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Color Printer
May 9, 2011

You get used to it. I don't
even see the code. All I see
is Ipecac, Scapular, Polyphemus...


Quantum of Phallus posted:

What’s the use of the joker that turns face cards gold when played? Or does it need to be worked into a gold deck run

money

It also synergies with cards like Vampire (turns them back into regular cards for multiplier-multiplier, which can be turned back into gold, etc.) or the joker that makes all cards count as face cards (for more money). And probably even more that I'm forgetting

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Color Printer
May 9, 2011

You get used to it. I don't
even see the code. All I see
is Ipecac, Scapular, Polyphemus...


TwoStepBoog posted:

The wheel of fortune is not happy with me--that's okay, I'll still keep buying that garbage.

Quantum of Phallus
Dec 27, 2010

Color Printer posted:

money

It also synergies with cards like Vampire (turns them back into regular cards for multiplier-multiplier, which can be turned back into gold, etc.) or the joker that makes all cards count as face cards (for more money). And probably even more that I'm forgetting

But do you not only get the money if you don’t play them?

FPyat
Jan 17, 2020
Shops on red stake seem tailor designed to screw you over if you have something like Constellation or a negative tag. I've been beating my head against it with green deck to no avail, maybe another deck will do better.

Nemo2342
Nov 26, 2007

Have A Day




Nap Ghost


I went from not winning any games to whatever the heck this was (my 2nd ever win).

This was the real star of the show:



Blueprint doubling a 9.5x Canio just murdered blinds left and right, and I had 2 Pair at level 11 (and most other hands above 5 or 6) thanks to all the free planets I was getting.

I should have ditched the 8 ball, but I got greedy trying to level up more hands.

Hell Yeah
Dec 25, 2012

can't decide what feels better. balatro, or loving raw and busting inside.

Lichtenstein
May 31, 2012

It'll make sense, eventually.

Quantum of Phallus posted:

But do you not only get the money if you don’t play them?

If you have 12+ gold cards after a couple of rounds there'll always be one or two spare face card hanging around in your hand.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
This game is rad. Seems pretty well balanced, and gives you the ability to start the roguelike steamroll without stopping you which is cool. In some cases it seems like you're expected to know how to do it!



My first game after the tutorial. I had Space Joker for most of it. A massively leveled two pair of even hearts with Lusty Joker (why) got me the best hand there.



This thing saved my rear end twice. 1.5x mult and +50 chips together. Sticking a Hierophant on it made a Bonus Card totaling +100 chips nearly beat my best hand.

Best combo of seals/editions/foils you've seen? It's so fun to just gobble up new weird card combinations and see if they help.

CJacobs fucked around with this message at 12:10 on Feb 22, 2024

Infinitum
Jul 30, 2004


Why was the final boss on Ante 8 the stupid one that triples the required score.

I scored 246k / 300k :negative:

If it was a 'normal' boss I'd have only have needed 100k :negative:

I had a broke AF High Card x12 deck with multipliers and chips everywhere :negative:

Oh well, next run :gritin:

Pwnstar posted:



The get murdered by casino security deck

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Video Games > Balatro: The Return of Johnny Forty Six Aces

Elman
Oct 26, 2009

CJacobs posted:

This game is rad. Seems pretty well balanced, and gives you the ability to start the roguelike steamroll without stopping you which is cool. In some cases it seems like you're expected to know how to do it!



My first game after the tutorial. I had Space Joker for most of it. A massively leveled two pair of even hearts with Lusty Joker (why) got me the best hand there.



This thing saved my rear end twice. 1.5x mult and +50 chips together. Sticking a Hierophant on it made a Bonus Card totaling +100 chips nearly beat my best hand.

Best combo of seals/editions/foils you've seen? It's so fun to just gobble up new weird card combinations and see if they help.

I wish it was more clear which card effects are compatible with each other. Yeah I know editions are different from card types but it's a bit ambiguous sometimes. Glass and stone cards look like card editions but they're not.

Elman fucked around with this message at 12:44 on Feb 22, 2024

Arcanuse
Mar 15, 2019


absolutely bonkers luck. run still going. dont think i owe any infernal powers for this, not entirely sure though

e: instant hubris karma as the very next small blind got me. still, gives a good idea of what its gonna take to crack the highest Ante's
e2: yknow what thats probably enough balatro for one night, got some good unlocks that'll really help future runs

Arcanuse fucked around with this message at 13:21 on Feb 22, 2024

Tafferling
Oct 22, 2008

DOOT DOOT
ALL ABOARD THE ISS POLOKONZERVA

Elman posted:

I wish it was more clear which card effects are compatible with each other. Yeah I know editions are different from card types but it's a bit ambiguous sometimes. Glass and stone cards look like card editions but they're not.

Yeah, maybe just a bit of color coding will suffice. It will become a necessity if future expansions plan to have more manipulation sinergies.

Desdinova
Dec 16, 2004
I had to be on my toes, like a midget at a urinal!

Infinitum posted:

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Video Games > Balatro: The Return of Johnny Forty Six Aces

:emptyquote:

Anyone else getting Inscryption vibes from the SFX?

Desdinova fucked around with this message at 13:24 on Feb 22, 2024

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!


[as gollum] The aces of spadeses, the aces of spadeses

WarEternal
Dec 26, 2010

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

Arcanuse posted:


absolutely bonkers luck. run still going. dont think i owe any infernal powers for this, not entirely sure though

e: instant hubris karma as the very next small blind got me. still, gives a good idea of what its gonna take to crack the highest Ante's
e2: yknow what thats probably enough balatro for one night, got some good unlocks that'll really help future runs

Woah, is that getting to 13 or finishing 13? I can't quite remember how it's set up from the UI.

I can pretty consistently win on white stake with every deck but black now. I haven't gotten past the 300m small blind at 12 yet, though.

Unrelated: I'm pretty sure the seeds for runs are super specific, like you'll even draw the same cards? Might be fun to share seeds and record runs to see how different people go about playing the same seeds.

sirtommygunn
Mar 7, 2013



Nemo2342 posted:



I went from not winning any games to whatever the heck this was (my 2nd ever win).

This was the real star of the show:



Blueprint doubling a 9.5x Canio just murdered blinds left and right, and I had 2 Pair at level 11 (and most other hands above 5 or 6) thanks to all the free planets I was getting.

I should have ditched the 8 ball, but I got greedy trying to level up more hands.

Put your your xmultiplier jokers to the right so they're applied last, it will make a big difference in your score.

xf86enodev
Mar 27, 2010

dis catte!

Hell Yeah posted:

can't decide what feels better. balatro, or loving raw and busting inside.

why not both? :wink:

Jossar
Apr 2, 2018

Current status: Angry about subs :argh:


Game ate my win screen, but this was one of those runs that felt bonkers in every respect but score. Three negative Jokers and a Legendary (8 in total), constant Flush Fives in 3s of Hearts, and I still couldn't crack a couple of mil per hand. I think I'm coming around on Yorick, though he does require way too much prep time to be useful for anything but the final normal ante unless you get him really early on.

EDIT: Added Arcanuse's big money run to the front. Let people want me to add one of the Aces ones, just a little hesitant on the all-Aces ones since it was technically cheated in, although due to the Smeared Joker in play was functionally the same as unaltered. Probably going to ask for the thread rename though, if the mods will allow it, although it does look like someone might have asked for it by reporting the OP? Could just be left over from the Poker tag change.

Jossar fucked around with this message at 14:46 on Feb 22, 2024

xf86enodev
Mar 27, 2010

dis catte!

Infinitum posted:

The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Video Games > Balatro: The Return of Johnny Forty Six Aces

Also this

Arcanuse
Mar 15, 2019

WarEternal posted:

Woah, is that getting to 13 or finishing 13? I can't quite remember how it's set up from the UI.

I can pretty consistently win on white stake with every deck but black now. I haven't gotten past the 300m small blind at 12 yet, though.

Unrelated: I'm pretty sure the seeds for runs are super specific, like you'll even draw the same cards? Might be fun to share seeds and record runs to see how different people go about playing the same seeds.

Finished 13, lost on 14/Small Blind. As it happens, did get the endscreen for this:

Jokers think depend on personal unlocks, but the seed may still be useful anyways. Best of luck with it.

Amorphous Abode
Apr 2, 2010


We may have finally found unobtainium but I will never find eywa.

Well this was fun:





(I also had the Rocket for most of this game, very handily sidestepping the -no money from unplayed hands- aspect of this poverty build.)

Kin
Nov 4, 2003

Sometimes, in a city this dirty, you need a real hero.
Have I missed something obvious about how the Decks work?

I unlocked the second (blue?) one that mentioned +1 hand per round and I thought it sounded great, as I'd get an extra turn per game. But it doesn't seem to do anything; every game has just 5 hands.

Harlock
Jan 15, 2006

Tap "A" to drink!!!

Kin posted:

Have I missed something obvious about how the Decks work?

I unlocked the second (blue?) one that mentioned +1 hand per round and I thought it sounded great, as I'd get an extra turn per game. But it doesn't seem to do anything; every game has just 5 hands.
The default is 4 hands per round, you start with 5.

smoobles
Sep 4, 2014

Man, I've never been a fan of roguelikes but this game has me loving hooked. I am addicted and have bought it on PS5, Switch and PC so I can get my fix anytime of day anywhere in the world.

This goddamn game.

smoobles
Sep 4, 2014

I've become the Jokers.

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
Is that a Stealers Wheel reference lol



Clowns to the left of me, Jokers to the right...

Here I am, stuck in the middle with deuces.

Veryslightlymad
Jun 3, 2007

I fight with
my brain
and with an
underlying
hatred of the
Erebonian
Noble Faction
After what I learned about multi triggering, I now need to try a deck with a ton of red sealed steel cards.

Arcanuse
Mar 15, 2019

ooh front page, nice

and yeah, Triggers are King as one Triboulet (2x Multiplier on King/Queen scoring) shows.
...buuut with the important caveat that Retriggs are only as useful as the cards getting retriggered.
Some extra chips are nice, but disgusting multiplier stacking is the real good stuff.

e: some vaguely useful fun numbers for the front page and folks; E.G. Why extra triggers and effects proccing off triggers are important

quote:

Let's start with a basic Glass card.
That's a 2x (2x) Multiplier, simple enough.
Now let's make it a Polychrome Glass card.
Now it's 2x/1.5x (3x). A little better.
And let's give it a Red Seal. Red Seals cause a played card to trigger an additional time, and both the above effects are applied on trigger.
So, this would give it 2x/2x/1.5x/1.5x (9x)!

But we're just getting started.
Say this cards a king and you have, yes, Triboulet.
Now it's 2x/2x/2x/2x/1.5/1.5. (36x) Juicy, powerful, liable to explode don't worry about that.

Now let's put a Blueprint left of it, for another 2x/2x.
2x/2x/2x/2x/2x/2x1.5/1.5. (144x)

And lets add... Oh, Sock and Buskin. Now, this ones special, giving another trigger to face cards. So that (144x) becomes...
2x/2x/2x/2x/2x/2x//2x/2x/2x//1.5/1.5/1.5 (1728x)

and what the hell, we're this deep in lets slap a Brainstorm on the right (still keeping Blueprint and Triboulet neighbors), duplicating Sock and Buskin.
2x/2x/2x/2x2x/2x/2x/2x/2x/2x/2x/2x/1.5/1.5/1.5/1.5 (20736x)

now that's a big multiplier! except no, it's just one card. You get up to five.
[1]: (20736x)
[2]: (429,981,696x)
[3]: (8,916,100,448,256x)
[4]: (184,884,258,895,036,416x)
[5]: (3,833,759,992,447,475,122,176x)

and let's not forget steel cards for an extra 1.5 each, or a joker to trigger those again or planets buffing base multiplier and chips-
Look, you get the point.
Even under actual, non-theoretical limits, triggers are important and if anyone would actually reaches nevermind clears Ante 16 without severe trigger abuse I'll be shocked.

Arcanuse fucked around with this message at 16:39 on Feb 22, 2024

err
Apr 11, 2005

I carry my own weight no matter how heavy this shit gets...
can anyone recommend a youtuber/streamer that talks strategies?

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR


We've got more Queens than....!

Uh.....

I dunno, somebody finish this one for me.

Slum Loser
May 6, 2011
The black deck is giving me a rough time. You think one extra joker slot is worth anything and then you die penniless for your hubris.

I've never restarted runs or died on ante 1 or 2 this often, or just scraped by into ante 5 and later.

Only a good flush or better can beat the first hand in one round, which feels necessary to have a shot at buying the very cool poo poo you need to continue or make use of the deck power... it's a good "gently caress it" deck I guess because it forces you play really tactically but also just spend money knowing you need everything to make those 3 default hands count...

the holy poopacy
May 16, 2009

hey! check this out
Fun Shoe

Slum Loser posted:

The black deck is giving me a rough time. You think one extra joker slot is worth anything and then you die penniless for your hubris.

I've never restarted runs or died on ante 1 or 2 this often, or just scraped by into ante 5 and later.

Only a good flush or better can beat the first hand in one round, which feels necessary to have a shot at buying the very cool poo poo you need to continue or make use of the deck power... it's a good "gently caress it" deck I guess because it forces you play really tactically but also just spend money knowing you need everything to make those 3 default hands count...

My advice is skip the first two blinds and then go for broke on the boss. Yes, it takes a fair bit of luck to get two straights or better in 3 hands but it's actually reasonably doable and the rewards from skipping are generally better than what you'd get playing through the first two rounds normally. If the shop doesn't cooperate you may not be much better off on the boss anyhow and the big blind is just an added point of failure if you get particularly unlucky.

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR
Okay, I'm at a crossroads and need some advice.



My Jokers are:
Business Card - Face Cards have a 50% chance to give $2 when scored.
Spare Trousers - Gives +2 mult if playued hands contains a two pair (Currently +70 mult) (Holographic - +10 mult)
Abstract Joker - +3 mult for each Joker card (Currently +15 mult) (Polychrome - x1.5 mult)
THE BULL - +2 chips for every dollar you have (Currently +506 chips) (Polychrome - X1.5 mult)
Card Sharp - X3 Mult if played poker hand has already been played this round.

And the one in the shop is "+13 mult for each Queen in hand".

As implied in my last post, I have FOURTEEN QUEENS in my deck (as well as 7 Kings and 9 Jacks). So this is really tempting! But I dunno who I sell to make it happen. Do I sell Abstract, giving up one of my Polychromes? Do I sell Business Card, giving up my money scaling and slowing down THE BULL? Or do I just not pick up the Queen at all?

Slum Loser
May 6, 2011
Oh I'm looking out for good skip tags but not really getting them. Doubling my $4 and getting free rerolls plus beating a boss on lucky draws is not attractive.

BAD AT STUFF
May 10, 2012

We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because fuck you.

CJacobs posted:

Best combo of seals/editions/foils you've seen? It's so fun to just gobble up new weird card combinations and see if they help.

I had the Baron joker (Each King held in hand gives X1.5 Mult), and then one of my kings was steel with a red seal. Steel obviously triggered twice, but I think Baron may have also. It was super nice and got me through the mid level antes before I found more sources of mult.

Arcanuse
Mar 15, 2019


tacked on... something? putting emphasis on the value of triggers to this post. no secret tricks, but has big multipliers
(or TLDR the best possible deck I can think of consists almost purely of Red Sealed Glass Polychrome Queens or Kings, with a few steel cards to spice and god help you actually making that happen)

Kuros
Sep 13, 2010

Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.

MJeff posted:

Okay, I'm at a crossroads and need some advice.



My Jokers are:
Business Card - Face Cards have a 50% chance to give $2 when scored.
Spare Trousers - Gives +2 mult if playued hands contains a two pair (Currently +70 mult) (Holographic - +10 mult)
Abstract Joker - +3 mult for each Joker card (Currently +15 mult) (Polychrome - x1.5 mult)
THE BULL - +2 chips for every dollar you have (Currently +506 chips) (Polychrome - X1.5 mult)
Card Sharp - X3 Mult if played poker hand has already been played this round.

And the one in the shop is "+13 mult for each Queen in hand".

As implied in my last post, I have FOURTEEN QUEENS in my deck (as well as 7 Kings and 9 Jacks). So this is really tempting! But I dunno who I sell to make it happen. Do I sell Abstract, giving up one of my Polychromes? Do I sell Business Card, giving up my money scaling and slowing down THE BULL? Or do I just not pick up the Queen at all?

Depending on what tags you picked up this run, if you have the ability to get $10-20 from your interest, you can probably just sell Business Card as while it's helping with The Bull, it isn't directly helping with scaling. It also depends on what hands you are playing and your available hand size. While +13 mult per Queen sounds great, you have to first draw those queens and then not play those queens for other hands. You'll have to consider if an extra 0-52 mult is worth it.

President Ark
May 16, 2010

:iiam:
i can't believe someone released digital heroin on the steam store and called it ball latte

Mons Hubris
Aug 29, 2004

fanci flup :)


MJeff posted:

Okay, I'm at a crossroads and need some advice.



My Jokers are:
Business Card - Face Cards have a 50% chance to give $2 when scored.
Spare Trousers - Gives +2 mult if playued hands contains a two pair (Currently +70 mult) (Holographic - +10 mult)
Abstract Joker - +3 mult for each Joker card (Currently +15 mult) (Polychrome - x1.5 mult)
THE BULL - +2 chips for every dollar you have (Currently +506 chips) (Polychrome - X1.5 mult)
Card Sharp - X3 Mult if played poker hand has already been played this round.

And the one in the shop is "+13 mult for each Queen in hand".

As implied in my last post, I have FOURTEEN QUEENS in my deck (as well as 7 Kings and 9 Jacks). So this is really tempting! But I dunno who I sell to make it happen. Do I sell Abstract, giving up one of my Polychromes? Do I sell Business Card, giving up my money scaling and slowing down THE BULL? Or do I just not pick up the Queen at all?

I'd probably sell Business Card, but I don't really know what I'm doing. It seems like you have plenty of money and the chip bonus from THE BULL is going to be small potatoes compared to te 1.5X.

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MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR
I sold Business Card and picked up Shoot the Moon. I think it was the right call because the next boss was 1.1 mil Serpent (only draw 3 cards after play/discard) and I barely squeaked by him with the extra mult I was able to scrape together. Pretty sure I would've lost with Business Card.

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