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Rescue Toaster posted:In theory jail time but not in practice. Presumably some fines, but pretty insignificant compared to the fraud trial. Cohen spent a year in jail for it.
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 23:53 |
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# ? Jun 7, 2024 23:46 |
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Random Stranger posted:The supreme court was always going to grant cert. This is a legal issues that's approaching them from multiple circuits and it's a new legal question. Donnie is going to lose 9-0. They'll issue a ruling in May or June and Trump is in court arguing criminal charges at their height of the election. It's disappointing that they're not moving faster, especially when you consider how even the expedited schedule has significant consequences for the entire country whether you're pro-ending the US or anti-Trump, but this isn't something that really works in Trump's favor. thats kinda what i think is gonna happen. I do think they are gonna take it up to crush it and at least hear out trumps arguments which has been dogshit so far.i think at most thomas or alito side with him.
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 23:55 |
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Toxic Mental posted:Good god this is a pathetic hit attempt there's about 30 seconds of "hidden video" and judge barely says anything to him. lmao this is honestly pathetic.
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 23:56 |
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Hollismason posted:Cohen spent a year in jail for it. I'm not sure why I keep seeing people say it seems unlikely for just the 'falsifying business records' I guess? Cohen had other stuff going on including tax issues and lying to congress. It would be the loving king LOL of all time if Trump paying off a sex worker and then covering up the payments is what puts him behind bars. Far beyond even the Capone tax poo poo. Obviously it's important for you know, democracy, that they eventually get him on the other poo poo too. But it would be monumentally hilarious if NY gets him first on that.
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 23:58 |
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Three Olives posted:I imagine that it will be something like official acts, like you can’t be charged with like drone strikes but insurrections and robbing banks are not official acts. If I have to guess, based on the plain language of the Constitution (Article II section 4), the President is immune from prosecution while he is President. And that immunity ends when he ceases to be President, whether that's due to the natural end of his term end or removal via impeachment. The now ex-President can then be charged with any crimes committed while he held the office, because otherwise impeachment (which can only result in removal from and ban on future office) would not be able to be followed by a conviction.
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 23:59 |
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i still think it's funny that half of the US legislature threatens to shut the government down constantly like imagine a factory where half of the workers/owners want to shut the factory down or imagine a hospital where half of the doctors want to shut the hospital down or imagine a government where half of the legislators want to shut the government down lol
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# ? Feb 28, 2024 23:59 |
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Hollismason posted:And your basis for this prediction? They still haven't even set a date
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# ? Feb 29, 2024 00:00 |
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kazil posted:
So a restart in agency preparedness procedures, cool.
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# ? Feb 29, 2024 00:03 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:It's going to be 9-0. Not even diehards like Thomas or Alito would agree that a President has blanket immunity from committing crimes. There’s value in clarifying that a President is not a king. But this is like ensuring the smoke detectors have batteries in the middle of a house fire.
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# ? Feb 29, 2024 00:03 |
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jokes posted:killing humans is illegal and the ruling says a human embryo is apparently a fully-formed human. IVF cannot be performed without disposal/MURDER of many human embryos. making the prediction right now - the final bill the republican party agrees on will be that IVF is legal, but there needs to be a 3 hour prayer service for each non viable embryo discarded.
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# ? Feb 29, 2024 00:05 |
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It also doesn't take months and months. The Supreme Court could hear this case in a much shorter time, they chose not to
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# ? Feb 29, 2024 00:05 |
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Rescue Toaster posted:In theory jail time but not in practice. Presumably some fines, but pretty insignificant compared to the fraud trial. The only real significance of the NY trial is it would be an actual guilty felony charge, making him an actual capital-F Felon. The media often likes to show candidates voting on election day. Would be a real if Trump was a convicted felon by election day and ineligible to vote.
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# ? Feb 29, 2024 00:08 |
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post itt every time you lol that the papers are gonna print that Donald John "TRUMP" is poor
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# ? Feb 29, 2024 00:14 |
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Dapper_Swindler posted:It's going to be 9-0. Not even diehards like Thomas or Alito would agree that a President has blanket immunity from committing crimes. If 5 of them do make Biden King, he should act in it immediately Preferably by removing those 5 and arresting Trump
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# ? Feb 29, 2024 00:15 |
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Guys! I just remembered something!
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# ? Feb 29, 2024 00:16 |
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I don't know why there's this persistent assumption that the conservative judges give a poo poo about Trump personally. Christian nationalism, sure, Trump I don't see it. They denied all his dumb 2020 lawsuits. I never felt there was a good chance he'd be convicted before the election (although the NY case has a chance). He has to be defeated at the ballot box. Of course him shuffling between his various trials all spring and summer is probably not great for his chances.
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# ? Feb 29, 2024 00:18 |
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HappyHippo posted:I don't know why there's this persistent assumption that the conservative judges give a poo poo about Trump personally. Christian nationalism, sure, Trump I don't see it. They denied all his dumb 2020 lawsuits. if it hastens his descent into dementia, then the cases have done enough good quite frankly. Put him under as much loving stress as we can and let his brain crack like an egg, it might save us from christian fascism.
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# ? Feb 29, 2024 00:21 |
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Discount Dracula posted:Guys! I just remembered something! SOLDIER died THREE TIMES
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# ? Feb 29, 2024 00:24 |
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Jeremor posted:if it hastens his descent into dementia, then the cases have done enough good quite frankly. gently caress THAT! for the amount of time that rear end in a top hat has taken up residence in my brain, he deserves a deeper plunge in torturous insanity.
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# ? Feb 29, 2024 00:24 |
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# ? Feb 29, 2024 00:25 |
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when it's 8-1 or 9-0 against immunity there's going to be some spicy truths.
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# ? Feb 29, 2024 00:27 |
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kazil posted:Boebert a publicist wrote this she and her daydrunk hubby are out back wailing on him with a broom handle and a belt
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# ? Feb 29, 2024 00:27 |
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Jeremor posted:if it hastens his descent into dementia, then the cases have done enough good quite frankly. Put him under as much loving stress as we can and let his brain crack like an egg, it might save us from christian fascism. Can't crack oatmeal! Stress just sinks in and dissolves like a spoonful of delicious brown sugar.
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# ? Feb 29, 2024 00:28 |
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big nipples big life posted:when it's 8-1 or 9-0 against immunity there's going to be some spicy truths. STOLLEN BY A WITCH!
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# ? Feb 29, 2024 00:29 |
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Carlos Lantana posted:a publicist wrote this That's only if he got RoRed
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# ? Feb 29, 2024 00:31 |
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kazil posted:Boebert Wow I was 100% expecting her to be caterwauling about how Tyler is unjustly attacked and defamed by the liberal anarcho-bidenist mob.
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# ? Feb 29, 2024 00:33 |
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kazil posted:It also doesn't take months and months. The Supreme Court could hear this case in a much shorter time, they chose not to
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# ? Feb 29, 2024 00:34 |
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SLICK GOKU BABY posted:The media often likes to show candidates voting on election day. Would be a real if Trump was a convicted felon by election day and ineligible to vote. I'm guessing he votes in Florida, and if their law even prevents people with felonies outside Florida, I'm sure they'll pass a law before November saying you can vote if your felony conviction was from a woke lib witchhunt.
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# ? Feb 29, 2024 00:35 |
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big nipples big life posted:when it's 8-1 or 9-0 against immunity there's going to be some spicy truths. Yeah, I just don’t see them going for because his argument is just nixons in super steroids.
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# ? Feb 29, 2024 00:35 |
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All SCOTUS cases should be on the timeline of Bush v Gore
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# ? Feb 29, 2024 00:35 |
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SLICK GOKU BABY posted:The media often likes to show candidates voting on election day. Would be a real if Trump was a convicted felon by election day and ineligible to vote. Let him do it anyway, then arrest him for voter fraud that you have on video of him doing
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# ? Feb 29, 2024 00:37 |
Like from a purely self-serving view, why would the Supreme Court ever rule that someone was completely and forever beyond their ability to ever judge them?
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# ? Feb 29, 2024 00:37 |
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kazil posted:They still haven't even set a date The prosecution proposed a start date of August 5th. Even if its off by a month that still is enough time for the trial and such. I actually thought the trial date had been picked up its apparently just what the prosecutors wants.
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# ? Feb 29, 2024 00:39 |
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big nipples big life posted:when it's 8-1 or 9-0 against immunity there's going to be some spicy truths. I'm holding out hope he can at least reach a high watermark of 3 writing in dissent that his situation deserves immunity but in no other cases
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# ? Feb 29, 2024 00:41 |
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Funky See Funky Do posted:They spent over 20 years making music. Dookie is 30 years old
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# ? Feb 29, 2024 00:45 |
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Asterite34 posted:Like from a purely self-serving view, why would the Supreme Court ever rule that someone was completely and forever beyond their ability to ever judge them? They won't do that. But there's always a chance they come up with "Oh this is a special case that only we are smart enough to recognize, he's immune in this very special case because of these bullshit reasons, but you can't apply this to any other cases because we said so." They've done repeatedly before, for example Dobbs. Most likely they are just happy to delay the trial as much as possible. Roberts wants credit for doing the reasonable thing of saying he's not immune, but there's plenty of people on the court who will happily gently caress with the trials just as revenge against libs even if they don't actually care about Trump.
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# ? Feb 29, 2024 00:46 |
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Scags McDouglas posted:I'm holding out hope he can at least reach a high watermark of 3 writing in dissent that his situation deserves immunity but in no other cases I think that would work if the immunity thing wasn’t about him trying to overthrow the government. If it was some weird poo poo about foreign policy matters then maybe but with what the context is and his arguments. No.
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# ? Feb 29, 2024 00:46 |
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lol Trump is going to be convicted right around the same time the SCOTUS is going to rule he's not immune. That's gonna be quite the double whammy.
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# ? Feb 29, 2024 00:47 |
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DemihumanResources posted:Dookie is 30 years old So less than 20 years?
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# ? Jun 7, 2024 23:46 |
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Toxic Mental posted:Good god this is a pathetic hit attempt this is sad. also engoron needs to get some security asap.
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