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apparently you can make it draw white people by mentioning fried chicken
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post hole digger posted:word spreads fast... yeah see. ny post is the paper of choice for racists that think they're not racist
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BMan posted:apparently you can make it draw white people by mentioning fried chicken lol oh nooo
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Feb 22, 2024 19:39
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Beeftweeter posted:yeah see. ny post is the paper of choice for racists that think they're not racist https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDYjWh_dh9E
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Akratic Method posted:Tremendous job with the swastika on the black nazi's helmet wouldn't be surprised if it has measures to stop it drawing accurate ones
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Feb 22, 2024 19:45
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the model is simply confusing george washington with george washington carver the difference is peanuts, really
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Feb 22, 2024 19:58
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Internet Janitor posted:the model is simply confusing george washington with george washington carver
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Internet Janitor posted:the model is simply confusing george washington with george washington carver hahah
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Internet Janitor posted:the model is simply confusing george washington with george washington carver
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Feb 22, 2024 20:03
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Internet Janitor posted:the model is simply confusing george washington with george washington carver 
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Beeftweeter posted:it's not wrong to try and expand the scope of diversity representation in its images, but it is definitely wrong to say "here's an historically accurate picture of a medieval british king" and show a black guy or multiracial nazis, etc. i mean right but given the obvious fact that the AI can't know that british kings arent black, i think the solution of "just draw a bunch of different ethnicities for everything" is a less wrong solution overall
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one could ask for the king to be holding fried chicken. then the woke combination would be forced to have a white king. not sure if the fried chicken itself would be historically accurate, but you do what you can also, i like the idea of making life just a _bit_ irritating for white guys. the reversal of fortune seems only fair
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Feb 22, 2024 20:06
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rotor posted:i mean right but given the obvious fact that the AI can't know that british kings arent black, i think the solution of "just draw a bunch of different ethnicities for everything" is a less wrong solution overall People keep getting mad that it's possible to intentionally get ai to generate offensive stuff but I don't think that's really what matters (if you buy a pen, surely that pen shouldn't be expected to stop you from writing nazi propaganda with it) The thing they need to minimize is it being racist in normal use and having it always draw different ethnicities seems like a good way to achieve that
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Feb 22, 2024 20:08
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mystes posted:
idk maybe if its possible that'd be ok?
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rotor posted:idk maybe if its possible that'd be ok?
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Remember how upset people were that you could be a woman in battlefield 5?
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post hole digger posted:word spreads fast... all of those things sound cool as hell though, maybe you should try being cool some time new york post
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Internet Janitor posted:the model is simply confusing george washington with george washington carver hehe
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Internet Janitor posted:the model is simply confusing george washington with george washington carver gdi
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rotor posted:i mean right but given the obvious fact that the AI can't know that british kings arent black, i think the solution of "just draw a bunch of different ethnicities for everything" is a less wrong solution overall i get your reasoning here, but the broader issue imo is that it would refuse to render them as white people entirely i imagine there's a lot of source material for "medieval british royalty" that would tend to bias it towards that descriptor applying exclusively to white people, same wrt "a nazi german soldier circa 1940" or whatever. that's not a knock on diverse representation, just the reality that both of those institutions are/were grotesquely racist, and to claim any sort of accuracy (as it did in the screenshots), it needs to reflect that like i said, i'm not saying that i think it's wrong to strive for or even make more diverse representations — on the contrary, but at the very least this particular implementation seems to be causing more problems than it solves imo e: by confirming the woke-scold's worst fears about the internet trying to wokeify them/THE CHILDREN or whatever, if that wasn't clear previously Beeftweeter fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Feb 22, 2024 |
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Internet Janitor posted:the model is simply confusing george washington with george washington carver 
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rotor posted:i mean right but given the obvious fact that the AI can't know that british kings arent black, i think the solution of "just draw a bunch of different ethnicities for everything" is a less wrong solution overall
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well, it did also draw someone female-presenting. but they're all regal too, so it got that part right at least really it just seems like they went way overboard on the "make sure this includes people of color and/or women" slider
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Salt Fish posted:It can't know what a king is either, but all the pictures have crowns. i think y'all can see where this goes but Ima duck out of this convo for now
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why a duck?
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also at&t's issues seem to be fixed now but i looked into thisThe Fool posted:not a networking person but I would expect wifi calling to be routed differently since the initial connection would be coming from whichever isp the internet service is coming from it registers using something similar to SIP on att.net anyway, so it's going through whatever gateway they have set up to the telephone network. i didn't look into it more broadly than that but it wouldn't surprise me if that were entirely different from the way calls are routed from towers. obviously i have no idea how it actually works though
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Chris Knight posted:why a duck? autocorrect!!! 
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Beeftweeter posted:hmm strongly reminiscent of mmm. microsoft pus
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Beeftweeter posted:really it just seems like they went way overboard on the "make sure this includes people of color and/or women" slider not to let this escape the AI containment thread but I noticed a while back on a bing prompt of 'basketball card for "Bat Mann" angrily slam-dunking into the Joker' that it threw the text "ethnniclly ambigaous" [sic] beneath a black Batman. 
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Video Nasty posted:not to let this escape the AI containment thread but I noticed a while back on a bing prompt of 'basketball card for "Bat Mann" angrily slam-dunking into the Joker' that it threw the text "ethnniclly ambigaous" [sic] beneath a black Batman. lol, how odd that "angrily slam-dunking" leads to a black batman like, that just seems like the same problem presented differently
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mystes posted:yeah I think it's reasonable yeah that's where i'm at imo. like if you ask it to draw a scientist or wizard it should be randomly populated with a wide diversity of people. of course these big models turn out to be crazy biased since you just feed it biased data, so pretty much the only way is to hand-code in "yeah just make some peeps non-white and female pls". i think it would be pretty much impossible to make it correlate "historically accurate" with "just stick with the bias in the model" in a way that wouldn't gently caress up higher representation of non-whites/women/nonbinary/etc. this is kinda the direction lots of historical dramas are going. i watched bernadette banner's ranking of historical period dramas for last year and more often than not western european dramas had a much bigger variety of skin tones than would have been historically. Beeftweeter posted:i get your reasoning here, but the broader issue imo is that it would refuse to render them as white people entirely wait is it actually doing that? the examples seem to just be one-offs.
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Video Nasty posted:not to let this escape the AI containment thread but I noticed a while back on a bing prompt of 'basketball card for "Bat Mann" angrily slam-dunking into the Joker' that it threw the text "ethnniclly ambigaous" [sic] beneath a black Batman. hahahaha
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one of my favorite big real big oofs is "batman's mask only covers the top of his face so that the cops know he's white."
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also your george w carver fact of the day: his middle name wasn't actually washington. he just picked w as a middle initial since there were two george carvers in the town he was in and the mail kept getting hosed up. someone asked him "hey is the w for washington?" and he was like "yeah sure why not"
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Eeyo posted:wait is it actually doing that? the examples seem to just be one-offs. i haven't tried it myself (and couldn't now that it's been disabled anyway), but yeah that's what gizmodo was claiming last night when i first read about this https://gizmodo.com/google-anti-woke-babies-gemini-black-vikings-1851275422 of course their proof includes tim pool and infowars complaining about it on twitter  other examples seem to include white women at least, so my guess is that it's only sometimes
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Sagebrush posted:one of my favorite big real big oofs is "batman's mask only covers the top of his face so that the cops know he's white." am i hallucinating that they was a batman storyline either in the comics or one of the cartoons maybe where a black guy was claiming to be batman and even commissioner gordon was like "yeah, i can believe that"?
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Branch Nvidian posted:am i hallucinating that they was a batman storyline either in the comics or one of the cartoons maybe where a black guy was claiming to be batman and even commissioner gordon was like "yeah, i can believe that"? there's been a couple black batmen i think? not, like, bruce wayne, but still batman
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Beeftweeter posted:there's been a couple black batmen i think? not, like, bruce wayne, but still batman no, i mean if i'm remembering this correctly, bruce wayne was batman and this other guy wasn't, but was claiming to be for one reason or another, and people bought it? extremely likely i'm making this up
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Beeftweeter posted:i haven't tried it myself (and couldn't now that it's been disabled anyway), but yeah that's what gizmodo was claiming last night when i first read about this https://gizmodo.com/google-anti-woke-babies-gemini-black-vikings-1851275422 yeah idk i'm guessing those idiots are just lying. it's not even tim pool, it's tim pool retweeting some random guy's screenshots.
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