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jokes posted:Gas sucks because it's not instant/direct damage and it's not as sexually pleasing as Eagle airstrikes/cluster bombs/500kg bombs Gas, napalm and the orbital airbursts are "toss behind you as run away" strats where you giggle at the killcounter increasing while you're already at the next objective
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# ? May 27, 2024 22:40 |
The gas should be flammable so you can kill everything
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 17:17 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oD3pxbG9YYI I knew the game was gonna rule but this trailer is when I knew
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 17:17 |
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turn off the TV posted:you're expected to kill hundreds or thousands of them in a mission. and the difficulty in those missions either continuously increases until you fail or are trivial enough that you're expected to basically play the game like you're speedrunning a third person platformer. Yeah just like helldivers!
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 17:22 |
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Insert name here posted:Me: You only have to hit them twice in the face it's not so bad
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 17:23 |
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Au Revoir Shosanna posted:Happened to click on an old trailer and it looks like there's already a load more destroyer upgrades in the pipe: yeah there's a lot of stuff that's seemingly almost done or were cut during development. it wouldn't surprise me if these were the vehicle upgrades. assuming that all of the things found in the game files end up making it into the final build then they should nerf the railgun.
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 17:29 |
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It did seem like those sectioned off parts of the ship next to the computer where you get strategems from could open up to a new thing once upgraded. It's too conspicuous.
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 17:30 |
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explosivo posted:It did seem like those sectioned off parts of the ship next to the computer where you get strategems from could open up to a new thing once upgraded. It's too conspicuous. Assuming you're talking about the two spots with "under construction" signs, they do open up once you get those two areas upgraded.
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 17:33 |
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Gas, Gatling, and Walking Barrage are all lowkey extremely good once upgraded and its always funny when someone stares dumbly at a huge bug nest you just flattened with them while they were playing tag with some hunters
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 17:34 |
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bandaid.friend posted:I feel we're losing a lot for the armour value issue Late here but the Scorcher absolutely owns, imo. Bile Spewers die in 4 or 5 hits, Scout Striders can die in 2 hits from the front (splash damage kills the rider), and can blow out a Hulk weakspot in 4 or 5 hits as well. For what it's worth it also destroys Spore Towers in like 5 hits. I guess doesn't "win" against the Breaker in a vacuum, but it's pretty good.
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 17:35 |
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Darox posted:Assuming you're talking about the two spots with "under construction" signs, they do open up once you get those two areas upgraded. Myself and another L30+ Death Captain joined a L28 on their ship prior to a mission. They had nothing upgraded (so they basically spent all of their time grinding defense missions). The one Death Captain peaced out immediately. I decided to join them on their mission, but I should've followed the other DC's lead. The L28 pubbie died once, took us back to the ship, and left the game.
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 17:38 |
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Darox posted:Assuming you're talking about the two spots with "under construction" signs, they do open up once you get those two areas upgraded. Oh cool! I didn't know that.
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 17:43 |
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It's still kind of incredible to me that HD2 runs on the same deprecated Autodesk engine at its core that Fatshark seems to have so much spaghetti built around. Granted we haven't seen any significant front-end patches for HD2 yet so we don't really know how jenga-y their version is, but still
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 17:46 |
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threelemmings posted:Yeah just like helldivers! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuddKyxiVsY&t=48s yea just like it
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 17:47 |
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bandaid.friend posted:Tried out the plasma gun. While shooting little bugs I was thinking "this is like a Breaker but more dangerous to me and my team" except the Breaker fires faster and has more ammo. The explosive trait almost never helps. Like, I can shoot nursing spewers in the abdomen. But it's faster to kill them by shooting them in the face than the abdomen so I might as well be using a shotgun or railgun. Bile spewers? There's too much armour, use a railgun. It's slightly better at shooting medium size bugs at range but is absolutely worse at hive commanders. And I feel I need a support pack to feed it. Bots do have weak spots, and explosive helps immensely against those. The radiators on the back of Hulks/Tanks/Cannons/Devastators/Striders (yes, Striders do have radiators on their back of their hip joint but at that point it's just better to shoot the bot driving it) all count as weak spots and take increased damage from explosives. You can test it by shooting the weak spots with a Railgun and compare that to shooting them with an Autocannon - the Autocannon will kill it in far fewer shots thanks to its explosive property, which the Railgun lacks.
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 17:47 |
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LuiCypher posted:Myself and another L30+ Death Captain joined a L28 on their ship prior to a mission. They had nothing upgraded (so they basically spent all of their time grinding defense missions). People optimising for farming Req and XP is especially baffling because they cap out far faster than any other meta progression. Common Samples are my biggest bottleneck, followed by super samples.
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 17:50 |
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Nuebot posted:Yeah, if you can stay mobile the autocannon is spectacular for robots. Three shots for the biggest things (tanks, turrets, hulks) and two for the mid-tier things, and one shot to a strider's legs will bring it down from distance. Shoot striders on the top third of the blast shield and the explosion kills the pilot and the mech, and any other striders in front of it.
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 17:51 |
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turn off the TV posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuddKyxiVsY&t=48s Warframe is extremely cool and unique, but every movement feels like in an MMO when you run through a crowd of other players just clipping through models
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 18:04 |
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Insert name here posted:Me: You only have to hit them twice in the face it's not so bad This is absolutely me as well, but I do partially blame the scope for being incredibly big and blocking my view of everything while I'm using it.
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 18:07 |
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Yeah, as much as I want to like the precision weapons, I really only seem to do well when my approach is "volume of fire" . The AMR scope seems especially finnicky to me. Also there's no greater pleasure in the game than firing the full drum on the machine gun at 600rpm into an advancing wall of chaff.
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 18:17 |
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Fishstick posted:Gas, napalm and the orbital airbursts are "toss behind you as run away" strats where you giggle at the killcounter increasing while you're already at the next objective Gas is also fun to drop on bug breaches, kills or severely injures everything that comes out as it comes out.
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 18:18 |
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Darox posted:People optimising for farming Req and XP is especially baffling because they cap out far faster than any other meta progression. Common Samples are my biggest bottleneck, followed by super samples. Yeah it's effectively less efficient long term since you'll easily get XP and Req capped out several times over while farming for samples.
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 18:18 |
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Ess posted:Yeah, as much as I want to like the precision weapons, I really only seem to do well when my approach is "volume of fire" . The AMR scope seems especially finnicky to me. Also there's no greater pleasure in the game than firing the full drum on the machine gun at 600rpm into an advancing wall of chaff. I love fighting huge armies of chaff and whatever the immediate upgrades of those are. Large amounts of big enemies like chargers and hulks is tedious and annoying but a bunch of warriors and termite-looking things?
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 18:25 |
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I am excited at any opportunity to use the weapons in a way that also makes the Helldiver s themselves excited. Any situation where they start doing that maniacal laughter? That's my ideal.
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 18:26 |
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I’m glad they lock out higher difficulties until you complete a campaign. Keeps those easy mission grinding mouth breathers out.
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 18:26 |
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Nfcknblvbl posted:I’m glad they lock out higher difficulties until you complete a campaign. Keeps those easy mission grinding mouth breathers out. Not much, I still see plenty of lvl 4-5 people in like level 7 missions that must have been carried by a friend
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 18:29 |
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Insert name here posted:Me: You only have to hit them twice in the face it's not so bad I see a Helldiver that is still alive and a Hulk that is dead. I see no issue. Sometimes the way the sausage is made ain't pretty, but as long as you get a sausage in the end it's good in my book (Note: Helldivers are not an approved ingredient for sausage, please don't TK the rest of the team just to make one thing dead). LuiCypher fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Feb 28, 2024 |
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LuiCypher posted:From then on out, even in Suicide bot missions, I started leaving my Railgun and Backpack at home in favor of the Autocannon and Orbitals (Gas, Laser, and either the 380mm or Eagle Airstrike depending on my level of spice). And you know what? It works. I watched two dudes with Railguns and Backpacks flail around against a tank while I quietly maneuvered behind it, put three in the weak spot lickety-split, and watched it explode all without calling in any Orbitals or Eagles. You uh.. realize you can shoot tanks in the weak spots with the railgun, too? Getting behind things works with any gun, magically enough. The AC does win out on how QUICKLY it can dump 3 shots in there but saying the railgun cant do this (or just shoot them anywhere for a kill) is kind of silly.
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 18:39 |
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Darox posted:People optimising for farming Req and XP is especially baffling because they cap out far faster than any other meta progression. Common Samples are my biggest bottleneck, followed by super samples. I've just now realized that the Major Defense order wasn't personally for me, but is a meta-event for everyone. I've been doing nothing but defense orders because I thought I wasn't doing it right or something. I've done some offense runs to help break up the monotony so I'm not completely behind.
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 18:53 |
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DarkDobe posted:You uh.. realize you can shoot tanks in the weak spots with the railgun, too? They are not saying that. I don't even think they're implying that. They're saying they succeeded with an AC where two people with railguns failed and it felt good.
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 18:55 |
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DarkDobe posted:You uh.. realize you can shoot tanks in the weak spots with the railgun, too? I encountered a tank on Extreme difficulty that had armour where the heat vent on the back of the turret would normally be. That was a nasty surprise.
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 18:55 |
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DarkDobe posted:You uh.. realize you can shoot tanks in the weak spots with the railgun, too? Yes, I do know that you can, uh... shoot Tanks/Towers in the weakspot with the Railgun. I've, uh, killed a few Tanks/Towers this way myself. If you, uh... read my post, you'd see that I never said that the Railgun could not kill a Tank. The full context of the sentence is "...three shots to the weakspot on Tanks and Cannon Towers with the Autocannon and they are done, which is something the Railgun cannot do." What I'm saying here is that the Railgun can't kill a Tank/Cannon Tower in three shots to the weakspot, which is eminently true. You can test it yourself, it's a provable claim.
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 19:01 |
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Huckabee Sting posted:I've just now realized that the Major Defense order wasn't personally for me, but is a meta-event for everyone. I've been doing nothing but defense orders because I thought I wasn't doing it right or something. I've done some offense runs to help break up the monotony so I'm not completely behind. I only learned the same thing from you just now.
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 19:01 |
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Huckabee Sting posted:I've just now realized that the Major Defense order wasn't personally for me, but is a meta-event for everyone. I've been doing nothing but defense orders because I thought I wasn't doing it right or something. I've done some offense runs to help break up the monotony so I'm not completely behind. Pennsylvanian posted:I only learned the same thing from you just now.
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 19:03 |
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Darth Walrus posted:I encountered a tank on Extreme difficulty that had armour where the heat vent on the back of the turret would normally be. That was a nasty surprise. This may have been a bug, like with bot cannon turrets. That is, assuming its a bug at all... Hopefully it is. Weak spots that encourage movement/dodging are great.
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 19:05 |
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LuiCypher posted:What I'm saying here is that the Railgun can't kill a Tank/Cannon Tower in three shots to the weakspot, which is eminently true. You can test it yourself, it's a provable claim. It absolutely can, though? I have done so repeatedly? It's hard to do on the towers, since they turn towards you after the first hit - but it isn't impossible. Tanks die in 3-4 shots to the vents from a railgun. DarkDobe fucked around with this message at 19:10 on Feb 28, 2024 |
# ? Feb 28, 2024 19:08 |
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Dandywalken posted:This may have been a bug, like with bot cannon turrets. That is, assuming its a bug at all... There's a bug where a 'ghost' version of the turret stays in place while the actual turret turns elsewhere - this can lead to it looking like the weak spot is covered by armor.
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 19:09 |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAIJIWDhOuc Not sure how legit this is but it sure looks it!
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 19:11 |
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GlyphGryph posted:I am excited at any opportunity to use the weapons in a way that also makes the Helldiver s themselves excited. Any situation where they start doing that maniacal laughter? That's my ideal. I'm hoping they bring back the 75 round AR from the first game so I don't have to stop shooting just because my MG ran out of ammo.
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explosivo posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAIJIWDhOuc Ready for my beautiful metal baby to get bonked by a charger and fall down a cliff, exploding horribly.
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