responsibility while still giving column inches to the most abject bigots going.
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Feb 20, 2024 13:37
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Just wondering how everyone will cope when the SMS card (or whatever form reception might come in) gets integrated into your brain so you don't need a separate device? It isn't, yet, don't worry. Bezos and Musk are both complete nutcases let's not forget.
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Feb 20, 2024 13:41
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Neuralink is nothing more than a monkey torturing device, and it'll likely remain the same for many years to come
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Feb 20, 2024 13:45
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Unless you got the third vaccination.
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Feb 20, 2024 13:48
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fuctifino posted:Neuralink is nothing more than a monkey torturing device, and it'll likely remain the same for many years to come So you're not signing up for the clinical trials then? 
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Feb 20, 2024 14:00
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Mebh posted:The forums being better is only really because so few people use it. This place is still a logistical nightmare to moderate. Look how lovely any major thread like I/P or Trump election gets. Forums just don't scale, which is why short form social media was invented. Forums are fundamentally better because theres no algorithm at work. Forums dont see you pause on a video for 5 seconds instead of immediately scrolling so it then queues up 10 videos similar to it. Or it doesnt see you reply or 'like' a post or topic from some random that in a vacuum is funny or interesting but when viewed in a wider context is insane. You also have to put serious effort into finding nutcase communities. You can post flat earth bullshit on twitter and get 500 people reply that you are in fact correct pretty quickly, but you had to specifically search it out pre social media. It was hard work to find the forums full of people that think the Queen is a lizard and that served as an inherent barrier that maybe only insane people thought it. I'm using extreme examples here but legitimately the algorithm that serves up recommendations on TikTok, Reels, Facebook and Youtube is one of the most dangerous things released onto the internet. Create a fresh profile on your computer and view youtube. Watch the wrong video and within 5 minutes all of your recommendations are going down the various rabbit holes off of that. If you want to understand how Andrew Tate, or Jordan Peterson etc get so many young lads watching them its because they stumbled on it through the feed. Same for people with eating disorders, its so so easy to find that content. Your example of the I/P thread is also good one. If I dont want to read that thread I can just not click on it. I dont see posts from it in my suggested feed in between posts about Cycling. Nor do I see similar posts by contibutors about right wing shithouse bullshit because enough people that read the IP thread also interacted with those videos so youtube thinks its the next logical step to keep your eyeballs on its advertisements. I dunno, i'm sure theres much smarter ways of writing what I just did but social media, and in particular the instant and constant access to it, has done far more societal harm than a lot of people think.
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Feb 20, 2024 14:00
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I'm pretty sure I thought assange was dead
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Feb 20, 2024 14:03
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Zalakwe posted:The online safety bill passed precisely because it doesn't do anything. The Government hasn't taken on the tech giants and won in any meaningful way at all. It's a total regulatory failure. If it were otherwise the companies involved would either have pulled out of the UK or would be desperately trying to solve the technical challenges involved. As is, they've just said "sorry lads, it isn't possible" and continued pretty much as normal. This is by design, there is no political will for it the situation to be otherwise and even if there was it's unlikely we have the power to force change. Occasionally someone might turn up at a committee and get a telling off but meh. Such software and hardware wouldn't necessarily need to be for the UK market alone. Like, these sorts of systems are potentially a selling point for apple and google. They can be marketed to parents as systems which safeguard child learning, they can be marketed to schools as better alternatives to trash-tier android tablets. Whack on a mandatory subscription fee per school for the service and the companies even get to siphon cash straight out of the education budgets of most rich nations (not saying this bit is good, but it's what I'd see happening). All for the cost of a second parental control layer in the OS? I do agree that this is a harder sell for the UK government specifically, but it hardly needs to be the case that such a solution would be pushed by the UK. If the EU or (less likely) the US pushed a scheme like it, I think Apple and Google would have no choice but to comply. That said, we saw Google get really salty over the whole link tax thing in Canada, threatening to pull out and even disabling news links for all Canadians, but eventually they decided paying $100m in tax was preferable to losing the revenue from news content. If something like a mandate for school-specific parental controls passed in the UK, they'd have to weigh up if the cost of implementing that was larger or smaller than their revenue from the UK. Knowing nothing about software development I have no idea how much an OS change costs--I expect it's rather expensive--but given that companies like Apple have revenues over £1b from sales in the UK every year, I don't think it's far fetched to imagine that if faced with some robust regulation that the two big phone OS companies would rather comply than pull out of the country.
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Feb 20, 2024 14:11
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fuctifino posted:Twitter is nothing more than a monkey torturing device, and it'll likely remain the same for many years to come
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Feb 20, 2024 14:31
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His Divine Shadow posted:I dislike this notion everything has to scale. I like small scale stuff. Small is still a scale 
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Feb 20, 2024 14:46
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I mean it all comes down to capitalism as everything does. The algorithm is only there because it keeps eyes on screens more and allows data to be harvested and sold. It didn't start like that, but evolved out of a need to monetize the hugely able to scale systems that were created first, mostly because forums were niche and people in general don't reliably go through more than a single layer of UI to find what they want (why bookmarks are a thing here)
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Feb 20, 2024 14:47
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Gonzo McFee posted:There absolutely is, however this is the kind of radicalisation that is 100% mainstream in British Press and it's all a desperate attempt to deflect their own responsibility while still giving column inches to the most abject bigots going. Yeah it’s good to know that the slight empathy towards trans people is now over. It’s so odd that the actual reasons for Brianna’s death are being ignored. And by “odd” I mean “this is absolutely what I expected”. The use of her mother to lead a charge on this is revolting though, didn’t see that happening.
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Feb 20, 2024 14:49
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What is Reddit?
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Feb 20, 2024 14:51
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NotJustANumber99 posted:What is Reddit? A miserable pile of posters.
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Feb 20, 2024 14:52
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keep punching joe posted:A miserable pile of posters. E: Also, Good News Everyone! The crown logo will now be slightly pointer!  https://twitter.com/PaulOnBooks/status/1759751476254052449?t=-0nIM5beSDoxN1C9-R4bdA&s=19 (This will cost many millions  )
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Feb 20, 2024 14:53
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Failed Imagineer posted:E: I work for a UK police force (I know, I know ACAB) and we are now going to have to replace thousands of items of uniform, signage, stationary and vehicle livery. All for a fractionally different pointy hat on our logo. Also, we are going to be getting dozens of portraits of ol' sausage fingers himself to hang up in our offices and stations. Looking forward to spending my working day under Charlie's venomous stare.
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Feb 20, 2024 15:33
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Sadsack posted:I work for a UK police force (I know, I know ACAB) and we are now going to have to replace thousands of items of uniform, signage, stationary and vehicle livery. All for a fractionally different pointy hat on our logo. Can I have your old uniforms and vehicle livery?
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Feb 20, 2024 15:37
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/israel-antisemitism-birth-certificate-home-office-b2498968.htmlquote:Baby’s birth certificate returned from Home Office ‘with Israel scribbled out’ Wonder what the truth of it is? Do you think someone at the Home Office would have done this? I can think of other  things that might have happened.
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Feb 20, 2024 15:38
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I need to see the two different crowns to make a decision as to whether this is worth it.
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Feb 20, 2024 15:38
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Labour are finally calling for a ceasefire. I guess the focus group changed their stance https://twitter.com/DavidLammy/status/1759945605235851436
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Feb 20, 2024 15:38
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Sadsack posted:I work for a UK police force (I know, I know ACAB) and we are now going to have to replace thousands of items of uniform, signage, stationary and vehicle livery. All for a fractionally different pointy hat on our logo. Police forces should send the bill to Charlie Boy. What an utter waste of public money. If he really thought of it & some bunch of marketing folk didn't just suggest it, he probably has no idea of the consequences (financial) of doing this. Or possibly just expected new stuff to be using the new logo not existing stock. (This sort of thing used to happen all the time in the NHS when I worked there, every time there was a reorganisation or whatever, new logo (£50k to get a different shade of blue or different shaped heart etc, new stationery, etc.)
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Feb 20, 2024 15:41
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Royal Keynesianism
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Feb 20, 2024 15:42
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Failed Imagineer posted:E: He's desperate to leave some kind of mark on the country before he carks it, isn't he. Wonder how long the docs have told him he's likely to last.
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Feb 20, 2024 15:56
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NotJustANumber99 posted:I need to see the two different crowns to make a decision as to whether this is worth it. You can see them here: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-68341982.amp As you can clearly see, a seismic difference.
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Feb 20, 2024 16:00
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:(This sort of thing used to happen all the time in the NHS when I worked there, every time there was a reorganisation or whatever, new logo (£50k to get a different shade of blue or different shaped heart etc, new stationery, etc.) E: the difference being the new logo takes ten seconds to stretch up 5% in illustrator. Whereas the parasite in chief's new stupid hat costs an astronomical amount in gold and gems and endangered animals to look slightly different to his mum's, and then you have all the associated costs to rebrand evetything so it looks like the new stupid hat. Bobby Deluxe fucked around with this message at 16:09 on Feb 20, 2024 |
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Feb 20, 2024 16:05
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Why haven't we guillotined this lot yet?
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Feb 20, 2024 16:06
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I can't see anywhere discussing the cost of this poo poo, except for the .gov website assuring people the cost of updating it on that website came out of already budgeted running cost.
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Apparently it's the old queen's fault. She changed it, the king is just changing it back to what it was before.
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